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SLCKREG

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Battery deep cycle or regular?
« on: January 13, 2009, 02:02:29 PM »
Yeah I know kind of a lame question....I've always bought deep cycle batteries for my boat(my season is about 6 months )  seems like a few months back over on perf. boats, a few guys were saying not to use the deepcycle ones?? As long as we're talking batteries I've also heard to stay away from the ones with high cranking amps, because they don't last as long. Just curious what everyones thoughts were, my battery is toast and I'm trying to figure out what's best. If your an optima fan, I wouldn't mind hearing it....but I don't see me going there. I've heard/seen too many bad stories there. TIA
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 02:12:10 PM »
ran an optima red top in forkedup, had it for a year with no problems, took it out and put it on the shelf for a year and a half while rebuilding the boat, charged it up and is still working great, first year of its life I was not running an alternator either, just ran it and recharged it all the time, new boat has 2 interstate deep cycles in it, seem to be working great (knock on wood), boat sits for a couple weeks bring it home, play the stereo while cleaning it and still fires right up.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 04:27:32 PM »
I have run a deep cycle since I have had my boat. Never a problem. 3 or 4  years now with the same one. The one thing I do tho is once a month or so I put the trickle charger on it, and I think thats a big reason I havent had any problems   knock on wood ;D   just my .02
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2009, 06:13:36 PM »
1) Deep cycle batteries generally are not designed for cranking (not good for high compression applications).

2) Deep cycle batteries will have a higher amp hour rating (takes longer to run down) than a start type battery.

3) A cranking battery will have a higher cold cranking amps rating but a lower amp hour rating.

4) A cranking battery will not survive being run down repeatedly, where a deep cycle will have many "life cycles".

5) The only reason I would run a deep cycle type battery in a jet/v-drive type boat would be if you didn't run an alternator and did recharge after every run.
 
6) I would recommend getting a good quality (high cranking amps & good warranty) cranking battery for all other jet/v-drive type boats.

7) If you have a day cruiser with a large stereo, I would have a start battery seperate from and use deep cycles to run the stereo, and use a Perco switch so you could use the deep cycles to jump the start battery if necessary. 

Class dismissed  ;D
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2009, 06:17:22 PM »
optima red top
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SLCKREG

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 06:25:52 PM »
Thanks Chief, that's some good info.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 06:27:15 PM »
1) Deep cycle batteries generally are not designed for cranking (not good for high compression applications).

2) Deep cycle batteries will have a higher amp hour rating (takes longer to run down) than a start type battery.

3) A cranking battery will have a higher cold cranking amps rating but a lower amp hour rating.

4) A cranking battery will not survive being run down repeatedly, where a deep cycle will have many "life cycles".

5) The only reason I would run a deep cycle type battery in a jet/v-drive type boat would be if you didn't run an alternator and did recharge after every run.
 
6) I would recommend getting a good quality (high cranking amps & good warranty) cranking battery for all other jet/v-drive type boats.

7) If you have a day cruiser with a large stereo, I would have a start battery seperate from and use deep cycles to run the stereo, and use a Perco switch so you could use the deep cycles to jump the start battery if necessary. 

Class dismissed  ;D

X2, What actually determins the life length of a battery (lead acid) is the amount of space in the bottom of the battery for sediment, when a battery sits idle (especially under 12.5 volts) they start to degrade and sulfide or oxidize the plates, this drops off over time and fills the bottom cavity of the battery and poof, they short a cell or two...

The best method is to keep it charged up (those little maintenance chargers are the bomb for this), you want to keep the voltage above 12.5 volts, some of the new "Smart Chargers" are great for prolonging the life of a battery, they are designed with battery lif in mind.

Optimas are OK, I actually work for the company that owns them, I have a couple, perfect for cranking for a short period of time, suck at everything else, they have a rapid discharge capability superior to lead acid, but not a lot of reserve, red top or yellow top work killer in a boat, but very important to keep it charged and charge gently...

One of the batteries in my motorhome is 7 years old, I keep it on a solor charger with a solid state controller, works fine, just have not needed to replace it, it should have puked two or three years ago. :screwy:


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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 06:33:10 PM »
I read an article in Consumer Reports and believe it or not they said that the Autozone Gold Tops were their best buy.  I have been buying them since and not a single problem.  I just bought one of their Blue Tops (Marine) batteries and am giving it a try.  The best part is that there seems to be an Autozone with any 10 mile radius.

Joe
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2009, 06:38:44 PM »
Ive got a 6 year old optima thats still running strong.  Well worth the money.  Its a red top btw.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2009, 07:28:07 PM »
1) Deep cycle batteries generally are not designed for cranking (not good for high compression applications).

2) Deep cycle batteries will have a higher amp hour rating (takes longer to run down) than a start type battery.

3) A cranking battery will have a higher cold cranking amps rating but a lower amp hour rating.

4) A cranking battery will not survive being run down repeatedly, where a deep cycle will have many "life cycles".

