Intake Manifold

« **on:** August 01, 2011, 11:28:45 AM »

Ok so my boat has a stock cast iron intake manifold and wanted to but something that looks better and performs better. Since I am going with a Holley Carb I was looking into Weiand Manifolds. My question is if this manifold will work good with a stock BBF 460 with a mild cam?

http://www.holley.com/8012C.asp

Thanks
Nate

« **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2011, 11:45:39 AM »

The Weiand Stealth manifold would be a good intake for that motor, I know a few people are running them and it's on my list of Ford parts also.

« **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2011, 02:14:05 PM »

edelbrock airgap. seperate runners from lifter valley = lower air temps.

« **Reply #3 on:** August 01, 2011, 02:28:07 PM »

Not sure of the price difference, but if it was my money, I'd be buying this;
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-2966/

« **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2011, 02:42:04 PM »

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on August 01, 2011, 02:28:07 PM

Not sure of the price difference, but if it was my money, I'd be buying this;
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-2966/

get the airgap.

« **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2011, 02:52:10 PM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on August 01, 2011, 02:42:04 PM

get the airgap.

Ok jackass, that's fine and fukcing dandy for a street/car motor where you actually run the damn thing under 2000 rpm. Too bad this is jet boat world, low rpms are not very common, at least my boat doesn't see much time below about 3500. I'm suggesting this intake because that's what works. Get ahold of yourself young un, you got a lot to learn.

« **Reply #6 on:** August 01, 2011, 03:01:59 PM »

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on August 01, 2011, 02:52:10 PM

Ok jackass, that's fine and fukcing dandy for a street/car motor where you actually run the damn thing under 2000 rpm. Too bad this is jet boat world, low rpms are not very common, at least my boat doesn't see much time below about 3500. I'm suggesting this intake because that's what works. Get ahold of yourself young un, you got a lot to learn.

im just goin off the dyno graph, one of many found anywhere. has same numbers up top, and better numbers from 3k up which is where most people cruise at. why not get a manifold which is better matched to his application and has better numbers from idle to WOT? the dude currently has a STOCK cast iron intake manifold, what makes you think he's blasting out 6k WOT 1/4 mile passes in his boat?

get ahold of yourself old man, theres a difference between what works, and what works BETTER.

« **Reply #7 on:** August 01, 2011, 03:03:33 PM »

I like the airgap. I know of a couple of guys running that manifold with no issues. Both are 19' jet boats.

« **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2011, 03:10:22 PM »

I have a 18ft with a 460 with mild cam and I'm running a tunnel ram with two holley 660's.

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had 450's but went up to 660's. Runs great with either or. Just a little more on top end and gets there alot quicker though with the 660's. I like the muscle look. Lots of pros and cons though.

« **Reply #9 on:** August 01, 2011, 04:51:04 PM »

Quote from: HaulsBalls on August 01, 2011, 11:45:39 AM

The Weiand Stealth manifold would be a good intake for that motor, I know a few people are running them and it's on my list of Ford parts also.

X2....But I have a performer on mine now and a rpm sitting on another. Had a torker on it first, then replaced with no difference.

« **Reply #10 on:** August 01, 2011, 05:06:34 PM »

Quote from: Your Mom on August 01, 2011, 04:51:04 PM

X2....But I have a performer on mine now and a rpm sitting on another. Had a torker on it first, then replaced with no difference.

do all the torker's angle the carb? my torker on my bbc turns my carb like 10*, enough to make my fuel rail either go straight into the valve cover or the distributor.

« **Reply #11 on:** August 01, 2011, 07:52:31 PM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on August 01, 2011, 03:01:59 PM

im just goin off the dyno graph, one of many found anywhere. has same numbers up top, and better numbers from 3k up which is where most people cruise at. why not get a manifold which is better matched to his application and has better numbers from idle to WOT? the dude currently has a STOCK cast iron intake manifold, what makes you think he's blasting out 6k WOT 1/4 mile passes in his boat?

get ahold of yourself old man, theres a difference between what works, and what works BETTER.

Dual plane in a MOTORHOME, TOW TRUCK even a street Chevelle/ Mustang, or mercruiser

Single plane in a jet boat PERIOD unless its a tunnel ram

my $.02

Daniel
Mash on it

« **Reply #12 on:** August 01, 2011, 10:21:49 PM »

So I went through this whole ordeal awhile back as well. From my research and from people who build Fords for boats it was single plane in a jet boat all day long. Torker 2, Victor, or the Trick Flow which is what I ended up with. DO NOT get the offy.

« **Reply #13 on:** August 02, 2011, 09:57:58 AM »

Quote from: NastyNate on August 01, 2011, 11:28:45 AM

Ok so my boat has a stock cast iron intake manifold and wanted to but something that looks better and performs better. Since I am going with a Holley Carb I was looking into Weiand Manifolds. My question is if this manifold will work good with a stock BBF 460 with a mild cam?

http://www.holley.com/8012C.asp

Thanks
Nate

The Weiand Stealth # 8012 is a dual plane high rpm intake and it can certainly suit a bone-stock 460 in a jet boat just fine. It is also very value priced. However, if your engine currently has a Ford iron intake with the casting number D0OE-9425-C, then the power improvement with the 8012 will be only very slight (in front of a jet) and more of a weight savings than anything. But the weight difference is substantial.

If you have not yet purchased an intake manifold and are willing to spend a little bit more up front (more than the cost of the 8012) then get the Edelbrock Victor. For different reasons, you might not see a world of difference in the performance of your engine (other than weight savings) but you will have more room to grow down the road.

LO

« **Reply #14 on:** August 02, 2011, 10:01:10 AM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on August 01, 2011, 02:42:04 PM

I fail to see how a dyno comparison of intake manifolds, for a small block chevy, which is to be driven on the street, could have any relevance to a Ford 460 in a jet boat application.

LO

« **Reply #15 on:** August 02, 2011, 10:21:52 AM »

Nate,
If you were to concider anyone's advice, LakesOnly would have the experience.

« **Reply #16 on:** August 02, 2011, 10:48:50 AM »

Quote from: HaulsBalls on August 02, 2011, 10:21:52 AM

Nate,
If you were to concider anyone's advice, LakesOnly would have the experience.

x2 was a huge help on my 460 build, Paul is always willing to help

« **Reply #17 on:** August 03, 2011, 07:00:01 AM »

Thanks guys for all your input. I decided to go with the Edelbrock Victor. Based on what was said I think thats the best way to go..

Thanks again
Nate

« **Reply #18 on:** August 03, 2011, 02:35:00 PM »

Quote from: LakesOnly on August 02, 2011, 09:57:58 AM

The Weiand Stealth # 8012 is a dual plane high rpm intake and it can certainly suit a bone-stock 460 in a jet boat just fine. It is also very value priced. However, if your engine currently has a Ford iron intake with the casting number D0OE-9425-C, then the power improvement with the 8012 will be only very slight (in front of a jet) and more of a weight savings than anything. But the weight difference is substantial.

If you have not yet purchased an intake manifold and are willing to spend a little bit more up front (more than the cost of the 8012) then get the Edelbrock Victor. For different reasons, you might not see a world of difference in the performance of your engine (other than weight savings) but you will have more room to grow down the road.

LO

Hey LO on Edelbrock's website they say that the Victor manifold has to be port matched. Is this really necessary?

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