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Crankcase evac set up
« on: November 21, 2016, 07:35:50 PM »
Hey guys going put lines for valve covers to headers ,was wondering if I need to run the check valves ?
Running them dry if that helps.



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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2016, 07:40:11 PM »
Was thinking this for headers


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2016, 07:44:56 PM »
You need gulp valves. Yes.
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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2016, 07:47:50 PM »
Ok GT thank u ...Reversion issues?


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2016, 08:17:20 PM »
Will these work?


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2016, 09:49:19 PM »
What u guys think?


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2016, 03:10:15 PM »
My understanding is that the valve is mainly to prevent the flame from a header backfire from possibly igniting the oil vapors in the valve covers and crankcase, not so much reversion.
The valve you have shown has -8 fittings, while the evac kit appears to have at least-10, although I can't see it called out. It's best to not restrict the line by reducing, so if the valve comes in a size to match the kit, that would be best. Of course the line and fittings down to the valve covers should match that size also.
It would be really clean if the valves came with 1/2 female pipe x -10, then you could eliminate that big AN fitting in the kit.
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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2016, 08:25:03 AM »

My understanding is that the valve is mainly to prevent the flame from a header backfire from possibly igniting the oil vapors in the valve covers and crankcase, not so much reversion.
The valve you have shown has -8 fittings, while the evac kit appears to have at least-10, although I can't see it called out. It's best to not restrict the line by reducing, so if the valve comes in a size to match the kit, that would be best. Of course the line and fittings down to the valve covers should match that size also.
It would be really clean if the valves came with 1/2 female pipe x -10, then you could eliminate that big AN fitting in the kit.
Thanks ... Every check valve I see u have to run a hose clamp. I want to use a an fitting


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2016, 08:48:08 AM »
Thanks ... Every check valve I see u have to run a hose clamp. I want to use a an fitting


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2016, 09:20:21 AM »

Why?
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There's no hose clamps going on my boat. Lol I just have it out for them .


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2016, 10:00:04 AM »
Been running for years without a check valve.



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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2016, 10:17:35 AM »

Been running for years without a check valve.



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Hey Jerry thanks bud ...
You gonna take me for a ride next summer in your boat 😬


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2016, 10:22:37 AM »
Hey Jerry thanks bud ...
You gonna take me for a ride next summer in your boat 😬


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2016, 10:28:55 AM »
Hey jerry Are u still running breathers?



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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2016, 10:32:10 AM »
Hey jerry Are u still running breathers?



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No, just the evac system

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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2016, 12:23:52 PM »
I've been buried in a project lately and haven't had much time to comment.

The check valves do two things. 


First,  they prevent a full blown engine fire if the engine blows up. The flash oil can ignite creating pressure in the crankcase and literally ignite the hot oil in the engine.


Second,  they create way more vacuum pull at low rpm, especially with crazy duration camshafts. At wide open throttle they may work equally well,  but at anything under that,  the check valves will out perform those without.

I wouldn't do it without gulp valves,  you can always weld a stainless male flare fitting to the gulp if you want to be OCD about hose clamps. Lol

Just be mindful that flare and AN have a different flare face angle. (30° vs 45°).

GT
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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2016, 09:11:30 AM »
Actually AN is 37*


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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2016, 09:22:20 AM »
Actually AN is 37*


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You are correct. Wrote that in a hurry,  was frying a turkey, glazing a ham and rebuilding a carburetor.

Thank you for correcting.
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Re: Crankcase evac set up
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2016, 08:33:32 PM »

You are correct. Wrote that in a hurry,  was frying a turkey, glazing a ham and rebuilding a carburetor.

Thank you for correcting.
That's awesome lol gotta love the holidays! 🍻


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