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maddogg20

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2010, 09:37:57 PM »
I have a red top optima in my truck, but this may sound weird, and I have a hard time believing it myself, but I found that the Everstart MAxx deep cycle series batteries seem to be VERY good. The one in the boat is now 3 years old, and it sat on my shelf for a year while i rebuilt the boat and started the engine right up when i put it back in without having to even be put on a tender. I was also told that they were rated higher than optimas by consumer reports too, lol wow whoda thunk that.
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lbhsbz

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2010, 09:50:26 PM »
Deep cycle batteries are designed for deep cycles....complete discharges before recharges.  Great to run stereos, power travel trailers, go carts...etc.

Cranking batteries are meant to deliver greater amps in shorter spurts, but will not last long if completely discharged on a regular basis.

Keep your junk tuned right so it fires in a timely fashion, and a regular battery is fine.  I generally have a couple batteries lying around between all my vehicles, so I pick two and bring them with.  Never had a problem.

I think most of the starting issues that exist in the marine world are due to starters that are full of water or rusty inside instead of due to battery issues.  I've got a VW rabbit battery in the boat now and with a good starter...it works great. 
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2010, 10:13:44 PM »
I have a red top optima in my truck, but this may sound weird, and I have a hard time believing it myself, but I found that the Everstart MAxx deep cycle series batteries seem to be VERY good. The one in the boat is now 3 years old, and it sat on my shelf for a year while i rebuilt the boat and started the engine right up when i put it back in without having to even be put on a tender. I was also told that they were rated higher than optimas by consumer reports too, lol wow whoda thunk that.

Love them or hate them...Optima batteries Suck IMHO...

I had one in the race boat, sucked...Shorted out the third day in the boat :banghead:

I had three in my motor home, sucked...Lights would only last about an hour and a half (vs. four hours with lead acid)

I had one in my GMC Z71 truck, sucked...Truck would sit for weeks at a time and always had to be jumped/charged...

BTW I used to work for the company that owns them (Optima is owned by JCI) and I could buy them stupid cheap, would not give you a nickle for a train load.....They do have a decent warranty though, every Optima I ever bought was replaced under warranty.... :screwy:

FWIW Most deep cycle batteries are just that, batteries developed to be depleted and discharged...Sometimes called a "house battery" (motorhome speak)...Whereas a cranking battery is designed for a rapid recharge after partial depletion...

The cranking battery is typically tougher for that reason. In a boat, look for a high reserve number and a high CCA (cold cranking amps)...The deep cycle will do less work, but for a longer time, but they take a little longer to recharge.

I have run both deep cycles and automotive batteries in my boats, and to be honest, it boils down to personal preference and how often you will get the boat wet.

I will say, you can buy a $50 Auto Zone 60 month battery and have the same luck as with a $200 AGM.

Battery tenders cost about $40 and work incredibly for the money...

A little tidbit though, the deep cycle is a little heavier for the same size chassis.  Just food for thought.

GT
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
  • Boat #2: 19' Bubble deck Jet BBC Berkeley
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lbhsbz

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2010, 12:16:28 AM »
Love them or hate them...Optima batteries Suck IMHO...

I had one in the race boat, sucked...Shorted out the third day in the boat :banghead:

I had three in my motor home, sucked...Lights would only last about an hour and a half (vs. four hours with lead acid)

I had one in my GMC Z71 truck, sucked...Truck would sit for weeks at a time and always had to be jumped/charged...

BTW I used to work for the company that owns them (Optima is owned by JCI) and I could buy them stupid cheap, would not give you a nickle for a train load.....They do have a decent warranty though, every Optima I ever bought was replaced under warranty.... :screwy:

FWIW Most deep cycle batteries are just that, batteries developed to be depleted and discharged...Sometimes called a "house battery" (motorhome speak)...Whereas a cranking battery is designed for a rapid recharge after partial depletion...

The cranking battery is typically tougher for that reason. In a boat, look for a high reserve number and a high CCA (cold cranking amps)...The deep cycle will do less work, but for a longer time, but they take a little longer to recharge.

I have run both deep cycles and automotive batteries in my boats, and to be honest, it boils down to personal preference and how often you will get the boat wet.

I will say, you can buy a $50 Auto Zone 60 month battery and have the same luck as with a $200 AGM.

Battery tenders cost about $40 and work incredibly for the money...

A little tidbit though, the deep cycle is a little heavier for the same size chassis.  Just food for thought.

GT

I couldn't agree more.  I've had about 3 of them over the years...they all seemed to suck...and die an early death.  I stick with interstate
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maddogg20

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2010, 01:07:18 AM »
40 bux? dammmn lol I picked up 2 baby tenders from harbor freight for 8 bux a piece. They take a while to recharge the battery if its really dead but do a great job maintaining a charge.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2010, 06:31:12 AM »
40 bux? dammmn lol I picked up 2 baby tenders from harbor freight for 8 bux a piece. They take a while to recharge the battery if its really dead but do a great job maintaining a charge.

I have seen the China Freight ones and to be honest, they don't have the desulfide logic like in the Tenders...

I used to use the Tenders on the jet ski batteries and could get five years out of a cheap battery with them.

They allow the battery voltage to drop, then bump it back up, not just keep it at the same voltage...This keeps plate oxidization down and boils off very little water (electrolyte).

The cheapies work, but there is more to the Tenders IMHO.

GT
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
  • Boat #2: 19' Bubble deck Jet BBC Berkeley
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maddogg20

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2010, 04:56:06 PM »
:-) if it boils off I can get some brawndo because it has what plants and batteries crave (electrolytes) hawhawhaw sorry had to do it. I saw idiotocracy the other day and that shit had me rollin, sorry. .. back on topic...
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SLCKREG

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2010, 06:57:44 PM »
Well I've managed to limp this year out with the old deep cycle. Soooo did we decide if it's not going to be an optima, should you go deep cycle, or get a regular battery and keep it charged? Or is it one of those what ever cranks your motor type of decisions. :P
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GlassCutter

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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2010, 07:56:35 PM »
GT among others convinced me to go regular car battery.    I don't have a big stereo and this boat don't have a fridge like the FearLes does   O0

When we ski we start and stop a lot.    I have never really had problems with batteries that were not deep cycle, I just knew other people used them.
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Re: Battery deep cycle or regular?
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2010, 02:57:36 AM »
I dunno. I still like the idea of the Gel Cell, only because I saw what I did to the regular battery (In 2 months) with my inexperienced ass pounding the hell out of the boat (And hence, the battery). Also saw what happened to my cruiser, beleived to be started by a battery explosion.

Moo's been perfectly fine with her Optima (Installed a few days after the Big River trip last year), and I put another in the Pickle. Going to have to add another battery to Moo for this 5 jigawatt or whatever it is stereo Boost set me up with tho,  O0

Those at the TPM know how often I had to hit the starter too! No problems with the Optima as yet.

Ray

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