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Pandak

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BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« on: August 09, 2015, 09:03:41 PM »
What's up guys? Have a 1990's 19ft Eliminator with a BBC 454.. Took the boat out a couple of weeks ago and it was cutting in and out at high rpm's. Noticed the power wire on the fuel tank seperator valve was loose and when I went to tighten it the threads broke. Anyway put a new one on but as I suspected the problems still there but worse now. Will start up and idle but when giving it any gas it just backfires and dies. Put a Holley 750 on not too long ago and cleaned it just last week. Kind of lost as where to look to now.. Possibly points gap on distributor is out of whack? Any suggestions?? Need to get her going before we head to Parker Thursday!!
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2015, 09:25:19 PM »
What's up guys? Have a 1990's 19ft Eliminator with a BBC 454.. Took the boat out a couple of weeks ago and it was cutting in and out at high rpm's. Noticed the power wire on the fuel tank seperator valve was loose and when I went to tighten it the threads broke. Anyway put a new one on but as I suspected the problems still there but worse now. Will start up and idle but when giving it any gas it just backfires and dies. Put a Holley 750 on not too long ago and cleaned it just last week. Kind of lost as where to look to now.. Possibly points gap on distributor is out of whack? Any suggestions?? Need to get her going before we head to Parker Thursday!!
Have you checked your float levels or to see if the carb is squirting fuel?
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2015, 09:33:02 PM »
I did check that earlier and fuel trickled out as it should. However, did pull the plugs and they did look a little soaked so I'm not sure.. Gonna check the point gap tomorrow, hopefully that does it
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2015, 09:44:24 PM »
Check fuel pressure?
What type of ign. Set up?
Driveline spin freely?
Checked plugs/wires?
Old fuel?

Just thinking out loud here.


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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2015, 09:47:54 PM »
Check fuel pressure?
What type of ign. Set up?
Driveline spin freely?
Checked plugs/wires?
Old fuel?

Just thinking out loud here.


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Fuel pressure is good, plugs and wires good, there was a small amount of older fuel when I bought the boat but have ran over 15 gallons in each since, haven't checked driveline
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2015, 10:22:13 PM »
I'm kinda leaning towards something electrical ign, coil, dizzy, bad ground, timing.

What kind of fuel pump?



Is it super smooth up until it cuts out? Or is it rough until it dies? 


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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2015, 05:30:56 AM »
I'm kinda leaning towards something electrical ign, coil, dizzy, bad ground, timing.

What kind of fuel pump?



Is it super smooth up until it cuts out? Or is it rough until it dies? 


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Same here. Sounds pretty healthy when fired up and idling then as soon you touch the gas pedal it coughs and dies. It's got a manual fuel pump on it
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2015, 09:35:57 AM »

Fuel pressure is good, plugs and wires good, there was a small amount of older fuel when I bought the boat but have ran over 15 gallons in each since, haven't checked driveline
if it's the same older fuel pump as stated . I would change it out just for piece of mind , JMO


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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2015, 02:16:08 PM »
How much fuel comes out when you hit the throttle. Frankly if it starts up easily then it's not ignition,  it's fuel. I'd say one of a few different things.

1 float levels off

2 vacuum leak

3 carp under the needle and seat so dual is just pouring in

4 accelerator pump not working.

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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2015, 05:37:53 PM »
Sounds like accelerator pump to me


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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2015, 05:51:07 PM »
Boat did not want to start this afternoon at all. Just adjusted the points gap and it fired right up and sounded healthy. Gonna run down to the lake and test it out
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2015, 06:30:09 PM »

Boat did not want to start this afternoon at all. Just adjusted the points gap and it fired right up and sounded healthy. Gonna run down to the lake and test it out

Nice hopfully that was your problem. Best thing i ever did was get a pertronix module thing that eliminates the points in my distributor Id look into that


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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2015, 06:37:04 PM »
Boat fired up, but still dieing after giving it gas
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 07:07:04 PM »
Boat fired up, but still dieing after giving it gas

What was the dwell?

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2015, 07:46:26 PM »
Seems to have a blown head gasket. Oil doesn't look so hot..
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Re: BBC 454.. Dying under load after idle????
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 10:06:08 PM »
That's all she wrote
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