Electric Fuel Pump

« **on:** March 06, 2013, 10:13:36 PM »

Looking for a little advice. I'm in need of a new fuel pump, as of now I'm torn between a Holly Red or Carter. I'm running an all stock marine power sport pack, but looking to do minor mods to the eng. in the future, nothing too crazy

. Pros and cons between the two?

« **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2013, 10:22:48 PM »

When I was selling speed parts the Holley Red pump didn't come with a regulator, and by the time you got a regulator you could get the Blue pump with regulator for not much more.

The red pump will be fine, but I'd recommend getting the blue pump just to make sure you have enough flow and pressure for any up grades you might do in the future.

The Carter pump is fine for a street application but won't flow enough for a jet boat in my opinion.

« **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2013, 10:25:47 PM »

Carter on two boats, 13 seasons and 2 seasons. One (bbc) has a few mods

Daniel

« **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2013, 11:49:36 PM »

I have a Holley blue on mine that I will be switching out for a mechanical because my tanks draw from the top and electric pumps dont like to pull fuel.

« **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2013, 01:08:54 AM »

Clay smith mechanical, badass fuel pump. What will be on my 460 with a john kasse oil pump.

« **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2013, 02:45:54 AM »

Check your oil pressure switch before you decide the fuel pump doesn't work. Marine power plays tricks, take some alligator clips and jump your pump from the battery and make it buzz.

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« **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2013, 07:10:15 AM »

Thanks for the info, looks like I need to do a lil more research. Updates to follow.

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« **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:55:09 AM »

Quote from: Rogers Hopeful on March 06, 2013, 11:49:36 PM

I have a Holley blue on mine that I will be switching out for a mechanical because my tanks draw from the top and electric pumps dont like to pull fuel.

With a bow tank in mine, it had 18'+ of fuel line, and a Gen VI BBC, no mechanical fuel pump provision, had to be electric. The electric worked fine, transom mounted. Fuel pressure never dropped below 6 psi. It would pull 5500 rpm on a worn pump and 5200 on a tight pump, 71.8 mpg best gps.
Most tanks I've seen draw 'over the top'

Daniel

« **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2013, 10:45:43 AM »

Quote from: BIG JOHNSON on March 07, 2013, 02:45:54 AM

Check your oil pressure switch before you decide the fuel pump doesn't work. Marine power plays tricks, take some alligator clips and jump your pump from the battery and make it buzz.

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I've read this in other threads, and will try it. I'm having issues with my ride, and people I've talked to (the way I describe it) say I could be having a fuel delivery problem or even possibly vapor lock. So I figure start with the fuel pump, and go from there. I'm considering a Carter cause that's what on there now (easy to replace), just not sure how it will handle minor mods. If I go with a Holly I'll have to find a new area to mount the pump being that its gravity fed

Lil more info bout the boat, its a 2000 Carrera 202xr all original and stock marine power sport pack only getting bout 4600 RPM's (Is that normal), American Turbine AT-309 pump with inducer rebuilt last season by GS marine. I've had the boat going on five years now. Thanks in advance for everyone's info!

« **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2013, 11:51:03 AM »

Are you not able to put a mechanical fuel pump on? I never cared for electric pumps but always carry one just incase.

« **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2013, 12:05:07 PM »

holley red here. carters are nice pumps, the mother in laws mastercraft needed a carter replacement when it died on us in the channel.

just goes to show, it doesnt matter what brand, its electrical and it will go out on you with no signs of wear. i carry a spare holley in the truck with me. mechanicals are nice because they just work, but i also will run my pump and drains the tanks into our cars when we're not using the boat. instant start ups are nice too.

« **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2013, 12:21:15 PM »

Quote from: mash on it on March 07, 2013, 08:55:09 AM

With a bow tank in mine, it had 18'+ of fuel line, and a Gen VI BBC, no mechanical fuel pump provision, had to be electric. The electric worked fine, transom mounted. Fuel pressure never dropped below 6 psi. It would pull 5500 rpm on a worn pump and 5200 on a tight pump, 71.8 mpg best gps.
Most tanks I've seen draw 'over the top'

Daniel

Well mine wont run for more then 30 mins and Holley is saying its because the pump is not below the bottom of the tank (which it is), Fuel filter is clogged (its brand new), or its pulling the fuel and over heating. so I am gonna ditch it and go mechanical.

« **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2013, 01:21:14 PM »

You can start by installing a fuel pressure gauge.

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« **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2013, 05:06:51 PM »

Quote from: SoCalPSD on March 07, 2013, 11:51:03 AM

Are you not able to put a mechanical fuel pump on? I never cared for electric pumps but always carry one just incase.

I'm not sure if or even know where to begin if I were able to switch to mechanical. After reading a lil about em it almost seems like a better way to go! I'm pretty green when it comes to mechanical stuff. I can replace parts like a mother f#cker, but trouble shooting is a whole different story.

« **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:00:48 PM »

Would it be over kill to put a in line fuel filter on both tanks, or should one going to the carb suffice?

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« **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:18:35 PM »

Quote from: sevans01 on March 13, 2013, 10:00:48 PM

Would it be over kill to put a in line fuel filter on both tanks, or should one going to the carb suffice?

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get a sierra fuel/water separator (if water gets in your tank from one of the fuel fill gaskets leaking, etc it can be disastrous for your engine), plumb each tank to it, then on the output side run that to your pump. then after the pump a ~10 micron filter to help keep the small bits out of your carbs tiny holes. the sierras are like $30, and a small micron filter shouldnt cost much either.

« **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:37:16 PM »

Right tank to filter, to fuel switch
Left tank to (another) filter, to fuel switch
r/l fuel switch to elec fuel pump, to carb
In have spin on filters on mine, Bob did it.

Daniel

« **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2013, 06:55:54 AM »

On mine each tank has a inline filter before the switch then the water fuel separator then to the pump.

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« **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2013, 07:28:03 AM »

Make sure your water fuel sep is at least 3/8 npt (1/2 fuel line). Lots of info on just a simple 1/4 to 3/8npt on water sep for fuel pressure increase. You may also just use that for filter and up to a 21 micron. I chased a fuel issue for a while and tried both electric/ mech. The more filters and smaller rubber fuel line(3/8), the more restriction. Most tanks are at least -8 3/8npt and having a 1/2 fuel line from tank to pump will make it seem like you moved your tank closer to engine. I added stainless spring inside some tight corner fuel line to keep them from collapsing. I run a carter mech on my ford....

« **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2013, 12:41:18 PM »

All good info thanks guys.

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« **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2013, 09:27:31 AM »

On my pos I ran from the tanks to my water separator, a filter just after my separator and a filter before the carb. All half inch line.

« **Reply #21 on:** April 19, 2013, 09:36:15 PM »

Thanks for everyone's info! So here's what I came up with so far. Jumped on the Holley band wagon 750 dp, carter fuel pump, and inline fuel filters before the switch. And what do you know, she fired right up! Gonna need some help fine tuning the girl though. Big accomplish for me, not knowing what the hell I'm doing. Gonna try and post pics
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« **Reply #22 on:** April 19, 2013, 10:53:07 PM »

Edit... Been drinking a wee bit.

The switch in question is a POS.

There is a better switch out there,I will get you the part number.

I would also recommend installing a second switch for emergencies.

GT

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« **Reply #23 on:** April 20, 2013, 11:01:01 AM »

What is this switch you guys are talking about?

« **Reply #24 on:** April 20, 2013, 11:54:37 AM »

The fuel switch is what came with the boat, and as of now I do not plan on replacing it. I'm not to sure what GT is talking about. Any advise is always welcome!

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