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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: steves86ta on March 14, 2016, 01:38:43 PM
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Anyone have any pictures of a detailed Dominator bowl?
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Stand by lol
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Detailed dominators
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Detailed dominators
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Thank you Sir!
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Detailed dominators
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Those look awesome, is that B1's handy work?
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Steve, it's funny I went from that Dom bowl to the detailed berk and now probably going to look for another Dom bowl (detailed) for my new build lol
Ugh one step forward two steps back haha
Are you going to give detailing that bowl a shot?
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Those look awesome, is that B1's handy work?
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yup yup 👍🏻 2 of the photos are the bowl on the black boat, the black bowl is another one I found.
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yup yup 👍🏻 2 of the photos are the bowl on the black boat, the black bowl is another one I found.
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They look killer! What kind of gains do you think one could expect just going from that same bowl with no detailing, to the type of detailing your showing here?
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They look killer! What kind of gains do you think one could expect just going from that same bowl with no detailing, to the type of detailing your showing here?
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for what stark has mentioned a stock dom is better than a worked berk.
Gimme that BECKY!
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They look killer! What kind of gains do you think one could expect just going from that same bowl with no detailing, to the type of detailing your showing here?
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The gains would likely be in ET only. Going out on a limb, boat for boat, no other changes or enhancements, .05 to .10 seconds. 1000 foot.
JMO
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Here are some pictures of my dominator bowl that I just got from b1 racing detailed front and back
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Steve, it's funny I went from that Dom bowl to the detailed berk and now probably going to look for another Dom bowl (detailed) for my new build lol
Ugh one step forward two steps back haha
Are you going to give detailing that bowl a shot?
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I def noticed an increase going to the Dom bowl over the Berk bowl i had.
I really dont know, i wanted to see some pics and then think about it. Maybe havent decided if im going to try to detail it or not
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The gains would likely be in ET only. Going out on a limb, boat for boat, no other changes or enhancements, .05 to .10 seconds. 1000 foot.
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interesting... probably not worth the time in my deal
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Here are some pictures of my dominator bowl that I just got from b1 racing detailed front and back
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that thing is a work of art man! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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that thing is a work of art man! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
. Ya I thought the same thing thanks
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. Ya I thought the same thing thanks
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chris and joe are getting at it with that CNC. Joe is definitely having a blast
Gimme that BECKY!
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chris and joe are getting at it with that CNC. Joe is definitely having a blast
Gimme that BECKY!
This is very true lol. I talked to Joe on the phone yesterday for a bit. He seems very happy. And they are turning out some sick ass stuff
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interesting... probably not worth the time in my deal
Depends on whether or not you're getting beat by a tenth. Lol
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Depends on whether or not you're getting beat by a tenth. Lol
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half ass ls powered river boats dont see a track lol! I can throw a bigger nitrous jet in and get that tenth lol
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I def noticed an increase going to the Dom bowl over the Berk bowl i had.
I really dont know, i wanted to see some pics and then think about it. Maybe havent decided if im going to try to detail it or not
Yeah knowing what I know now I woulda stayed with the berk lol
I'm probably going to sell my whole pump with ratchet and bronze impeller soon though and start over with the tx
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for what stark has mentioned a stock dom is better than a worked berk.
Gimme that BECKY!
That's what I was afraid of, time to look for another Dom bowl lol
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Here are some pictures of my dominator bowl that I just got from b1 racing detailed front and back
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That looks so bad ass! Do they clear powder the milled parts? Wonder what they look like after some use
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A box stock Dominator bowl w/o stuffer plate replaced one of our best detailed Berkeley G bowls w/stuffer plate on 418, Chris's Daytona. This boat was very consistent, running 8.0 its first pass off the trailer at Firebird.
Chris concluded that the two were very close. He did say, "It (stock Dominator bowl) didn't tug down the engine quite as hard" as the fully detailed Berkeley. I attribute this to turbulent flow not building pressure quite as fast, however the number was there.
Another case, a fully-detailed Dominator replaced a fully-detailed Berkeley on a deadly consistent 9.0 second gullwing. The boat ran consistently .15 seconds quicker with the fully-detailed Dominator bowl, requiring reprogramming of the electronics to again run the number.
Granted, these are not back-to-back repeatable tests, it is a fair analysis.
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A box stock Dominator bowl w/o stuffer plate replaced one of our best detailed Berkeley G bowls w/stuffer plate on 418, Chris's Daytona. This boat was very consistent, running 8.0 its first pass off the trailer at Firebird.
