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Title: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 28, 2007, 10:36:55 PM
Being I only get about 45min before dark at my test site it is taking lots of time. But it is close and I have the support of the Bullhead PD if anything goes wrong.

 I will be testing today out at Rotory Park at about 7pm.

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Quote from: pw383426;2759087
Ok got some GPS results from about 15 minutes ago.
These are for Jim's Squirtin Thunder boat

Any questions about motor and set up ask him, I was just watchin the RPM's vs. MPH in the passenger seat.

3000= 23.5mph
4000= 41.5 mph
5000= 67.5 mph

That was with the B- impeller in the Sanger Custom Sprint and with two people.

We may do a test every 500rpm just cause we can. The boat is responding very well to changes. We are going to do a turn test being some folks think the added rudders do absolutly nothing. We are going to put another loader in, the CP Performance Extreem Loader in just to see what it does.  We are playing with two impellers, one an MPD A and the other a MPD B-. All the info as of yet is done with the B-. There is alot of other info that will not be posted that we are learning and testing. Our Parker 300 setup will be tested in a few weeks. We still have to install our new pan and the oil cooler, as well as our new High Flow Dynamics Oil Pump. We will also be testing our HillBilly 429 just incase the the engine gives before or at Parker.

Anyone that wants to come out and watch is more than welcome.

Well the air was the great limiter. Corrected elavation was 4176'.
I was also checking my brakes out !

The B- impeller does not give the same lift as the A did, the boat runs wetter.

Here is a very short video;
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4mvng54 (http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4mvng54)

Testing 8-28-07 (http://"http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4mvng54")

Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 29, 2007, 07:25:09 AM
if thats your A-game your in trouble  >:D
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 29, 2007, 09:00:38 AM
Yesturday kind-of sucked, no #s, real bad air and hit something in the water that broke the pieto tube for the speedo. See what is nice is that I can test every day and get alittle info. How fast do you think that was Ralph, speedo only said 30mph ? The only good thing was the brakes are working well.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 29, 2007, 09:18:51 AM
i was going off the gps #'s, and yes it looks faster than the posted #'s
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 09:23:15 AM
I sure wish i would have seen this yesturday. I would have been there to watch you guys, that park is just around the corner from me. Are you gonna go back out there?


2sav
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: pw_Tony on August 29, 2007, 12:45:20 PM
We will be back out there today if everything goes right at 7pm
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 04:11:30 PM
Dam i have to go to the kids soccer meeting. What about tomorrow?



2sav
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 29, 2007, 05:16:03 PM
Test conditions right now
Altitude 550  feet 
Air Temperature 115   degrees F 
Altimeter Setting 29.70  inchesHg 
Relative Humidity  7 % 

 

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Density Altitude 4468  feet 
Virtual temperature 116.6  degrees F 
Absolute Air Pressure 29.12  inchesHg 

Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 29, 2007, 05:34:59 PM
playing the weather man by copying your local weather report from a weather site isnt going to help you win the race jim.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 29, 2007, 05:39:29 PM
playing the weather man by copying your local weather report from a weather site isnt going to help you win the race jim.

Actually if you were to look at the info posted (from a Density Altitude Calculator ) you would find a ton of usefull info for tuning a engine. And a good tune win help anyone win a race.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 29, 2007, 05:44:40 PM
if you can win by using the weather than be my guest, for me its not that serious
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 29, 2007, 05:47:03 PM
Actually if you were to look at the info posted you would find a ton of usefull info for tuning a engine. And a good tune win help anyone win a race.

youre tuning your engine in conditions that are completely different then your racing conditions....makes sense!  ;)

youre at more then twice the elevation, the tempature is 15 degrees warmer, and the its a third of the humidity of bakersfield.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 29, 2007, 05:51:23 PM
for the record...

Lake Ming - Bakersfield, CA
Elevation: ~5600
Current Tempature: 101F
Current Humidity: 22%
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 29, 2007, 05:53:00 PM
for the record...

Lake Ming - Bakersfield, CA
Elevation: ~5600
Current Tempature: 101F
Current Humidity: 22%

Bakersfield is actually 408 feet above sea level.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: beerjet on August 29, 2007, 05:56:20 PM
My GPS read 500 ft above sea level . I think .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 29, 2007, 06:03:53 PM
I stand corrected on two things:

First, I googled "lake ming elevation" because it isnt the same elevation as Bakersfield. The first result I found I took as fact (big no-no on the internet - my bad).

Second - I saw your desity altitude as the elevation.

So yes, they are close in reguards to elevation, but still very far off as far as weather conditions.

