BBC top mount starter

« **on:** April 11, 2009, 04:42:03 PM »

Installed last night out this morning, never even wired it..Im sticking with the bottom mount starter.

Pics coming...$150

« **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2009, 04:55:20 PM »

3 hole top mount high torque dealio

This is new

« **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2009, 07:22:09 AM »

Its Easter , so celebrate and buy a damn starter

Oh ya..... BUMP!!

« **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2009, 08:08:55 AM »

why are you sticking to a bottom mount? just curious.

« **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2009, 08:27:23 AM »

Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on April 12, 2009, 08:08:55 AM

why are you sticking to a bottom mount? just curious.

The Eliminator came with a top mount starter and i liked the look of it, but it turned out to be A PAIN IN THE ARSE!!

Bruce (Shortbus71) came by the house and we talked about the flexplate......... I guess its supposed to have a reverse ring gear flex plate which would make total sense....

I just installed a new Pioneer flexplate on both boats and both are not reverse anything, just plain old flex plates...... So its easier to install a different starter than to buy a couple more flex plates and pull the engines again...

If i would have known this, i never would have bought these top mount starters...............

The Eliminator came with a top mount starter and since day one it has had starting issues.. It now sports a bottom mount starter and starts like a dream...

Who knows maybe it would work in my boat but im not going to even try it..... I have a new starter already in the Carribean now so im good to go

( I HOPE )

« **Reply #5 on:** April 13, 2009, 05:48:12 PM »

Quote from: 2savage4you on April 12, 2009, 08:27:23 AM

The Eliminator came with a top mount starter and i liked the look of it, but it turned out to be A PAIN IN THE ARSE!!

Bruce (Shortbus71) came by the house and we talked about the flexplate......... I guess its supposed to have a reverse ring gear flex plate which would make total sense....

I just installed a new Pioneer flexplate on both boats and both are not reverse anything, just plain old flex plates...... So its easier to install a different starter than to buy a couple more flex plates and pull the engines again...

If i would have known this, i never would have bought these top mount starters...............

The Eliminator came with a top mount starter and since day one it has had starting issues.. It now sports a bottom mount starter and starts like a dream...

Who knows maybe it would work in my boat but im not going to even try it..... I have a new starter already in the Carribean now so im good to go

( I HOPE )

Hrm.. I've got that same starter for my BBF.. And it'll catch and grab once or twice, then spin.. Are you having the same issue? It had a bottom mount starter on it before as well.

« **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:19:49 PM »

Quote from: nathan on April 13, 2009, 05:48:12 PM

Hrm.. I've got that same starter for my BBF.. And it'll catch and grab once or twice, then spin.. Are you having the same issue? It had a bottom mount starter on it before as well.

Flywheel or flexplate? If a flywheel, just install a second ring gear

That's what we have done on our aluminum flywheeled BBC and ran both starters, in case shit happen...

GT

« **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:31:50 PM »

A second ring gear??? I'm lost there(not the 1st time btw lol) The biggest issue I had with my top mount is the lack of being able to shim the damn thing, not only that, it was real picky about how far away from the flexplate it needed to be. In other words if it wasn't close enough, it would spin before it would contact the ring on the flexplate. The 1st time I fired it up it was too close and broke the starter. I'd have went back to a bottom mount but that wasn't an option with my daytona.

« **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2009, 06:32:35 PM »

Quote from: nathan on April 13, 2009, 05:48:12 PM

Hrm.. I've got that same starter for my BBF.. And it'll catch and grab once or twice, then spin.. Are you having the same issue? It had a bottom mount starter on it before as well.

Yes , if it had a bottom mount... Do yourself a favor and go back to it.

« **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2009, 09:04:11 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on April 13, 2009, 06:19:49 PM

Flywheel or flexplate? If a flywheel, just install a second ring gear

That's what we have done on our aluminum flywheeled BBC and ran both starters, in case shit happen...

GT

Second ring gear? Got any more info on that? clearance wise, it looks like it fits perfect.. the teeth engage about half way in.
I've got the same exact starter as 2sav. The only reason i bought the top mount starter, is it keeps the damn thing out of the water, and looks about 100x cleaner. but a hi torque bottom mount isnt outa the question.

« **Reply #10 on:** April 14, 2009, 12:12:31 PM »

OK now that we have scared everybody away from buying a top mount.

Make offer

« **Reply #11 on:** April 14, 2009, 12:15:03 PM »

Quote from: 2savage4you on April 14, 2009, 12:12:31 PM

OK now that we have scared everybody away from buying a top mount.

Make offer

Sorry about that Hijack.

« **Reply #12 on:** April 14, 2009, 12:21:03 PM »

Quote from: nathan on April 14, 2009, 12:15:03 PM

Sorry about that Hijack.

