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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2014, 09:26:45 PM »
If these are Coast Guard approved tanks they will be baffled, fuel slosh should be non issue, besides, 10 gallons of gas weighs about 75 pounds...

Smooth up the destroyed fin with a grinder, bet it improves in a big way... To much drag.

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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2014, 09:28:40 PM »
Is there a plug at the front of your stingers? Should be centered, pull it and you back plug then jack the boat up should drain a ton


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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2014, 09:31:14 PM »
Yeah I'll smooth that fin out I actually forgot all about it till I took the pics. Also the boat does hold very much water I always drain it after I take the boat out.


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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2014, 09:31:33 PM »
Is there a plug at the front of your stingers? Should be centered, pull it and you back plug then jack the boat up should drain a ton

I think his floor is just a simple piece of plywood dropped between the stringers.. he would know right away if there was water...

Just my thoughts...

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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2014, 09:32:20 PM »
Lol thats exactly what it is


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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2014, 09:41:40 PM »
Holy crap That boat must have Hella power to do 70 with that broken fin...

You might as well go WFO toss the anchor during deceleration and ask the same question. 
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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2014, 09:44:24 PM »
Does the fin help with loading the pump at all?


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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2014, 09:46:22 PM »
Does the fin help with loading the pump at all?


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Not that one.....  :-\
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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2014, 09:59:15 PM »
Lol damn!


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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2014, 03:49:53 PM »
Ill come over and we can bondo a new fin for that broken piece lol jpjp ;)

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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2014, 10:42:09 PM »
So I took all my stereo stuff out of my boat and put 50/50 mix of 92 octane fuel and 110 race gas, hit 75 on the gps, really fun I'd like to go faster but don't want to until I figure out why the damn thing sinks down and gets so squirrelly. I slowly decelerated from 75 this weekend and the boat sunk down real hard and banked right. BTW This is after I smoothed out the broken fin. Any other suggestions?? One guy told me to put the diverter all the way up before I decel and then decel and hit the gas a little then decel again to help make the boat slowly decelerate all together. Still need to try it...
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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2014, 11:03:17 PM »
Any ride plates or anything?
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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2014, 11:15:46 PM »
Well, I think I have a good news bad news thing for you....

I know why your boat does what it does.... Had to think about it for a little while, but found the answer while looking closer at your pictures....


You need to reset your intake.   :thumbdown:  If you look at the picture of the side of the intake that looks like it was involved in a tragic shark attack incident, you will see how low the rear of the intake is.... Somebody blew it when they set that dealio... It is high in the front, acting like a parachute on a hard shut down...

So now, what you need is a new/good used intake, machined for a shoe and to be reset properly. I would be willing to go out on a limb and say that if you held a long straight edge up to the bottom of the keel all the way back to the transom, the lowest thing is the heel of the intake, this is incorrect.

Wish I had better news...

But now you have a reason to remove the busted up stuff...  :thumbup: Silver linings, I like silver linings...  ;)

I'm thinking winter time project.  8)

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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2014, 11:34:17 PM »
Damnit! I never noticed that, however I did notice that the intake had been reset at some point in time because of the bolts and the sealant around the intake bolts. How much do you figure a shop would charged if I disassembled everything and brought it to them with nothing in it except a new intake to put in? Once they set it I would reassemble everything...
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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2014, 11:44:59 PM »
I have no idea what labor rates are in your area.

I can tell you that this is an 8 hour job, give or take, providing there is no structural fiberglass damage during the removal process. Getting them out SUCKS...

If I had to throw a number at it, $600-$800 with about $100 worth of materials, worst case.

When you get the chance, can you get a picture of a straight edge on the keel from the transom forward?

I don't need it, just for my own ridiculous curiosity  :-\

Fairly certain this is the issue... What part of Oregon are you in? I have a ton of friends on the south coast. May be able to call in a favor.

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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2014, 01:51:16 AM »
For sure I'll try to get a picture of it tomorrow I live in Beaverton, OR its 20 minutes outside of Portland. Do you think that with the intake being like that it could possibly be helping load the pump?


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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2014, 07:38:43 AM »
For sure I'll try to get a picture of it tomorrow I live in Beaverton, OR its 20 minutes outside of Portland. Do you think that with the intake being like that it could possibly be helping load the pump?


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Yes. Which is why I recommend installing a shoe. A shoe will have a shaper entry, not like that bull nose on that intake.

It looks to me like that thing is taking a very big bite.

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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2014, 01:30:55 PM »
Heres some more pics of it. Sorry I don't have a straight edge small enough to fit between the trailer and the back of the boat. But on looking at it closer it actually looks like it might be ok. It seems to be even with the back of the


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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2014, 01:40:23 PM »
Heres some more pics of it. Sorry I don't have a straight edge small enough to fit between the trailer and the back of the boat. But on looking at it closer it actually looks like it might be ok. It seems to be even with the back of the


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Man that is one sloppy install. I would still say it is biting on the outer edges of the intake at the heel.  Could just be the angle of the pictures...

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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2014, 01:53:44 PM »
Yeah if you cant figure out that front lip sticking down below the bottom and that doesnt look right to you you should put the boat down and step away slowly

75 on the gps hella impressive with that setup
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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2014, 03:04:37 PM »
That "front lip" that your seeing doesnt actually stick out below the intake. They're the exact same depth the pic just makes it look like it has a lip. Just out of curiosity if the intake angle was cause the parachute effect would't an aggressive loader do the same thing if not worst?


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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2014, 03:08:23 PM »
That "front lip" that your seeing doesnt actually stick out below the intake. They're the exact same depth the pic just makes it look like it has a lip. Just out of curiosity if the intake angle was cause the parachute effect would't an aggressive loader do the same thing if not worst?


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Yep.

Which is why it should be above the keel line.

That intake is not right.  Just can't tell if the picture is making it look worse than it actually is.
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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2014, 03:08:56 PM »
No ride plate?

What pump setup do you have? Trim adjustment? Electric jetovator?
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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2014, 03:15:06 PM »
No ride plate?

What pump setup do you have? Trim adjustment? Electric jetovator?

12JC, no plate, late manual Place Diverter, no loader...

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Re: Submarine on deceleration
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2014, 04:06:28 PM »
12JG no ride plate new manual diverter.


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