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David B

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Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« on: September 08, 2008, 04:14:32 PM »
I am still learning  about this  boat. looking  into the pump  theres a three bladed inducer. Is  this   for  quicker  ETs. I am trying to  find out   what the boat was built  for. Heres  the  picture links http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/454thunderbox/Eliminator%20Jet%20Boat/CIMG0001.jpg http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/454thunderbox/Eliminator%20Jet%20Boat/CIMG0005.jpg
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Ralph Brunt

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2008, 05:22:51 PM »
i dont see an inducer, all i see is the impeller. as for the loader you will need to take it out or get a better pic
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2008, 05:42:37 PM »
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Ralph Brunt

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 05:52:43 PM »
not too sure about the loader, tom from jet boat performance would know, why do you want to know about the loader. have you used it yet
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They are all fukin tasty. My long time favorite, "Dirty Dicks -beerjet-
Glasscutter, Skip, OC2  Nordie and many more nail me good every time, relentlessly, I love those guys!

GT Jets

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 05:56:33 PM »
If that is the impeller    I seen   then its SS 
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/454thunderbox/Eliminator%20Jet%20Boat/CIMG0018.jpg




Yes it is a ss, thats a descent loader too, normally guys will work the hell out of those loaders shaping them and such, there's some good stuff in there....make sure that loader is through bolted through the intake (nuts on the topside) they tend to work loose, they are only threaded into cast aluminum...Just my opinion.

Nice piece.

GT
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
  • Boat #2: 19' Bubble deck Jet BBC Berkeley
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 06:03:37 PM »
I have not  had the boat  that long and I am trying to find out all I can from it. The  last owner  knew  nothing  about  it   he  could not  even  tell me if it  had an electic fuel pump on it..He  did  say  the guy  he  got it  from said the motor  was a 496ci bbc. I am learning  as  I go.
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2008, 06:08:23 PM »
Hey  GT    It  looks like they had  4 screws  holding the loader on. one was about ready to fall out.   Is there a way   I can get to the nuts  on the top  side.
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 06:12:01 PM »
  Is there a way   I can get to the nuts  on the top  side.

I use double jointed Chimpanzees and a box of Band Aids O0

Seriously if the engine is mounted rearward its a bitch, I have a heavily modified box wrench for this.
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
  • Boat #2: 19' Bubble deck Jet BBC Berkeley
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 06:34:58 PM »
If I'm not mistaken, that loader was made by GTH in Pacheco, Ca.(NorCal-SF East Bay) back in the 80's(?). GTH was a long time advertiser in Hot Boat. He was a former Berkeley employee who made a number of specialised castings for use in Berkeley pumps. Being I lived 5 minutes away, I was sorry to see him close up shop a couple years ago.
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 07:29:52 PM »
If I'm not mistaken, that loader was made by GTH in Pacheco, Ca.(NorCal-SF East Bay) back in the 80's(?). GTH was a long time advertiser in Hot Boat. He was a former Berkeley employee who made a number of specialised castings for use in Berkeley pumps. Being I lived 5 minutes away, I was sorry to see him close up shop a couple years ago.

Hey Oldsquirt, I was thinking the same thing but GTH was pretty proud of their stuff (they labled everything) and I did not see any evidence, the pump in my little boat is 90% GTH, had the loader but it didn't work on my boat, nice stuff actually.

I've got their shaft, impeller (ss A), stuffer, hand hole cover, and gland press, all of says GTH, this loader is very similar, but not sure.

Tommy just put one in the little Sanger (if memory serves) and it looks close.
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
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Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 07:53:31 PM »
Hey Oldsquirt, I was thinking the same thing but GTH was pretty proud of their stuff (they labled everything) and I did not see any evidence, the pump in my little boat is 90% GTH, had the loader but it didn't work on my boat, nice stuff actually.

I've got their shaft, impeller (ss A), stuffer, hand hole cover, and gland press, all of says GTH, this loader is very similar, but not sure.