You would think you were tuning ITB's with all this number crunching.  ::)
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: pw_Tony on August 29, 2007, 06:12:44 PM
Recording different set ups with different conditions is always beneficial. I wish I had recorded all the different set ups with different weather when I went drag racing
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 29, 2007, 10:58:27 PM
Actual Test Condition:

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Bullhead AZ
Altitude  550  feet 
Air Temperature  105  degrees F 
Altimeter Setting 29.7  inchesHg 
Relative Humidity 7 % 
Density Altitude  3862 feet 
Virtual temperature 106.2  degrees F 
Absolute Air Pressure 29.12  inchesHg 


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Lake Ming Bakersfield CA
Altitude 408  feet 
Air Temperature 98  degrees F 
Altimeter Setting 29.96  inchesHg 
Relative Humidity 28  %
Density Altitude 3133  feet 
Virtual temperature 101.7  degrees F 
Absolute Air Pressure 29.53  inchesHg 



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Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: lilrick on August 30, 2007, 11:47:58 AM
Well, practice makes perfect. It must be nice to be able to practice every day! Wish I could practice , but I'm not moving to BHC!!  Jim, you shouldn't have any excuses at THIS race!!! You should be perfectly tuned and ready to kick all of our butts.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: UNDONE on August 30, 2007, 11:59:59 AM
When is the race? Looks like you're moving along pretty good there in the pictures.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: MADSKILLZ on August 30, 2007, 12:02:03 PM
OCTOBER 6TH AND 7TH
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Warlock on August 30, 2007, 12:09:05 PM
Well, practice makes perfect. It must be nice to be able to practice every day! Wish I could practice , but I'm not moving to BHC!!  Jim, you shouldn't have any excuses at THIS race!!! You should be perfectly tuned and ready to kick all of our butts.
GO JIM GO!!!! Kick their butts!!! ::)
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: 2savage4you on August 30, 2007, 12:28:10 PM
Jim i  passed you at the college yesturday on your way down to the river. Are you going to run again today ? let me know, Cause the wife and i will be there  ;D



2sav
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 30, 2007, 12:43:56 PM
Well, practice makes perfect. It must be nice to be able to practice every day! Wish I could practice , but I'm not moving to BHC!!  Jim, you shouldn't have any excuses at THIS race!!! You should be perfectly tuned and ready to kick all of our butts.

Well Rick it is more like perfect practice makes perfect, but oh well we should be OK for the race with the B set-up if it is needed. We still have a bit more to test. Then we will move on to the A set-up. And that should get real nice. ;D
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 30, 2007, 12:45:27 PM
Jim i  passed you at the college yesturday on your way down to the river. Are you going to run again today ? let me know, Cause the wife and i will be there  ;D

2sav

Yes I have a few things to test today. We should be there around 6:45pm !
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: lilrick on August 30, 2007, 12:56:45 PM
dam, my boat doesn't even have a motor in it!! Oh well there aren't as many parts in these lil' ol jetboats compared to those v-drives!
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 30, 2007, 09:45:41 PM
This guy just would not leave me alone and kind of interfered with testing. I was just trying to warm the engine up before any passes.
Warming up (http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=61wl8pi)
So I figured we could chop up the water a bit to make it more like actual race conditions.
Choppin it up (http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4umo674)
Thanks for the advice to drop the Trail down guys, dropped it 2*, wow what a difference.
Lower Tail (http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4xmp2xk)
This guy had a bad ass BBC in a Haskel/Shoester/Tahiti 19'er.
Runnin the chop (http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=5ybv8m1)
Now this was a Bad Ass Laveycraft Tunnel with a Factory special build racing motor 2.5L Merc making 305+HP.
 305+hp Merc (http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=6b0rrrl)
Oh yah Rick the oil on the bottom of the boat came out of the oil drain plug Hole.

Thank you Tony for all your help ! 8)
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: pw_Tony on August 30, 2007, 10:11:33 PM
Oh No! The links dont work for me!  >:(
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 30, 2007, 10:23:42 PM
They work here;
http://www.hotboat.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2767421#post2767421
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: 2savage4you on August 31, 2007, 03:25:09 AM

Now this was a Bad Ass Laveycraft Tunnel with a Factory special build racing motor 2.5L Merc making 305+HP.















Looked more like a row boat  after you passed it ;D


Don't get mad guy's

2sav
 
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: 2savage4you on August 31, 2007, 06:34:51 PM
Hey Jim,

 Was that you out there again tonight?  I was scraping glue off the project boat and thought i heard something fast out there ;D

 Sent a  PM dont know if you got it or not. Sorry we bailed on you last night the wife had a appointment at eight pm.  Went to Autozone and like you said they had it, so i picked up the glass and a gallon of resin and got some new wood too.

