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mobboss

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2013, 03:27:43 PM »
Dam im sorry that sucks!
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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2013, 03:50:11 PM »
Brad that is the same thing that happen to my buddy's engine.  That's why I ask about rod bolts.  That sucks to see someone go through that.  Its not something to joke about for sure.  Well hope you have better luck rebuilding.  Still hope to meet some of you guys soon.
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Beaveretriever

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2013, 05:41:26 PM »
That sure seems like a lot of damage for the motor barely running. It sounded great when ypu got on it in the middle of the turn. We couldn't even hear a bang or rattle from the shore. We just saw you slow down idle then shut it off. That is really weird. Im sorry B-RAD I know how much this trip ment to you. You could always throw your other motor in there and just change the plates in the race boat. And I would agree with you. Looks like a rod bolt broke :(

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2013, 11:26:35 PM »
My dad put a rod in backwards on our old 460 (too many beers into it) and it ran good for a minute, got on it and threw the rod through a brand new Dooley pan.
Sucks man hope you get it right!

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2013, 11:51:09 PM »
Holy crap in the pan batman...

Man, that sucks, I don't mind doing stuff once, but twice, then a third?

Sorry brother, let me know of there is something I can do from here, not sure what, just throwing it out there.

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2013, 08:34:17 AM »
block is junk....cracked #5 cylinder as well.

this shits depressing



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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2013, 08:41:12 AM »
My dad put a rod in backwards on our old 460 (too many beers into it) and it ran good for a minute, got on it and threw the rod through a brand new Dooley pan.
Sucks man hope you get it right!

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just to clarify once again, the rods arent OEM rods, they are SCAT rods. These rod caps cannot be put on backwards. they are offset. the cap is misaligned by about 1/8" if you line them up incorrectly. it wouldnt even fit on the crank next to another rod if you did this.

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81sprint

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2013, 09:11:54 AM »
That sucks
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LakesOnly

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2013, 11:19:50 AM »
Bummer, Brad, sorry to see this.  :(




Looking at the above image, the angle of the break in the pump relative to the location of the missing rod suggests that the rod went first, came swinging around and
kicked the pump (and pickup tube) out of its way.




Looking at the above image: You might be suprised just how quickly a split cylinder can fill up with water, especially at jet boat cooling system pressures. This
engine failure could be a result of a split cylinder resulting in immediate hydro-lock. This hypothesis cannot be concluded from the images presented but is
certainly a possibility. Further, I don't see any rod smacking where the cylinder is split open (ie, mechanical damage did not crack the cylinder), so the
cylinder being the first to split is very possible.

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2013, 12:04:56 PM »
I agree that really sucks, after all your work. Well on to Long Beach.
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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2013, 02:01:24 PM »
I agree that really sucks, after all your work. Well on to Long Beach.

Brad won't do Long Beach.

Long story.

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Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2013, 03:27:03 PM »
I've run long beach since I put the 410 on the rocks....thats not the reason.

long beach is one of the most abusive races on the map....the water conditions really put a toll on the structure of the boat. Each time I've run that race, I've had to do extensive fiberglass work afterwards.

I have zero interest in running any races in the future other than the idaho regatta......so the 888 will remain covered for another 10 months.
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SuperJet

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2013, 06:35:46 PM »
Oh man.... That hurts to look at dude. If that were we me I'd probably be fighting back tears of frustration right about now.
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Mine was stiff when working it back and forth on the trailer.
Once I got it on the water and under power, it was amazing!

enginedoctor

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2013, 07:48:14 PM »
Sorry  Brad sorry to see this. Here if u need me, u have my number. good luck brother.
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enginedoctor

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2013, 08:01:35 PM »
Brad,  Did u have that cylinder block pressure tested and sonic tested ?
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2013, 09:17:27 PM »
Brad,  Did u have that cylinder block pressure tested and sonic tested ?

yes, it was sonic checked and came back with stellar numbers.

This was block number 2 submitted to the machine shop I went through. The first one had numbers that neither myself or the machinist were comfortable with which I passed on going with.

« Last Edit: June 19, 2013, 09:20:16 PM by Brad @ SCJB »
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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2013, 09:46:01 PM »
I've run long beach since I put the 410 on the rocks....thats not the reason.

long beach is one of the most abusive races on the map....the water conditions really put a toll on the structure of the boat. Each time I've run that race, I've had to do extensive fiberglass work afterwards.

I have zero interest in running any races in the future other than the idaho regatta......so the 888 will remain covered for another 10 months.

I said it was a long story... That sumbitch do get rough though...  :screwy:

Can't recall for sure, but I believe there has been a boat up in the rocks for the last four years... :-\
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farmergord

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2013, 10:54:50 PM »
sorry to see this Brad    :thumbdown:
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88CARRERA

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2013, 08:31:26 AM »
bro what a bum deal

im thinking hydraulic to do that much damage to the rod

or failed rod bolt.


Chris

sorry about the motor dude
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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2013, 03:14:57 PM »
This is horrible to see.  I'm gonna try and make the event at the Avi in October so ill throw the back seat back in if you need a place to sit.  Sorry about your luck.
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lupo1904

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2013, 09:02:20 PM »
Can #5 be sleeved inorder to save the block?
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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2013, 09:16:35 PM »
Can #5 be sleeved inorder to save the block?

I've sleeved blocks that didn't have cracks like that, but I'd be concerned about sealing the crack in this case.   This block is already .080" over if I'm not mistaken.   To sleeve it, gotta not out quite a bit more material.

I'd find a good .030" over core, take
It to .040" and be done with it. 

Bum deal.   Those who put engines together on a dirt floor with an impact wrench usually have no issues.....when you try to do everything right...that's when shit goes wrong.  Look at it as a learning experience.  Check all the bearings and see what they look like.  It's rare that one has an opportunity to tear apart an engine with this little run time on it....it would be fun to inspect everything for wear and determine why it occurred if you see any.
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2013, 09:03:50 PM »
So I just went out in the garage the first time since I tore it down....been a week now.....puts me in a funk to even go in there and look at it. I've been off work for over a week and have avoided being in the garage.


So enough of the whining.

What do you guys think I should do now? Obviously the past is the past and I need to move forward, but what direction should I go?

Give it a shot myself again and make another engine build thread? Obviously I have more time to do it right without a rush. More time = more money to throw at it too.

or take it to a reputable local builder here in town and hand him my wallet to have it done right?

Also, what do you guys want to see out of this boat? I only have a desire to go to the idaho race once a year, but if more people supported it and helped out (no disrespect to those who have - thank you!)....I would run more races.

Basically, its turning into a pile. It needs love and its not getting it. its hard because now I am in vegas, I dont have the support/help I did in the past when I lived in socal. Other than a slam session a few years ago with Nordie and Skip and occasional help from Chromey.... Since I moved here I've done this boat for each race by myself and its getting old. This last thrash and to have it go boom minutes off the trailer was heartbreaking.

Also, would even kick around the idea of sharing driving duties too with other members.

i dono.....just rambling. what do you guys think?
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Beaveretriever

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2013, 09:13:05 PM »
I would love to see the boat running. I think that with some more time it will go better. You have done the "take it to a shop" deal before and that didnt turn out all that good either. I think with some planning build parties would be fun, it would be like the river with out the water. I feel terrible B-RAD I know what this race meant to you and its a shame it went down like it did.

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mash on it

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Re: Game: What Broke?
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2013, 10:50:20 PM »
"Failure is only an opportunity to begin again more intelligently."
                                                                      - Henry Ford



listen to Henry  :thumbup:

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