Chris concluded that the two were very close. He did say, "It (stock Dominator bowl) didn't tug down the engine quite as hard" as the fully detailed Berkeley. I attribute this to turbulent flow not building pressure quite as fast, however the number was there.
Another case, a fully-detailed Dominator replaced a fully-detailed Berkeley on a deadly consistent 9.0 second gullwing. The boat ran consistently .15 seconds quicker with the fully-detailed Dominator bowl, requiring reprogramming of the electronics to again run the number.
Granted, these are not back-to-back repeatable tests, it is a fair analysis.
Good enough for me. I'll leave my shit alone lol
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Good enough for me. I'll leave my shit alone lol
The bowl you scored comes out the nicest of all the bowls we do. (Sorry Brian)
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The bowl you scored comes out the nicest of all the bowls we do. (Sorry Brian)
I need to get the boat leaving harder then I'll see how much to have ya lighten it
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I need to get the boat leaving harder then I'll see how much to have ya lighten it
Attention to detail, my brother!
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The bowl you scored comes out the nicest of all the bowls we do. (Sorry Brian)
Haha thanks Joe, figured I shouldn't of sold it but glad Steve is enjoying it
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So is that type of bowl considered the "new style" dominator that everyone wants? I may just get a new one from you guys at B1 when the time comes
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I have wondered about the amount of veins in a bowl and how much that really plays into things? I have a 8 vein dominator bowl that I picked up from Tom at jet boat performance when I picked up my boat... Those bowls in the pick look like 9 vein? But I've hard 11 vein? Just curious?
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I have wondered about the amount of veins in a bowl and how much that really plays into things? I have a 8 vein dominator bowl that I picked up from Tom at jet boat performance when I picked up my boat... Those bowls in the pick look like 9 vein? But I've hard 11 vein? Just curious?
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I don't know the differences. But I only count 8 veins in all of the ones in this thread
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Chit? Sorry fat ass fingers... I meant 8 veins... Same as the bowl I have?
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Chit? Sorry fat ass fingers... I meant 8 veins... Same as the bowl I have?
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I'm not an expert. But my dominator bowl is 8 vein too
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For me I picked up an early dom bowl from Jake. Tim at Place turned the outlet to match the droop, and I bolted it to my JC pump. Didn't do anything else to the bowl. I by no means have a high dollar engine, but I will tell ya, that thing launches like a mofo!!!!! Big difference Just my .02 cents worth
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There is a 9 vane bowl that I have from Aggressor, I was never impressed by the actual end of day performance, but I will tell you it held the engine down harder (shown as a loss of about 100rpm) but never saw a increase in top speed (never tested for ET because it was a marathon boat) and I always wanted to use a smaller impeller to get the rpm back to see what it would do, never had the time or the funds.
600 horse 468 in a 600+/- pound 18' aluminum tunnel.
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Pump detail.
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All I know is when I went to B1 the last time. I was talking to joe. And I guess I have an older style bowl. Not the early small exit one. But the in between one. It has the flat edge machined into it
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Here's how my veins look
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Here's how my veins look
Looks good in there 👍🏻
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Looks good in there 👍🏻
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Thanks. I'm gonna rock then how they are
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Boost has the older style that I was talking about. If you will note the shape of exit side vanes compared to that of Jake's (new) Dominator bowl. The vanes are longer and have a slightly different contour. They were available with different shapes on the outside, one radiused and one with several angle cuts. The water lubricating bowls are less desirable.
Here is a picture of an unmodified grease lubricating "old style" Dominator.
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Boost has the older style that I was talking about. If you will note the shape of exit side vanes compared to that of Jake's (new) Dominator bowl. The vanes are longer and have a slightly different contour. They were available with different shapes on the outside, one radiused and one with several angle cuts. The water lubricating bowls are less desirable.
Here is a picture of an unmodified grease lubricating "old style" Dominator.
SO mines an in between one then?
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For being a river boat the new pump setup I have now performs much better then my stock deal I'll never see .15 seconds gains as a race boat would at the track by having a more desirable Bowl. Lol
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Mine is a water lubricated bowl? Cons? Pros?
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For being a river boat the new pump setup I have now performs much better then my stock deal I'll never see .15 seconds gains as a race boat would at the track by having a more desirable Bowl. Lol
You have the good one now