SoCal Jet Boats
Classifieds => Boats For Sale => Topic started by: Drew on January 07, 2010, 07:00:33 PM
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Less Motor. Interior is like new. Berkley pump. Hydraulic place diverter. New rubber in the rub rail, now installed, not shown in pics. Bell housing and Basset headers included. Needs steering cable. Hensly Trailer. $7500 (714) 240-7001
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Is this priced fair guys?
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I'll give you $50.00 for it (CASH) :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Is this priced fair guys?
about 4,500 too much :-\
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about 4,500 too much :-\
If not more...Sorry :-\
GT
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If not more...Sorry :-\
GT
i was trying to be nice :-X
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i was trying to be nice :-X
I know, I was just backing you up, didn't want to leave you hangin'.
FWIW, an brand new 20' hull with interior can be had for around $10-15K without a drive train...Sooooo.. :sly:
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OUCH!
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SOLD. You guys might want to re-calibrate your estimates.
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SOLD. You guys might want to re-calibrate your estimates.
What did you end up getting out of her???
I saw a 1994 21' Eliminator open bow this morning in Monterey with a hurt (real hurt) 502 BBC, $3100 is all he could get.....
You could have eaten off this thing... :screwy:
GT
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What did you end up getting out of her???
I saw a 1994 21' Eliminator open bow this morning in Monterey with a hurt (real hurt) 502 BBC, $3100 is all he could get.....
You could have eaten off this thing... :screwy:
GT
$6500 and you could have eaten off this boat also.
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$6500 and you could have eaten off this boat also.
You did more than a little excellent, I meant no offense in my post earlier, IMHO you sold that boat for what it was worth running....
You are one hell of a salesman :thumbup:
GT
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You did more than a little excellent, I meant no offense in my post earlier, IMHO you sold that boat for what it was worth running....
You are one hell of a salesman :thumbup:
GT
I have seen boats of this caliber sell for 12000 in good running condition. I dont think 6500 was a stretch at all , he problaby could have gotten alittle more if would of held out a couple of months.
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I have seen boats of this caliber sell for 12000 in good running condition. I dont think 6500 was a stretch at all , he problaby could have gotten alittle more if would of held out a couple of months.
No motor and needs a steering cable, I'm not being an ass, I am just saying I could have bought 10 boats like this in the last 6 months for under $4K, it was making me wonder why I am going to put $5K in my 20.5 Elite. :banghead:
Carrera is out of buisness and there is a 20.5 Elite for sale with a Procharged 502 in pretty good shape, the dude said he would take $10.5K three weeks ago....
I think he did very very well....Drew's boat needed $6K worth of help, easy...That's all I'm saying...Don't be hatin'... :D
FWIW I have $1390 (not a typo) in my Carrera thus far, and it will almost run....(but I ran into a stroke of luck like three times). :thumbup::thumbup:
GT
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He could have picked up a runnung motor for 2500 and a steering cable for 120. How is that 6k worth of work?
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He could have picked up a runnung motor for 2500 and a steering cable for 120. How is that 6k worth of work?
Show me a running 454 Carb to pan that has everything but a set of headers for a jetboat for $2500 that will live more than an hour in a jet....
I have been in the marine trades for 20 years and I will say that is a tall order...A 454 (automotive) crate motor with no bells or whistles will run you over $4K....No ignition, no carb, no intake....
It cost me $3K (to build) the 5.7 Vortec in my Z71 pick up..
GT
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Just for S&G, The best deal I could find locally...Still would have to spend a bunch to make it run, but it would run badass....
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/1567506811.html
GT
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I don't know where you are buying your parts from , but there is always good running 454's on pb or craigslist for 2500 that came out of boats. Were not talking a race motor or a new GM crate motor. He has the bell housing and the headers so all he needs is a front mount and a running motor. I don't see 6K at all maybe 3K at the most.
And as far as the maker being out of business , that has nothing to due with what the boats worth! 3/4 of the boats on this site the makers are out of business.
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That's right , you are in the business , so you must be quoting shop prices! ;D
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I don't know where you are buying your parts from , but there is always good running 454's on pb or craigslist for 2500 that came out of boats. Were not talking a race motor or a new GM crate motor. He has the bell housing and the headers so all he needs is a front mount and a running motor. I don't see 6K at all maybe 3K at the most.
