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slow67

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Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« on: June 05, 2008, 08:49:59 AM »
Its a 1976 Rogers Super Cyclone.

When walking around in it, the hull seems a little weak between the gunnel and the stringers. It flexes about 1/4"-3/8" when I step on it.
Should I add a floor in it or maybe reinforce the inside of the hull??

It has a turn fin on it. Should I keep it? The trailing edge sits about 46-47" from the transom.

While it is apart, should I go ahead and set the pump back? Or leave it? It will be strictly a lake boat (no rivers close to me). Will see Lake Texoma a lot (can be VERY rough at times).
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 09:36:45 AM »
I would keep the turn fin in it and leave it where it is.

I dont know what to tell ya bout the setback or the flex question.

Personally if its just for cruisin around with the family, i would leave the pump where it is and not set it back, its not necessary. It would benefit if it was going to be used for a drag boat application or doing high speed passes.
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MADSKILLZ

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 09:40:43 AM »
We race the same exact hull (c/j410 boat) the pump is not set back and it has a turn fin in it, no floor (less weight) and it handles awsome.
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wizard612

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 02:40:35 PM »
Looks like a great project.  My only concern is the described flex. If you will have the family in it and no plans for racing I would grind off the surface of the glass and overlay a few layers of 6oz. mat over the affected area to stiffen it up. Adding a floor does nothing to strengthen the hull.  You don't want to drop into a hole or hit a wake wrong and blow out the bottom of the boat with your family in it.  If your concerned about working with fiberglass go to a pro and have it done right.  If you were in So CAl I'd point you to B&K Boat Repair but in DFW I have no clue.  Have fun & good luck.
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76 Bonneville

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2008, 04:15:35 PM »
I know my eyes are going south on me, but isn't that a bubble deck (Bonneville). I just went out on stepped around the back section of mine. About 4" off the stringer, just above the strake, I get a little flex, but no more than a 1/8".
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slow67

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2008, 05:27:39 PM »
Looks like a great project.  My only concern is the described flex. If you will have the family in it and no plans for racing I would grind off the surface of the glass and overlay a few layers of 6oz. mat over the affected area to stiffen it up. Adding a floor does nothing to strengthen the hull.  You don't want to drop into a hole or hit a wake wrong and blow out the bottom of the boat with your family in it.  If your concerned about working with fiberglass go to a pro and have it done right.  If you were in So CAl I'd point you to B&K Boat Repair but in DFW I have no clue.  Have fun & good luck.

Thats what I was thinkin.  I have no problem doing the work either, just lookin for some pointers.

The pictures may be deceiving, it has a flat deck and a shallow v, which should make it a super cyclone. I could be wrong, just going by what I learned in this thread over on PB
http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=10406
« Last Edit: June 05, 2008, 05:30:08 PM by slow67 »
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Oldsquirt

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2008, 05:54:11 PM »
The pictures may be deceiving, it has a flat deck and a shallow v, which should make it a super cyclone. I could be wrong, just going by what I learned in this thread over on PB
http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=10406

From the pics, it definitely looks liike a "bubbledeck", just like virtually every Rogers shown in the PB thread.
The term "bubbledeck" refers to the shape of the rise from the deck surface to the top of the dash, not the shape of the deck surface itself. Your "rise" is curved from side to side and top to bottom, therefore a "bubbledeck".
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slow67

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 07:54:56 PM »
From the pics, it definitely looks liike a "bubbledeck", just like virtually every Rogers shown in the PB thread.
The term "bubbledeck" refers to the shape of the rise from the deck surface to the top of the dash, not the shape of the deck surface itself. Your "rise" is curved from side to side and top to bottom, therefore a "bubbledeck".

That means I have a Bonneville.... O0  Thanks for that info....
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blackbeard

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 07:02:10 PM »
Hey Slow
there is a jet boat site based in texas. there are a lot of good guys here on this site but if you want someone to talk to go to their site. being it is local to you that is. and don`t discount the knowledge from here either.  if you want just PM and i will send you a link.
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slow67

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 08:19:24 PM »
Hey Slow
there is a jet boat site based in texas. there are a lot of good guys here on this site but if you want someone to talk to go to their site. being it is local to you that is. and don`t discount the knowledge from here either.  if you want just PM and i will send you a link.

You mean THB?   ;D Ive got a thread over there too  ;D
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blackbeard

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2008, 04:44:10 AM »
ok yeah that is the site i was talking about.
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slow67

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Re: Picked up a new project, have a couple of questions.....
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2008, 10:28:24 PM »
Alright, figured it out sort of. My hull is delaminating....sort of. Apparently just below a layer or 2 of glass, between the gunnel and stringer, there is a layer of foam. It is soaked in water, and has caused it to delaminate. Should I replace the foam and glass over or should I just reglass without the foam and add a few extra layers??
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