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Ford 460 battery question
« on: May 08, 2015, 12:40:12 AM »
What size should I run I currently have a 540cca battery but after it comes off the charger first couple starts are good then it has a hard time. I just changed the starter cap coil rotor n plugs thanks fellas


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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2015, 06:37:36 AM »
540 ca is low and it sounds like that battery is on its way out. A decent group 24 is 1000 MCA and will turn your engine over much better. If you have room and don't mind a little extra weight get a commercial group 31. 1100 CCA or so and has the required studded terminals. It will probably have a slightly longer warranty as most marine warranties are 18-24 months and commercial is usually 36 months.

CA = cranking amps at 80 F
MCA = marine cranking amps at 80 F
CCA = cold cranking amps at 32 or 0 F depending on manufacturer

The higher the temp the higher the cranking amps will be.
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2015, 06:42:28 AM »
I run two 29's in mine... bout the same as 31's

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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2015, 07:22:52 AM »
One optima red top
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2015, 07:51:13 AM »
The the quality of current Optimas I would not recommend one. Redtop would be the way to go as it has a 3 year warranty vs 18 months on Blue tops.
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2015, 09:17:36 AM »
Red tops aren't a good choice for marine/storage use. Once they go dead or lost some charge...the damage is done. Any regular batt for the most part has a 3yr. In a boat better to run a marine/deep cell type for the average boat. I run a marine type in my 56 f100 as its not a daily driver.

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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2015, 09:30:47 AM »
I bought a costco group 27 for mine. I think it was just under a hundred bucks good warranty.


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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2015, 09:59:57 AM »
Red tops aren't a good choice for marine/storage use. Once they go dead or lost some charge...the damage is done. Any regular batt for the most part has a 3yr. In a boat better to run a marine/deep cell type for the average boat. I run a marine type in my 56 f100 as its not a daily driver.

Correct. FYI, Optima only makes two style of batteries. Deep cycle (light gray bottom) and starting (dark gray bottom). The top color has more to do with the type of terminal it has than anything else.

Red top = always starting
Blue top = Starting or deep cycle depending on bottom color
Yellow top = always deep cycle

Optimas are generally a group 34 which is close in size to a group 24 marine. They also do make group 27 and 31 which are less common.

Group 24 = 10" long
Group 27 = 12" long
Group 29/30 = 12.5/12.75" long
Group 31 = 13" long

The larger a battery the longer it lasts. The reason I suggest a group 31 is that it is a very common size, as it used in motor homes, heavy equipment, semi trucks, ect. Being common makes it a good bang for the buck, most good group 31s will last 3-7 years depending on use and maintenance. They normally cost between 85-150 depending on manufacturer/brand name and ratings.
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2015, 12:56:34 AM »
Thanks guys got a group 34 agm 880 cca 5yr warranty


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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2015, 11:26:50 AM »
I don't recognize that brand. Where was it purchased?
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2015, 11:31:37 AM »
Why does the thread sometimes not load?
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2015, 11:47:31 AM »
Nevermind. That is an Exide Edge AGM. The hold down threw me off.
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2015, 03:15:26 PM »
Nevermind. That is an Exide Edge AGM. The hold down threw me off.
Are you a battery guy or what?
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2015, 04:00:31 PM »
Are you a battery guy or what?

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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2015, 09:47:55 PM »
Lol. Yea. That is one of my businesses.
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2015, 12:16:18 PM »
Good battery?


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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2015, 12:21:16 PM »
Those are a fairly new product that I don't see much so I am not sure. Better than an Optima though, everything is.
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2015, 05:36:55 PM »
Philofab, what battery line do you recommend, since your in the battery business.
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2015, 05:47:40 PM »
Deka makes a great product as far as sealed/flooded and I really like their AGM product. Northstar is also good if you are looking for a high end AGM product.

Trojan and US Battery make the best deep cycle.

JCI product is hit or miss depending on the supply channel it comes through (Sams, Walmart, Autozone, Interstate, ect).
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Re: Ford 460 battery question
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2015, 06:48:36 PM »
Well, I have to 2nd the Deka product. I am a huge distributor of their product. Have 4 locations in California. Was just feeling you out. Can't go wrong with American made.
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