And as far as the maker being out of business , that has nothing to due with what the boats worth! 3/4 of the boats on this site the makers are out of business.
Are you trying to be argumentative?
I am not, I am just saying, in this current climate, being winter, and being that everyone ant their brother is giving shit away, he did awesome...
I have a completely restored 19' Southwind jet (different caliber of boat I know) with a full blown JG fresh everything full droop ride plate, rail kit, full stringer, new paint, new seats, new gauges, gear drive (quiet) restored trailer with new wheels and tires, completely rewired boat and trailer, new rub rail and a whole bunch more I am sure, and I couldn't get anyone over $3500, hell we have almost $6K in it....That is all I am saying, I have been watching the market really close for the last 11 months and it has gone nowhere..fast.
I helped sell a friends 1991 Eliminator 20' closed deck jet with a stainless impellered Dominater, just like that one but purples and grey's with a 454 Marine power with 60 hours on it to a dude in Redding (boat was in Gilroy) for just over $9 grand, and they guy tried to get him even lower when he came to pick it up, this boat could have won a show and shine award with a weekend and some polish, we tried to sell it for 3 months, the phone rang three times, the dude in Redding was the third call.....
The comment about the company being tit's up was just referring to the last five years being really hard on the industry, that's all...
I got out of the boat selling repairing business because I was really tired of working for $1.50 an hour, after my accident, I had some time to think about what I wanted to be when I grew up....A broke mechanic was not it...
I am not trying to be hurtful or vindictive, just honest, the boating world is hurting right now and don't expect too much...
For the record, he did not get $8500, he got $6500, that 24% less....That's huge IMHO, I was thinking in the $5K area would have been really good....
If I could sell my two boats right now, I could keep my truck, I don't think there is any way in hell I could get 76% of what they should be worth....Much less what I have in them...That's all I was trying to convey...
GT
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That's right , you are in the business , so you must be quoting shop prices! ;D
LOL, No, but not a bad idea >:D
BTW, don't forget the boat needed a gunwale molding repair and a trailer redo :sly:
Look closely at the pictures, that is where I was coming from....
Sheez :-\
GT
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I did not realize the price had been edited. I saw he was asking 7500. When ralph said the boat was priced 4500 too high and you agreed , i thought you guys were saying the boat was only worth 3500. I still thnk that boat is worth 7500 easy.
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I did not realize the price had been edited. I saw he was asking 7500. When ralph said the boat was priced 4500 too high and you agreed , i thought you guys were saying the boat was only worth 3500. I still thnk that boat is worth 7500 easy.
Wanna buy a boat???? >:D
Never said anything about worth, I said what I thought he could get, big difference my friend....
It is worth IMHO in a better economic climate over $8 k...Just not today... :sly:
GT
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Well guys you know what they say....There's a sucker born every minute. Congrats Drew on selling your boat. You did good!
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He could have picked up a runnung motor for 2500 and a steering cable for 120. How is that 6k worth of work?
Just because I am bored off my ass...Lets break it down....
Engine (long block) being really really gentle $3500
Intake, carb., fuel pump, and misc. odds and ends $1200
Gunwale molding repair (not replace mind you) $180
Trailer tires, brake service and basic clean up $600
Steering cable replacement $120
Oil filters, fuel filters, oil and tune up parts $200
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$5800...
This would require some bargain shopping...You now have $12,300 in a boat you say should be worth $12K...But you have a lot of work in it.... :screwy:
This is if a shop did not do the work, so figure a case of beer (or two) and some Pizza for your buds.... $80 :thumbup:
He did well, trust me on this. :thumbup:
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Like I said before , I have no idea where you buy your parts at!!!!!! You are talking shop pricing as far as I am concerned!
Maybe parts are more expensive where you live!
The trailer looks fine to me , so do the tires!
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Like I said before , I have no idea where you buy your parts at!!!!!! You are talking shop pricing as far as I am concerned!
Maybe parts are more expensive where you live!
The trailer looks fine to me , so do the tires!
I bet I'm within $200 on all of it. ;)
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These tires look original to me, making them at least 19 years old....I would not trust the delaminating looking tread at all...They are at least cupped from running low on pressure making them unsafe...
