Well Bob, i figure if i can sell these then i can get the wet ones. If not then the ones i have will be on the boat. Then after we run it at Elsinore then i might put mufflers on them, if they are to loud and what i mean by to loud is my ears bleading, then i will put some type of muffler on them. BTW i got the fiber glass done on the rear of the boat and i installed the exhaust covers for the transom, looks good, i will post pics later