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sportinwood

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water problem
« on: April 18, 2010, 08:53:53 PM »
Need some input. fiberglass is lifting  in my motor area and water is able to get in toward the front of the boat. Rains basically filled up a good 4" and im assuming mold has formed underneath the floors. I have lifted the boat up to drain as much as possible, but im afraid that wont solve the problem. The boat feels likes it has gained 200 pounds and i can hardly lift or move the boat like i used to. Should i fix the fiberglass and call it good or do i need to strip the boat down to see what it looks like. the boat is a '78 hallett 21'. Thanks for reading.
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Luckie Stiff

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Re: water problem
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2010, 08:57:52 PM »
You have to do it right. End of story. Pull the motor & interior, find all the wet/rot repair or replace as needed, seal it up right and you'll be golden.
Well, I guess you don't have to do it right, you could half ass it like so many other people in the world and ruin a very nice boat, your call.

BTW, welcome to SCJB  ;)
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Re: water problem
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2010, 09:34:24 PM »
X2, do it right so someone else doesn't have to fix a mess later.  Chances are the reason its still heavy is because theres flotation foam under the floor, its wet now and will stay wet.  The moisture will cause the floors and supports to rot.  You have a big job ahead of you, but do it now before the damage grows and your floor looks like this.  This one was so bad that little piece of 2x4 was all that was left of the center brace.  This is one that someone just kept fixing the leak and never did it right, get the wet wood/foam out.

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Re: water problem
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2010, 09:54:14 PM »
Man... That floors NASTY! Wonder what dumbasss bought that boat!  :-\   :banghead:  Id do it right and check for rot as well. I thought my floor was in decent shape until we found that mess under the carpet!
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Re: water problem
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2010, 10:49:08 PM »
Man... That floors NASTY! Wonder what dumbasss bought that boat!  :-\   :banghead:  Id do it right and check for rot as well. I thought my floor was in decent shape until we found that mess under the carpet!


 LOL, This dirty guy is the owner, and he took the bad news about his "new boat" like a man.  He jumped right in there and chopped it out.  When you going to start a build thread for this thing.  I got PICTURES !!  ;D

 DIRTY SuperDuty !!!
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sportinwood

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Re: water problem
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2010, 08:16:25 AM »
thanks for the input. looks like this weekend will be work and no play on the river. next question, who can i call for an estimate / direction. or can this be done myself. I have never dealt with fiberglass or pulling the floors on a boat.
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Re: water problem
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2010, 08:29:34 AM »
thanks for the input. looks like this weekend will be work and no play on the river. next question, who can i call for an estimate / direction. or can this be done myself. I have never dealt with fiberglass or pulling the floors on a boat.

It's a big job, there's no getting around that, if you don't think you can do it, or if you get into it and find yourself up against a wall, you can call GS Marine in Corona (951) 272-6060 or call Ron @ (951) 681-0949. Or if you feel up to it, there's plenty of knowledge here, don't be afraid to ask questions, it's how we all learn. Good luck.
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Re: water problem
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2010, 08:44:36 AM »
hmmmmmm.......
"The boat feels likes it has gained 200 pounds and i can hardly lift or move the boat like i used to."

i got that problem too!!

my cruiser is still running , im gonna wait out the season, and tear into mine as well

if your gonna do it post up pictures please, so we can all follow along....and if you drop it off some where, see if u can get updates with pictures too....thanks in advance!
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Re: water problem
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 11:31:52 PM »
wait tell you see how much they want for a gallon of resin and mat????
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Re: water problem
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2010, 09:08:17 AM »
if you have basic tools and a brain you can do this your self like skip said.they make ton of books on fiberglass repair,or just ask.
make sure you do get the right kind of wood though.
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Re: water problem
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 09:46:09 AM »
so i decided to find out just how much water was under my floors the past weekend. found about a gallon or 2. got it out. how do i know if there is any damage or not? There was no foam or a lot of non-fiberglassed wood for that matter and it all looks ok, but i will be posting pictures when i get home so you guys can get a visual. just had my motor rebuilt so i probably wont have enough dough to replace the floors / fiberglass this season.  :banghead:

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Re: water problem
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2010, 01:02:15 PM »
Pictures would be a big help.. If you want a visual just rip up some carpet and have a look. I was told before I started my new sub floor to hit it with a hammer.. If it sounds solid you might be ok. Mine sounded like I hit a dead body. Well... atleast what I would imagine a dead body would sound like!  ;D
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Re: water problem
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2010, 01:23:24 PM »
well i ended up doing exactly that...i pulled some carpet back and cut a hole and vacuumed out some water that was in the bottom. planning on patching the hole back and deal with it in the off season.
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Re: water problem
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 07:56:47 PM »
Just a thought, in your first post you said the boat feels like it gained 200lbs and you could hardly lift it like you used to.  Now I see that you just had the motor rebuilt.  Is the motor back in the boat ??  With no motor in there the bow of the boat will be way heavier then it was with a motor in there.  :-\
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Re: water problem
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2010, 08:23:38 PM »
planning on patching the hole back and deal with it in the off season.
if you know your hull has issues i would repair them before you hit the water
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Re: water problem
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2010, 10:03:32 PM »
Ralph, that is one ugly mess of a hull  :thumbdown:
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Re: water problem
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2010, 02:12:45 AM »
if you know your hull has issues i would repair them before you hit the water


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Re: water problem
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2010, 07:28:37 AM »
propless- i lifted it with and without the motor. i thought about that too when the motor was out. the outside of the hull is good. im worried about the inside. i have my camera with me, but forgot the adapter at home.  :banghead:  :thumbdown: so after work ill post em up.
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Re: water problem
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2010, 09:31:20 AM »
if you know your hull has issues i would repair them before you hit the water


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Re: water problem
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2010, 04:43:05 PM »
well i finally got my pictures figured out. first pictures are facing toward the back of the boat. There is a little bit of water settled in there. The pictures toward the end are the very front of the boat where most of the water was stuck. Nothing looks horribly wrong to me where i need to immediately fix something. Let me know what you guys think.
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Re: water problem
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2010, 06:47:04 PM »
I'm thinking if you dry it out really good, and I mean good. Hit the wood with a bleach/water spray and let it soak in and dry, you should be good, keep an eye on the areas that got wet and make sure you give them a chance to dry out every so often, you'll be fine.
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Re: water problem
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2010, 06:48:24 PM »
when the boat was full of water did it leak out
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Re: water problem
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2010, 09:33:03 PM »
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Hit the wood with a bleach/water spray

would that be in a spray bottle with 50:50 ratio?

and i had the boat lifted with the cherry picker for about a half day. Water seeped out for most of the time i had it lifted. I found most of the water in the very front of the boat when i cut back some carpet/flooring. There is a support piece that held the water up there (how it got it, not sure). This shit is pretty hard to explain sometimes.  :banghead:
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Re: water problem
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2010, 09:45:12 PM »
50/50 in either a spray bottle or a hudson sprayer should do you just right
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