Help me out here, what are some price corrections you would say I need to make?
I am building two boats right now, these amounts are what I would expect to pay...
GT
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Gt....long block for 3,500??? let me know where to buy them,,,why waste my own time building them..The parts I use almost cost just that...Geez :sly: not even counting machining and assy :screwy:
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Gt....long block for 3,500??? let me know where to buy them,,,why waste my own time building them..The parts I use almost cost just that...Geez :sly: not even counting machining and assy :screwy:
LOL,, see my disclaimer, I said "really really gentle" ;)
I have over $3500 in my short block before gaskets and sheet metal...Not to even mention heads..
I am really not trying to sound like a dick, but holy shit....
Anytime somebody thinks they can just buy an eBay or Craigslist motor, drop it in by spending $50 on parts at checkers and have a reliable toy, all I have to say is "Good luck with that"....
I am a realist, I like to assume the worst and be pleasantly surprised when it turns out easier than I planned...
My dad and I have built about ten boats together, all I gotta say is, there is always an ass kicking surprise waiting to come kick you in the junk when least expected...
If a regular Joe can get that boat on the water for at or under $2500 he is a better man than me.....There is no way.
In 1997, I bought a 20.5 River Cruiser from Harry Christensen at Advantage complete boat less drive train (cut for a Dominator) and rigged it at my shop and bought a trailer from my buds at Sport Boats, I payed $11,200 for the boat, I payed $1800(+/-) for the trailer and built a Brodix headed 468 Chevy with all good parts, I sold that boat as brand new for $28,000 to the first guy that saw it....I made almost nothing on it.....but it did have a top speed of just a tick over 80 with three big dudes in it.... :thumbup:
All I am trying to say is, it isn't all cake and ice cream.....That Carrera Eclipse is not that that cherry IMHO....Nice boat, but not a "10"...Solid "7" maybe... :-\
GT
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When I bought my boat I considered it a solid 8 and budgeted about $5000 to redo it and the trailer. I have already spent that and figure another 3.000 before Im done and my engine build is very mild using existing block and heads. I think GT is probably light with his estimate by the time you find all the unexpected stuff
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Yaa he is being conservative in my opinion. Ya get whatcha pay for . Sooner or later people will figure it out :)
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Ok....Been dwelling on this all day..PLEASE!!!!!
If anyone knows where I can purchase a Marine "BB Longblock " for 2,500/$...let me know.(With specs)
I figure if I sell 1 every day marked up $500.==$15k A MONTH WITH ME DOING NO LABOR. KEEP ME POSTED :-*
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Ok....Been dwelling on this all day..PLEASE!!!!!
If anyone knows where I can purchase a Marine "BB Longblock " for 2,500/$...let me know.(With specs)
I figure if I sell 1 every day marked up $500.==$15k A MONTH WITH ME DOING NO LABOR. KEEP ME POSTED :-*
I will sell you this motor for $3500. Only has five seasons on it.
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I will sell you this motor for $3500. Only has five seasons on it.
Thank you for helping my point!!!!
Or you could buy a turn key running motor off river dad or mouzer for around the ssame price or less!
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I will sell you this motor for $3500. Only has five seasons on it.
Does it come complete, Scoop to pan?
Fuel system included....
I guess what I am trying to say is "Turn key in your old boat", Because if that is the case, I would have fixed the steering cable and had it detailed and asked the $12K that Marcsrollin was talking about earlier... :screwy:
Thank you for helping my point!!!!
Or you could buy a turn key running motor off river dad or mouzer for around the ssame price or less!
Turn key means something different to you than it does to me....I am the biggest scrounger in the universe when it comes to parts (ask Proppy)...
GT
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Does it come complete, Scoop to pan?
Fuel system included....
I guess what I am trying to say is "Turn key in your old boat", Because if that is the case, I would have fixed the steering cable and had it detailed and asked the $12K that Marcsrollin was talking about earlier... :screwy:
Turn key means something different to you than it does to me....I am the biggest scrounger in the universe when it comes to parts (ask Proppy)...
GT
Yes it comes complete. Scoop to pan.
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Thank you for helping my point!!!!
Or you could buy a turn key running motor off river dad or mouzer for around the ssame price or less!
