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Tech Talk => Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair => Topic started by: Factory502 on March 28, 2008, 09:44:25 PM

Title: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Factory502 on March 28, 2008, 09:44:25 PM
Sorry if this is getting posted in the wrong section, but what kind of waxes or polishes are used on you all's boats.  The new Hondo's gel is in pretty good shape accept for couple small areas where it looks like the glitter is begining to go flat- Here is the odd part- if I polish thease areas they shine up, but the depth does not come back, but if I use my finger or oil off my skin it comes back like new- any ideas??????
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 09:46:38 PM
i like the meguires marine stuff...you can buy it in a kit and it works pretty good...i own a black boat and it brings it up really nice
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 28, 2008, 09:49:25 PM
i like the meguires marine stuff...you can buy it in a kit and it works pretty good...i own a black boat and it brings it up really nice

Thats not a boat.....Thats a NORDIC!!  ;D
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 09:52:48 PM
that's it you and your talking smack dammit...i ow ya a brew...you are going to haunt me everywhere huh???
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 28, 2008, 09:57:10 PM
that's it you and your talking smack dammit...i ow ya a brew...you are going to haunt me everywhere huh???

lol, all in good fun!  u going to terrys this weekend?

Sorry to thread jack!
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: GAWnCA on March 28, 2008, 09:57:53 PM
Sorry if this is getting posted in the wrong section, but what kind of waxes or polishes are used on you all's boats.  The new Hondo's gel is in pretty good shape accept for couple small areas where it looks like the glitter is begining to go flat- Here is the odd part- if I polish thease areas they shine up, but the depth does not come back, but if I use my finger or oil off my skin it comes back like new- any ideas??????

Have you got a photo of the area that seem to go flat? 
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 10:00:00 PM
yeah i'll be going over there most likely i got there alot...anyway factory i was thinking...another good way is get one of them nice 7 inch variable speed buffers and use the meguires...in all reality there is alot of product you can use that's why we have the internet at hand...do some research and im sure you will have others chime in on this...hell you can always color sand it
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: pw_Tony on March 28, 2008, 10:02:14 PM
Anything Meguiars you should be in the clear, still the best products I've used for detailing compared to Mothers, Eagle, Black Magic, etc
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 28, 2008, 10:03:20 PM
yeah i'll be going over there most likely i got there alot...anyway factory i was thinking...another good way is get one of them nice 7 inch variable speed buffers and use the meguires...in all reality there is alot of product you can use that's why we have the internet at hand...do some research and im sure you will have others chime in on this...hell you can always color sand it

a light wet sanding to remove any crap and oxidation and a good polish with a buffer will do wonders!
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 28, 2008, 10:04:14 PM
3M makes a really good cleaner/buffer/shiny gel maker for boats, I like it, I use it. Follow it up with a good 3M wax and you're in like Flynn

Here's the link;
http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/marine/node_GSZYQSYNY9be/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GS4JK4Y166ge/gvel_H8PTZGX97Rgl/theme_us_marine_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html (http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/marine/node_GSZYQSYNY9be/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GS4JK4Y166ge/gvel_H8PTZGX97Rgl/theme_us_marine_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html)
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 10:07:49 PM
i would never second guess anything 3M makes they always make a great product, but i would like to show you my buddies daytona after a color sand and a nice wax job

Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: 76NORDIC on March 28, 2008, 10:15:35 PM
OC dishin on the NORDIES again huh  lol ;D
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 10:19:35 PM
he's just upset he doesnt have one that's all  ;)
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 28, 2008, 10:19:40 PM
OC dishin on the NORDIES again huh  lol ;D

Who me?? Never! :sly:
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 10:25:51 PM
oh yeah you pal!!!!!!!!!! if you rode in one or got withing 10 feet of one you would change your mind rapidly
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: 76NORDIC on March 28, 2008, 10:35:42 PM
and so what might be the sled you ride in OC that ya think you can down a NORDIC   ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 28, 2008, 10:41:23 PM
and so what might be the sled you ride in OC that ya think you can down a NORDIC   ::) ::) ;D

Not downing nuting...just messing with you guys. I am currently riding in who's ever boat that has room! I have a 76 Hondo with a motor that is on the floor of the garage and a pump that will soon be on its way to Tom@JBP. I wouldnt put anybodys running boat down, just goofin around! ;D :screwy:
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: hotrod56cars on March 28, 2008, 10:44:22 PM
The guy that bought my Miller was a pro detailer. I told him the gel was cracked in spots under the paint and after you waxed it you could see the cracks as white wax lines. This is a copy and paiste of the two emails of this guy's recomendations for wax.