5) The only reason I would run a deep cycle type battery in a jet/v-drive type boat would be if you didn't run an alternator and did recharge after every run.
 
6) I would recommend getting a good quality (high cranking amps & good warranty) cranking battery for all other jet/v-drive type boats.

7) If you have a day cruiser with a large stereo, I would have a start battery seperate from and use deep cycles to run the stereo, and use a Perco switch so you could use the deep cycles to jump the start battery if necessary. 

Class dismissed  ;D

VERY GOOD INFO Teach ! Thanks !
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2009, 02:02:14 PM »
Im going to buy my new battery tomorrow...For my boat ;D  Optimas are out of the question.........

I was thinking  , the Autozone as posted above or the good ole fashioned Walmart battery.... i have had good luck with wally world batterys..

Any input on this ???  Looking for a good battery on a jet boaters wallet ;D
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 02:10:45 PM »
Steve,
I always purchased my batteries at Costco. Never a problem and would exchange them out about every year while still under warrenty. Gotta love Cosco warrenties ;D
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 02:26:52 PM »
Steve,
I always purchased my batteries at Costco. Never a problem and would exchange them out about every year while still under warrenty. Gotta love Cosco warrenties ;D

 Costco...........Bob , im in Bullhead :screwy:  Walmart has a good warranty also.. One year free replacement after that its pro rated.
 
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 03:49:36 PM »
Costco...........Bob , im in Bullhead :screwy:  Walmart has a good warranty also.. One year free replacement after that its pro rated.
 


No Costco in Bullhead? Huh....Just dont forget what happened to Skip with his Walmart battery :o Hate to see you get your face acid washed before you got the boat wet. When is this going to happen again? I know youre close. Keep it up.
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the jet boat never did this to you bob ::)
Can I get next in line behind The Beav

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2009, 04:04:11 PM »
No Costco in Bullhead? Huh....Just dont forget what happened to Skip with his Walmart battery :o Hate to see you get your face acid washed before you got the boat wet. When is this going to happen again? I know youre close. Keep it up.

Well......... I was just told that Tom is out of top mount starters so looks like im giving up mine so i can get the Eliminator out of my hair :banghead: and i was also told my order from CP performance is on hold due to no inventory on what i ordered :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

So in short.........not for awhile :'(
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SLCKREG

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2009, 05:49:48 PM »
I was told once that you don't want the one with the super high cranking amps, because to make them like that they increase the amount of lead that's exposed to the acid, in turn that makes em have less of a life, and also makes them more fragile. ??? :screwy:
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2009, 08:01:40 PM »
I've alway had good luck with Delco batteries.  Most Delco automotive batteries have a minimum 2 year free replacement plus the pro-rate.
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The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2009, 08:26:32 PM »
I've alway had good luck with Delco batteries.  Most Delco automotive batteries have a minimum 2 year free replacement plus the pro-rate.

i will see if i can find Delco batteries here in town , thanks  ;)
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2009, 08:42:21 PM »
A friend of mine works at the local Auto Zone part time.  In his words optima batteries are JUNK.
He said they have more returns of them than any other part he's ever seen.

I  use a nice big Wal Mart deep cycle battery.  No problems and we run the stereo a lot with the engine off.   It's not nuts just nice music.

Any battery can last a long time or die tomorrow.  It's the nature of the beast.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2009, 07:18:56 AM »
I have a few red top optimas, and all were junk after a year. I picked up a autozone gold battery, with the three year warranty, last season and have not have one single problem. I let it sit for 2-3 months and it fired the motor right up. It keeps a constant 12.5-14.0 amps too.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2009, 12:59:15 PM »
Run two 6 volt batteries in series like the golf carts do , your charge will last a long time and your cranking amps will be through the roof.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2010, 05:44:19 PM »
I was almost too lazy to search this topic and well lookie here, a year to the day the last time anybody asked about this.   I guess I am off to AutoZone for a battery.   Not a fan of the crowd mentality at Costco, but that replacement guarantee is hard to beat.   Thanks for the schoolin' Chief.   :thumbup:
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2010, 10:39:07 AM »
i think i am going to try two 6v golf cart batteries or i am going to install a remote start on a honda generator in the back of my boat so my stereo can run all day.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2010, 11:25:47 AM »
I've had good luck with Delco AGM batteries.  2-year no cost replace, the next 5 are pro-rated. 
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2010, 06:11:14 PM »
Good thread to revive John!

After my troubles at Big River last June with a near new Autozone battery (had to rod the second battery from the truck to complete the weekend) I bought a Blue Optima for Moo. Seems to work just fine, and my mentality says that the gel cell format of it will be better suited to the constant jolts I throw at her! I beleive that is what killed the original battery.

Autozone was cool about it, they gave me full credit on it towards the Optima. We'll see how it holds up long term, but it's already outlasted, and quite a bit and then some, the lead acid battery.

Food for thought though. Warranties are great, especially when stood behind, but they won't tow you in or not succeed in ruining your weekend when they DO go out.........

Warranties and reliability are 2 completely different things.

Ray 
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