No worries , i usually jack my own thread

« **Reply #13 on:** April 14, 2009, 12:56:18 PM »

i went thru a bunch of gear reduction starters that i had paid like 250$ for. kept having starter problems. i put a stock one on there just to trouble shoot and i have not had a problem since.

does anyone need an unused gear reduction starter for a BBC i have two of them in the box still.

« **Reply #14 on:** April 14, 2009, 01:32:28 PM »

Looks like everybody has a chevy starter for sale

« **Reply #15 on:** April 14, 2009, 06:01:35 PM »

Quote from: nathan on April 13, 2009, 09:04:11 PM

Second ring gear? Got any more info on that? clearance wise, it looks like it fits perfect.. the teeth engage about half way in.
I've got the same exact starter as 2sav. The only reason i bought the top mount starter, is it keeps the damn thing out of the water, and looks about 100x cleaner. but a hi torque bottom mount isnt outa the question.

In the raceboat, we had an aluminum flywheel and ran two ring gears, the reason for the two gears is our starter for the top mount was a short throw Delco, and the bottom mount was a Tilton gear reduction starter, we had dual batteries and two complete electrical systems (two ign. boxes, two starters, two batteries), you could switch over with a couple of switches, was way overkill, but came in really handy...

I don't know if we have any pictures, if I do they will be of the film variety, I'll take a peek.

GT

« **Reply #16 on:** April 15, 2009, 07:10:00 AM »

Quote from: GT Jets on April 14, 2009, 06:01:35 PM

In the raceboat, we had an aluminum flywheel and ran two ring gears, the reason for the two gears is our starter for the top mount was a short throw Delco, and the bottom mount was a Tilton gear reduction starter, we had dual batteries and two complete electrical systems (two ign. boxes, two starters, two batteries), you could switch over with a couple of switches, was way overkill, but came in really handy...

I don't know if we have any pictures, if I do they will be of the film variety, I'll take a peek.

GT

got it, so - either way for this top mount starter to work, it appears that I need a differently flywheel. not gonna happen.

Got any reccomendations on a nice bottom mount starter?

« **Reply #17 on:** April 15, 2009, 11:59:45 AM »

Quote from: nathan on April 15, 2009, 07:10:00 AM

got it, so - either way for this top mount starter to work, it appears that I need a differently flywheel. not gonna happen.

Got any reccomendations on a nice bottom mount starter?

I can't count how many people i talked to that said , oh ya it will work fine. I never even tried it , i put the same set up on the Eliminator and it work about 4 times then said no more. I then put bottom mount starters on both boats and the Eliminator starts like a dream im sure mine will too.

Only one person knew what i was doing and told me after i had done it that i needed a reverse ring gear flexplate in order for it to be correct. I said the same thing......NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

So here i am losing my ass again cause i didnt know any better and nobody to blame but myself

My brain
Autozone bottom mount = $45

My brain on drugs.
Top mount =$250 Any questions

« **Reply #18 on:** April 15, 2009, 01:26:24 PM »

Ebay it! Someone out there already is set up for it and needs a new one!

« **Reply #19 on:** April 15, 2009, 02:03:01 PM »

Quote from: OC2Vegas on April 15, 2009, 01:26:24 PM

Ebay it! Someone out there already is set up for it and needs a new one!

x2 i think u steered everone away from using a top mount

« **Reply #20 on:** April 15, 2009, 02:10:39 PM »

Quote from: JWBOYER21 on April 15, 2009, 02:03:01 PM

x2 i think u steered everone away from using a top mount

Wow no shit, I wanted to get one but thats not going to happen

« **Reply #21 on:** April 15, 2009, 02:14:12 PM »

I went through the same thing a couple years ago. After 2 flexplates, 2 starters and 3 bendix(sp?) for the starters I called it quits! I wouldnt worry about getting a bottom mount starter wet. I have had mine totally immersed in water and it fired up my engine no problems!

« **Reply #22 on:** April 15, 2009, 05:24:59 PM »

Quote from: OC2Vegas on April 15, 2009, 01:26:24 PM

Ebay it! Someone out there already is set up for it and needs a new one!

I might aswell was just hoping to save the fee's Ive already lost enough money

Hell , maybe i can sell it for enough $$ to get my carb rebuilt

« **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2009, 08:03:22 AM »

Quote from: 2savage4you on April 15, 2009, 05:24:59 PM

I might aswell was just hoping to save the fee's Ive already lost enough money

Hell , maybe i can sell it for enough $$ to get my carb rebuilt

Now your thinking!

« **Reply #24 on:** April 21, 2009, 08:17:00 PM »

$125 shipped

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