"Hey Rod, I use a wax called "Pro Gold" put out by a company called "Pro". They sell all kinds of detail supplies and I have been using Pro Gold for 10+ years. I use it for a buffing compound and also a hand wax. It's the best all around wax I have ever seen. It is gold in color but not liquidy like other waxes, it's still a liquid but thick so it's not runny and messy, it usually doesn't leave traces of wax unless you use too much. Here is the the web site, http://www.prowax.com/waxes.shtml, it's the 1st item. It's like $33/Gal or $9/pint. There is also some wax for boats down the page a little, it should be good but I have never tried it. The Pro Gold is good for any painted surface from boats to cars. Anyway, it's the best in my opinion. Hope this helps you. Later"

"I was just looking looking at the page with pro gold on it and at the bottom of that page is another hand wax I use to use until pro gold came out. It's called "yellow wax". It is an awesome wax that will leave no traces of residue, it is kind of transparrent and it will work you to the bone."
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: 76NORDIC on March 28, 2008, 11:00:31 PM
same here OC just goofin around, is funny how you, 1980, and I keep  :banghead: LOL has been fun  ;D ;D
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 11:02:59 PM
yeah oc shouldnt you be capt oh a wooden ship with sails? sounds fast to me
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 28, 2008, 11:06:18 PM
It would be faster then what i have now!
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 11:07:54 PM
put a sail on it and a crows nest and when it oxidizes use meguires  O0
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: 76NORDIC on March 28, 2008, 11:16:44 PM
oh come on now 80 arent ya bein a little harsh  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 11:18:50 PM
no haha i leave my feelings away from the keyboard so i hope everyone else does i guess...i thought this was supposed to be fun
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 28, 2008, 11:21:50 PM
put a sail on it and a crows nest and when it oxidizes use meguires  O0

lol
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: 76NORDIC on March 28, 2008, 11:22:27 PM
hey it is didnt ya se I smiled when i said that lol ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: Nordie on March 28, 2008, 11:26:57 PM
its too bad we ruined 502's thread we shall goto the chat to run amuck
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: pw_Tony on March 29, 2008, 12:30:11 AM
its too bad we ruined 502's thread we shall goto the chat to run amuck

Amuck afuck
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: rebel on March 29, 2008, 02:08:16 PM
FYI...  best wax is Carnuba wax. It's what is in everyones product that wants to work. Period.
The best products in each brand's line use Carnauba wax. Carnauba is a natural wax from the leaves of the Carnauba Palm in northern Brazil. It has a natural ability to retain oil, will not react with paint, and has excellent gloss properties. In its original state, it's as hard as concrete, so it must be mixed with oils or chemicals to soften it. (Manufacturers use various softening methods.)
Carnauba wax produces a very hard film to protect the vehicle's surface. The amount of Carnauba in various brands of car waxes ranges from 3% to 70%, says. Note that a label that reads "100% Carnauba," such as Mother's Pure Carnauba Wax, means that the wax component is all Carnauba, without other kinds of wax. But there must be other materials in the mixture to make the Carnauba useable.
Now polishing is another level all in it's self!    good read at --->http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:dHn1rfMAz8oJ:www.cartest.ca/cleaning_polishing__waxing.htm+carnauba+wax&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:dHn1rfMAz8oJ:www.cartest.ca/cleaning_polishing__waxing.htm+carnauba+wax&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca)

-Rebel
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: jet boat performance on March 29, 2008, 08:03:32 PM
Got a new deck waxer today but the buffer pads are worn already  :screwy:
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi147.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr319%2Fjetboatperformance%2FSat_dragon-151.jpg&hash=bcd66acc66caf71bf0ef4cec47fc780a138c8747)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi147.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr319%2Fjetboatperformance%2Flogos%2Fjetboatrolling1.gif&hash=eca990bd6cdbe85d2155fe4cf3304e7b45036e17)
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: rebel on March 29, 2008, 08:17:37 PM
Like to borrow that buffer for a while...  breath some life back into her  ;D :o >:D