 Thanks.

2sav
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 10, 2007, 06:41:07 PM
Well I think we need to test one more time before tear down. I just found a few things not in our data. And I really wana try one more thing for shits and giggles. 8)
But we need to go to Vegas tomarrow if possible. :o
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Toes on the Nose on September 10, 2007, 07:13:02 PM
Looks lke you're havin fun!!!
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: HDriderTH on September 10, 2007, 07:20:16 PM
You gonna stop by when yer in town Jim?
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 10, 2007, 08:31:49 PM
We will and we also have to stop by JBWRodeos place for paint work on my helmet for the next few races.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 10, 2007, 08:58:41 PM
That weekend is the same as the Hot Rod Reunion, if y'all are looking for a place to have a beer or ten Sat night, a good friend of mine has a party every year, hotrods, kustoms, lots of beer, it's a great time, lemme know if anyone wants to go.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 10, 2007, 09:41:22 PM
That weekend is the same as the Hot Rod Reunion, if y'all are looking for a place to have a beer or ten Sat night, a good friend of mine has a party every year, hotrods, kustoms, lots of beer, it's a great time, lemme know if anyone wants to go.

What the Hell ? ???
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 10, 2007, 10:08:44 PM
That weekend is the same as the Hot Rod Reunion, if y'all are looking for a place to have a beer or ten Sat night, a good friend of mine has a party every year, hotrods, kustoms, lots of beer, it's a great time, lemme know if anyone wants to go.

Actually, that is the following weekend on the 12th-14th:

http://www.famosoraceway.com/

The race at Ming is the 6th-7th

 ;)
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 10, 2007, 10:23:11 PM
Kick ASS! It's wierd though, they always, well seems like always, have the HRR the first w/e in Oct. Oh well now I don't have to choose! Anybody up for a beer b q  get together Sat night of the Ming race?
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: akakiller on September 11, 2007, 12:53:51 PM
only if you plan on doing the grillin!!

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Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: 2savage4you on September 11, 2007, 01:13:36 PM
only if you plan on doing the grillin!!

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J



Looks like you stopped off at am pm for a burger. Cause that dont look like any meat i ever ate. Must be soy :o


2sav
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: CHROMEY on September 11, 2007, 01:27:25 PM
do you guys stay the night @ the lake or ya'll get a room or something?
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 11, 2007, 02:31:02 PM
Kick ASS! It's wierd though, they always, well seems like always, have the HRR the first w/e in Oct. Oh well now I don't have to choose! Anybody up for a beer b q  get together Sat night of the Ming race?
i'm good for the bbq as long as i dont have to cook this time.
do you guys stay the night @ the lake or ya'll get a room or something?

motorhome
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: CHROMEY on September 11, 2007, 04:15:22 PM
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motorhome
im staying w/ you then...
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 11, 2007, 04:53:49 PM


Looks like you stopped off at am pm for a burger. Cause that dont look like any meat i ever ate. Must be soy :o


2sav

Them's pure Angus steak burgers, Harris Ranch to be exact, I'll do the grillin'! I'm gonna assume y'all are staying @ the campground out by Ming?
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 11, 2007, 07:03:53 PM
hey sanger boy!!! you better get back to testing cause if you aint ready this hornet is gunna sting your ass.
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Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: CHROMEY on September 12, 2007, 10:12:08 AM
wow great pic ralph......
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: 2savage4you on September 12, 2007, 10:19:07 AM
hey sanger boy!!! you better get back to testing cause if you aint ready this hornet is gunna sting your ass.
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Now thats funny ;D



2sav
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: UNDONE on September 12, 2007, 11:13:15 AM
See you guys up there.
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 12, 2007, 11:26:29 AM
Don't get your Pink Panties in a buch there Ralph.
You got to catch me to sting me  :o

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Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 12, 2007, 11:34:18 AM
now either your doing about 150mph or that camera sucks
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Marcsrollin on September 12, 2007, 11:37:05 AM
now either your doing about 150mph or that camera sucks

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: 2savage4you on September 12, 2007, 11:40:10 AM
now either your doing about 150mph or that camera sucks





Well that camera dont Suck ;D


2sav
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 12, 2007, 11:44:59 AM
so its safe to say 150mph or so? :o
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on September 12, 2007, 11:45:56 AM
Ralph you suck www.pinkwore.net, I am in ;)
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 12, 2007, 11:51:59 AM
Ralph you suck www.pinkwore.net, I am in ;)
good now we have 2 confirmed
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 17, 2007, 06:58:50 PM
here is some more video for ya ;)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6muuqvAWe3Y
Title: Re: Testing for Bakersfield
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 29, 2007, 03:56:07 PM
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