Then hook me up ! Where are the spec sheet hot rod...gotta have that....Havent we been on this page before.
I need SPECS and CLEARANCES before I can sell anyone elses stuff :banghead:
POST THEM please ::)
i'm not being a dork just realistic Sir ;)
The above spec sheet is not complete IMHO.
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Then hook me up ! Where are the spec sheet hot rod...gotta have that....Havent we been on this page before.
I need SPECS and CLEARANCES before I can sell anyone elses stuff :banghead:
POST THEM please ::)
i'm not being a dork just realistic Sir ;)
See above Hot Rod. Post #34
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Yes it comes complete. Scoop to pan.
Soooooo, Why did you split them up?
I will never figure this one out.... :screwy:
I give up. :banghead:
GT
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Soooooo, Why did you split them up?
I will never figure this one out.... :screwy:
I give up. :banghead:
GT
To lazy to install steering cable and clean fuel system.
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To lazy to install steering cable and clean fuel system.
OIC.... ;D Your honesty is refreshing....
Sooo Marcsrollin, add that to the total, clean out fuel tanks and replacing the fuel hoses (should be good for another $80-$100) :sly:
GT
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I guess what I am trying to say is "Turn key in your old boat", Because if that is the case, I would have fixed the steering cable and had it detailed and asked the $12K that Marcsrollin was talking about earlier... :screwy:
GT
Are you sayin the motor is worth $8500
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Are you sayin the motor is worth $8500
No, I am saying a complete running boat that someone could go boating with is worth more than a engineless hull that needs a bunch of work and a running engine no one can test fire...Besides, you originally wanted $8500 for the boat, right?
A complete Boat is always worth more together than separate...I never understood why so many boats get sold sans motor, makes no sense to me...
I do however think your big block is worth more than $3500, but I didn't say it out loud...(sorry Dave)...
GT
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No, I am saying a complete running boat that someone could go boating with is worth more than a engineless hull that needs a bunch of work and a running engine no one can test fire...Besides, you originally wanted $8500 for the boat, right?
A complete Boat is always worth more together than separate...I never understood why so many boats get sold sans motor, makes no sense to me...
I do however think your big block is worth more than $3500, but I didn't say it out loud...(sorry Dave)...
GT
Of coarse I agree it would have made more since to sell them together. But like I said, we got lazy. If i can get 3500 for the motor, I will be at what was our bottom line for the complete package. 10G. Did I mention winter sux.
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yup, its winter time ::)
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http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/boa/1579803951.html
Here you go , motor and mounts complete! Talk him down a little and bam! $2500 motor!
And spare parts! ;D
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There is always a way to do it cheap..... Doesn't mean it's the best and it is a gamble. I've built two boats in recent years and decided to go with professional built engines from a very respecable shop. Spent a ton on both 468's. Both of them let go within a year due to parts failure that were not the shops fault. Then again, I've pulled existing engines from boats that ran perfect for 6+ seasons for less than a 1000 bucks...... You never know what can happen...
For what it's worth, I sold two complete 454's, carb to pan, including mounts and very clean Bassett headers for 2500 in the last month. Both engines leaked down well and ran great with great oil pressure, but you never know......
I think Drew's boat had alot of potential if somebody had a mill already, it was just going to take the right buyer, and wala......
There's an ass for every seat!!!!!
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I agree with what EngineDoc is saying, when you buy a used mill, you have NO idea what you are getting. Doesn't mean it's junk, just nothing that can be verified. I've had good luck with em, but who knows.... by the way, is that 94 Elim still available???? I have a complete BBC sitting in the garage looking for a place to land.......
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by the way, is that 94 Elim still available???? I have a complete BBC sitting in the garage looking for a place to land.......
I don't know which eliminator you're speaking of, but this is a damn good deal, make a nice home for your BBC
http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/boa/1578821723.html (http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/boa/1578821723.html)
I can go look at it for you if you'd like
let me know
Skip
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That is a nice boat, what make is it ???
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That is a nice boat, what make is it ???
Eliminator I think it's a 78 Bubbledeck
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That is a good looking boat. Thanks for the offer Skip! I was talking about the boat that I think GT mentioned that was for 3k or something with a blown up motor. I just might call on this one though.... If it works out I may hit ya up Skip.. RD