Nice taste in polishers over there at JBP  ;)

-Rebel
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 29, 2008, 10:01:50 PM
Send her to vegas tom, I will change out the pads!
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: SoCal Detail on April 05, 2008, 09:42:06 PM
FYI...  best wax is Carnuba wax. It's what is in everyones product that wants to work. Period.
The best products in each brand's line use Carnauba wax. Carnauba is a natural wax from the leaves of the Carnauba Palm in northern Brazil. It has a natural ability to retain oil, will not react with paint, and has excellent gloss properties. In its original state, it's as hard as concrete, so it must be mixed with oils or chemicals to soften it. (Manufacturers use various softening methods.)
Carnauba wax produces a very hard film to protect the vehicle's surface. The amount of Carnauba in various brands of car waxes ranges from 3% to 70%, says. Note that a label that reads "100% Carnauba," such as Mother's Pure Carnauba Wax, means that the wax component is all Carnauba, without other kinds of wax. But there must be other materials in the mixture to make the Carnauba useable.
Now polishing is another level all in it's self!    good read at --->http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:dHn1rfMAz8oJ:www.cartest.ca/cleaning_polishing__waxing.htm+carnauba+wax&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca (http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:dHn1rfMAz8oJ:www.cartest.ca/cleaning_polishing__waxing.htm+carnauba+wax&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca)

-Rebel

Thats all we use 100% carnauba. I have also been using Leverage which is pretty amazing it doesnt have any carnauba in it but leaves the boat slick water beads off and if you step on the deck you will end up on your ass.
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: ryanbrindle on April 05, 2008, 09:51:43 PM
Whats the best thing to use after wet sanding to bring the shine back out????
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: GAWnCA on April 07, 2008, 05:53:34 PM
Whats the best thing to use after wet sanding to bring the shine back out????

You can go to Auto Zone and get Turtle Wax Rubbing and Polishing compounds.  You'll need an electric buffer.  What grit of sand paper did you finish with?
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: rebel on April 07, 2008, 06:11:13 PM
Whats the best thing to use after wet sanding to bring the shine back out????

I would like to say...Clear Coat  ;D

You can go to Auto Zone and get Turtle Wax Rubbing and Polishing compounds.  You'll need an electric buffer.  What grit of sand paper did you finish with?
x2...  what Greg said ;)

-Rebel
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: ryanbrindle on April 07, 2008, 10:28:15 PM
well im finishing with 3k grit and clearcoating is not an option so i will just use the rubbing and polishing compounds.
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: GAWnCA on April 07, 2008, 10:39:05 PM
well im finishing with 3k grit and clearcoating is not an option so i will just use the rubbing and polishing compounds.

You could get by with going to just 2000 grit and the rubbing it out and polishing it, maybe even get by with 1500.  Then save your money and do a complete paint job.  Hell, try just 600 grit and polish an area.  You'd be surprised at how good that will do.
Title: Re: waxes polishes etc-
Post by: rebel on April 08, 2008, 09:33:22 AM
well im finishing with 3k grit and clearcoating is not an option so i will just use the rubbing and polishing compounds.

Easy to take it from that stage, though hard to find good 3000grit sand paper (of quality and consistancy in grain)
I would finish with 2000grit Meguiar's sand paper (w/d), best in the world (insert sales ad here  ;D) and follow with there
#49 or #91 cleaning products.  See link-----> http://marinerv.meguiars.com/product/Gel-Coat-Clean (http://marinerv.meguiars.com/product/Gel-Coat-Clean)
Then your ready to follow up with there polish #45 http://marinerv.meguiars.com/product/Gel-Coat-Polish (http://marinerv.meguiars.com/product/Gel-Coat-Polish)
Lots of tips and info on the Meguiar's web site, easy to follow, and professional results  ;D   
You'll love the look of your new boat finish...   but get a electric polisher...  with speed control!  a good one will cost $200+
Only way to go and your arms will thank you  >:D

-Rebel
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