Tommy just put one in the little Sanger (if memory serves) and it looks close.
Good memory Glenn , Thats correct and .... I think its (the Gth loader) the source of some of my "porpoise like frikkin Flipper" problems >>> more after I finish the Pork chile verde (its Mexy nite at the Casa  ;D) Tom
and .... some interesting "gossip" re GTH later  ;D stay tuned  ;) 

Ralph check you email  :o
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GT Jets

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 07:56:25 PM »
Tommy check the Sanger thread ;D

more after I finish the Pork chile verde (its Mexy nite at the Casa  ;D)

Does that mean there will be moonlight music later?

« Last Edit: September 08, 2008, 08:08:55 PM by GT Jets »
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 08:30:30 PM »
Tommy check the Sanger thread ;D

Does that mean there will be moonlight music later?



if Fox news qualifies  ;) had my share of "mariaches" (sp) at San Antonio week before last thanks , crazy 'bout the food , I
'll take rock and roll anytime
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realHawaiianJet

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 09:57:18 PM »
Let's get some more info and pictures of the boat!!! If you post pictures, these guys can, usually, tell you anything you want to know about it. Sounds to me (based on what you have shown) like you got a pretty good boat, regarding the Chevy 496 and the Berkeley pump with a stainless impeller. What kind of hull is it? Have you had the boat in the water, yet? If so, how does it run?

Just keep reading and asking questions, and these guys will get you straightened out. That's how I've learned. ;)


BTW, Tom at JBP is, by far, one of the best people to deal with, in the industry. Very knowledgeable and always willing to help whenever he can.

Good luck. :)
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2008, 09:44:02 AM »
Thanks Patrick ! ;D

This is what that GTH cast loader looks like (this ones being modified), Jurys still out I think I'm going to switch ours out this week due to "percieved" handling problems on the Sanger ...

Re Bolts ANY loader should be overdrilled and thru bolted period ! ALL loaders need to be checked and trimmed/tuned to the boat! this is critical folks. We regularly see Loaders with blades hanging down well below keel ,especially the socalled "river racer" type  :screwy: a mis-adjusted loader can/will hurt your performance and can cause Mad handling and dangerous problems

We use sell Black oxide 5/16 NC and nylocks ,occasionally Stainless

« Last Edit: September 09, 2008, 09:48:58 AM by jet boat performance »
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David B

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2008, 10:34:00 AM »
Let's get some more info and pictures of the boat!!! If you post pictures, these guys can, usually, tell you anything you want to know about it.

video is  worth more  then  picture. I have not  had jetboats before  so I dont  know  how  they handle. Heres  3  short  videos  that my  brother  took.


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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2008, 03:11:01 PM »
Bring the roost down a bit . It looks a bit high and usually bringin it down will cure your porpoising problem . Not too much of course .

-beerjet-
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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2008, 08:59:20 AM »
Could the porpoising be due to the loader, like in Tom's case, instead of the diverter being up? Because in one of the videos, it looked like it did it even when the diverter was down a little more.
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2008, 09:41:35 AM »
Thanks  Guys. So   whats the  best  way to trim and tune  the loader?? I dont  want to destroy it. And Brad  I need to  get a Gland seal and  the tool  to remove it I read  you have the good ones in stock? Berk 12jc-a  pump. Would a Droop help?  The  boat has  a bow mounted  fuel  tank  and not the  two side tanks. Thanks  I am  learning !
« Last Edit: September 10, 2008, 02:13:46 PM by David B »
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2008, 12:28:47 PM »
Update.  I bought a stock rock grate. The  other  loader was a GTH toploader. My  question is  How  long of  allan head bolts  do I need.
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Oldsquirt

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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2008, 01:25:50 PM »
The stock bolts were 1/4-20 x 3/4" long flat head.

If the loader was through bolted, you will have to figure out length by the amount of room you have under engine.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2008, 01:32:38 PM by Oldsquirt »
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Re: Can anyone tell me what kind of loader this is
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2008, 08:48:34 AM »

Re Bolts ANY loader should be overdrilled and thru bolted period ! ALL loaders need to be checked and trimmed/tuned to the boat! this is critical folks. We regularly see Loaders with blades hanging down well below keel ,especially the socalled "river racer" type  :screwy: a mis-adjusted loader can/will hurt your performance and can cause Mad handling and dangerous problems

We use sell Black oxide 5/16 NC and nylocks ,occasionally Stainless (we start around 1 3/4 long and cut to fit)


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