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Riverlife_

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Need help tuning my BBC
« on: April 21, 2014, 08:56:27 AM »
Hey everybody so I went to puddingstone yesterday and re-set the timing under load, the boat still has a stutter from 3k-5k if I pump the throttle it'll stay going if I stab it once it'll die, too much fuel? Not enough?

The boat is a 1970 SleekCraft 19' with a
BBC 396 .30 over with a steel crank, forged pistons, heads are 206 casting oval port closed chamber, mild cam, 1.7 full roller rockers, intake is a Victor Jr topped with a stock jetted 750 double pumper. If anyone wants to help ill supply beer! I'm in Lakewood/Long Beach area. 
Thanks in advance -Chris


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2014, 09:08:52 AM »
I know I can't help diagnose, but a question to be answered, what's your timing set at?


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2014, 10:26:12 AM »
12 initial / 36 total.


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2014, 10:40:15 AM »
What's the jetting in the carb set at ? Also is it a dp ?


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its got a big block, berkeley jet and just removed the seat belts to make it go faster

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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2014, 10:58:02 AM »
This is a new problem or a continuing dilemma?  Did this just happen since you changed the timing?  Nothing else was changed besides the timing?

Do you have to continuously pump the throttle to keep the engine in the 3k-5k range?  If so, the engine is running off of the accelerator pump and not the main circuit.

At the moment, it sounds like a fuel problem.  Is the fuel good?  Is the fuel filter restricted?  I had a similar problem when a chunk of bowl gasket clogged a jet.
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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 11:28:15 AM »
Ok so the problem started recently after I changed the intake manifold and carb, before it had a no name single plane manifold and a 750 vac secondaries and
I changed it to the Victor jr and a 750 dp that I rebuilt myself and yes I have to keep pumping it on the top end to keep it going I can get it to hold at certain points between 3-5k


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2014, 11:30:13 AM »

This is a new problem or a continuing dilemma?  Did this just happen since you changed the timing?  Nothing else was changed besides the timing?

Do you have to continuously pump the throttle to keep the engine in the 3k-5k range?  If so, the engine is running off of the accelerator pump and not the main circuit.

At the moment, it sounds like a fuel problem.  Is the fuel good?  Is the fuel filter restricted?  I had a similar problem when a chunk of bowl gasket clogged a jet.

The fuel is fresh and I haven't checked the fuel filters I have two inline between tanks and fuel pump, it has stock jetting which I think is 78/70


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2014, 03:40:47 PM »
The fuel is fresh and I haven't checked the fuel filters I have two inline between tanks and fuel pump, it has stock jetting which I think is 78/70

12 initial / 36 total.

Is your throttle linkage progressive or 1:1?  Progressive means that the primaries open before secondaries.

Square up the jets in the secondaries to make sure that you have enough fuel to start.  I want to say that those carbs originally were jetted 72s or maybe 76s, my memory is fading lately.  I also think that 36 degrees total advance is too much to start with.  I would back it down to maybe 28-30 degrees total, and then give it more if it responds well once you get your fuel worked out.
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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2014, 03:45:55 PM »

Is your throttle linkage progressive or 1:1?  Progressive means that the primaries open before secondaries.

Square up the jets in the secondaries to make sure that you have enough fuel to start.  I want to say that those carbs originally were jetted 72s or maybe 76s, my memory is fading lately.  I also think that 36 degrees total advance is too much to start with.  I would back it down to maybe 28-30 degrees total, and then give it more if it responds well once you get your fuel worked out.

Mine is progressive and I believe stock is 76/70 I threw the 78's because I already figured it was going to need more, I was using it as a baseline, I think something is definitely clogged or amiss because it never had this issue before, same fuel pump / filters / lines , also I bought the carb used as most of us do and the guy before had it set up with PV block offs and 98 mains 90 secondaries not sure what this would equate to by removing the PV


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Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2014, 03:46:00 PM »
Stock should have been 72 in front and 78 in rear. Also check the power valve. Should have a 6.5 in it. Also you can make sure that the secondary squitters are shooting enough fuel into the carb. Have someone look down in it the next time you take it out. I live down the street from puddingstone so if you need some help checking it just let me know. Always willing to help


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2014, 03:47:41 PM »
I said the 98/90's backwards my bad


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2014, 04:01:45 PM »
Put a 6.5 pv in it and 71's in the front with 31 squirters. The set up your describing right now is too lean. Have you pulled a plug ?


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2014, 04:07:24 PM »

Put a 6.5 pv in it and 71's in the front with 31 squirters. The set up your describing right now is too lean. Have you pulled a plug ?


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yeah and they looked alittle light.


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2014, 04:08:08 PM »
If it's easier for anyone to call or text feel free , (562) 277 3431 - Chris


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Re: Need help tuning my BBC
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2014, 08:07:12 AM »
Call c&j engineering in Santa Fe springs. Take the carb to them and tell them what's happen in and you motor specs. They will dial you in.


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