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marceldawson70

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which heads a re better?????
« on: July 31, 2008, 01:43:54 PM »
heres my delima' I have 2 sets of heads! 1 set of D2VE AA heads.  set of D3VE A2A heads. which are better to use till I save up for the good trick heads? ???
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Re: which heads a re better?????
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 01:50:21 PM »
Which one's are in better shape? Is the engine stock? Is one of the set of heads RTR ?

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2008, 02:15:52 PM »
this motor is a rebuilt that had 3000miles on it was pulled from a F250. ran till removed! I pulled the D3 heads cause they had 5/8 spark plugs.. The D2 heads were just done, I actually owned these heads 9 years ago! sticking in a comp FF 280 H10 cam, performer manifold, 750DP, and log manifolds. just wanna go have fun w/the kids....
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Re: which heads a re better?????
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 02:36:03 PM »
Go for the D3's, from what I understand the D2ve's have no quench area and are completly open chamber which are prone to detonation.

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 02:40:45 PM »
Thanks I'll clean and install!!!!
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Re: which heads a re better?????
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 03:01:55 PM »
Who's got the best or shall I say least expensive bolt on close chamber heads?
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Re: which heads a re better?????
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 05:24:15 PM »
heres my delima' I have 2 sets of heads! 1 set of D2VE AA heads.  set of D3VE A2A heads. which are better to use till I save up for the good trick heads? ???
The D3VE's, hands down.

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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 05:35:28 PM »
....from what I understand the D2ve's have no quench area and are completly open chamber which are prone to detonation.
Correct, the D2VE-AA cylinder head is a single year 1972 production model cylidner head...comes in at about a 100cc combustion chamber volume. It is the only 429/460 mass produced passenger car applicable open chamber head.

A lot of people view the D3VE as the original "smogger" head, but the fact is that the D0VE's were used through the 1971 model year and then the D2VE replaced the D0VE's for 1972, thereby making it the true original smogger head.  Ford's idea was to dramatically lower compession with its big cavernous open chamber.  The heads proved to be so horribly detonation prone that Ford quickly ditched them and came out with the the D3VE. What they actually did was look back at the head that worked--the D0VE--and then recreated it but lowered the combustion chamber 0.100" deeper into the head so as to increase volume and lower compression.  This way, the combustion chamber volume was increased but the quench pad was retained.  ;) Incidentally, since the chamber is 0.100" lower in the head, the D3VE (and later) heads use a valve with a 0.100" shorter overall length than the earlier (C8VE, C9VE, D0Ve) heads. Trade Secret: This means that the early head spec'd valves can be used as +0.100" long valves in a D3VE head!  ;D

As with all 429/460 factory iron used in high performance builds, porting helps measurabley.

LO
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 05:36:39 PM »
Who's got the best or shall I say least expensive bolt on close chamber heads?
We sell all the factory iron castings...from as-cast bare castings to fully assembled and ported, or anywhere in between.

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2008, 12:34:44 PM »
thanks LO I'll save some $$$ and hit you back.....  Marcel
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 01:27:28 PM »
Hey Paul, are the valve and port sizes as large on the 73' heads as the earlier Dove heads? (in stock form)

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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2008, 04:33:52 PM »
Hey Paul, are the valve and port sizes as large on the 73' heads as the earlier Dove heads? (in stock form)
Both the D3VE's and D0VE heads come from the factory with 2.08"/1.65" valves; the intake port architecture between the two head styles is almost identical (absolutely identical after porting); the exhaust ports are slightly different, and the D0VE head's exhaust port can be made to flow a little better than the D3VE's but the difference is negligible and the flow characteristics can be "crutched" with the exhaust lobe's profile of the camshaft.

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 02:09:45 PM »
LO, what does a set of cast heads run?  Are you local here in the Ya area?
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2008, 08:05:42 PM »
I looked on the web site, $289 a pairs not bad! can I use the valves and rockers from my other (D2VE) heads or will I have to buy new valves? I know I have to change my springs as I am ordering a comp FF 280H-10 grind cam. I want to stay reliable, I live out here on bethel island and this will be a daily driver! the rest of the motor is pretty much stock. performer intake, 750 DP, mallory elec. dist, and log manifolds-bassetts wouldnt clear the hight of the transom and I have kids so I want to keep the hatch! theres pics on the glass forum"shall I strip it?". Very interested in the heads!
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2008, 07:27:26 AM »
It's likely we may be able to do you better than $289/pair (our commerciallly advertised price), certainly with some valve train setup that can allow you to simply swap heads (ready to bolt on).

I am at the drag boat races in Kentucky right now and will be returning to the bay area later tonight.  PM me your number and we'll discuss what you need and get you a more accurate final price and a good deal.

LO
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2008, 07:37:26 AM »
Enjoy the races! Have a safe trip home!  You will have PM.
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2008, 10:45:47 AM »
It's likely we may be able to do you better than $289/pair (our commerciallly advertised price), certainly with some valve train setup that can allow you to simply swap heads (ready to bolt on).

I am at the drag boat races in Kentucky right now and will be returning to the bay area later tonight.  PM me your number and we'll discuss what you need and get you a more accurate final price and a good deal.

LO


Where at in Kentucky??? I didn't hear anything about any drag boat races, I would have loved to have gone!!! :banghead:
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2008, 04:27:52 PM »
Where at in Kentucky??? I didn't hear anything about any drag boat races, I would have loved to have gone!!! :banghead:
I was at Thunder on the Green, the drag boat races on the Green River in Livermore, KY....about an hour and a half from you. The races are run  by the Kentucky Drag Boat Association, they also have events on Kentucky Lake at Pisgah Bay. I've been attending Thunder on the Green for the last 5 years.

www.kdba.net

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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2008, 04:31:33 PM »
Enjoy the races! Have a safe trip home!  You will have PM.
Got your PM...I'm back in CA now...stand  by.

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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2008, 07:34:35 PM »
I was at Thunder on the Green, the drag boat races on the Green River in Livermore, KY....about an hour and a half from you. The races are run  by the Kentucky Drag Boat Association, they also have events on Kentucky Lake at Pisgah Bay. I've been attending Thunder on the Green for the last 5 years.

www.kdba.net

LO


I'm going next year for sure!!!!!!!!!!! O0 Gonna write that one on the calendar, so I don't forget, when I get one for next year. :P

Thanks!!!!!! ;D
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