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My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« on: July 02, 2011, 10:00:49 PM »
Where do I get a new motor assembly for a TRIM A JUST settup?  The Berkeley website says it is no longer availible.  I would also consider going to a manual settup, and just getting rid of the TRIM A JUST all together. I don't know if I can do that with my JE pump, but I would if I can. Until then, I "need" a new motor asembly, so any help would be great! Thanks, Rick
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2011, 10:14:30 PM »
try craigslist put a wanted add out. or try ebay there are a few boat that do nothing but ebay all there stuff. good luck! and there is always try taking the motor to a starter shop and see if the guy or gal can rewind it or fix it?????
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2011, 10:24:09 PM »
Where do I get a new motor assembly for a TRIM A JUST settup?  The Berkeley website says it is no longer availible.  I would also consider going to a manual settup, and just getting rid of the TRIM A JUST all together. I don't know if I can do that with my JE pump, but I would if I can. Until then, I "need" a new motor asembly, so any help would be great! Thanks, Rick

Post up a pic of what you have. If it's what I think it is, it's just a power window motor from any 70's early 80's passenger side GM vehicle. That is if it's JUST the motor. I'll get the part number from one of mine in the morning. They're in the shed, it's dark, and I don't wanna right now.......You can look at your motor and it should have a GM part number either cast into the aluminum part or in the plastic cover part.  :sly:

You CAN just switch it to manual. But really depends on what you have. IF you have the JF version of the Jet-O-Vater, not so bad, new longer cable and manual handle will work fine. Cheaper, and easier to rob a power window motor from PIck-a-Part, or even new. Good news is passenger side windows, especially the back ones from like a 4 door, station wagon or Suburban. aren't used that much and should be in pretty good shape.  ;)

Obviously, best solution is a Place Diverter, which are made for the JE/JF pumps, but a WHOLE lot more expensive than fixing what you got. Yeah, they're better, giving better range, more "roost" ability and handle better, but a roughly $650 solution (That is a bargain basement price)

Ray
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2011, 10:27:23 PM »
I heard somwhere that the motor is a power window motor from the passenger side of a 75 Cadillac DeVille. Not sure if this is true?, but if it is, I would think that one would be availible at NAPA, or AUTOZONE, ETC.ETC. Mine is out of the boat, and when connected to a 12 volt source, it just makes a buzzzing sound, so I am pretty sure it it dead. The gearcase spins freely. The brushes, and armature of the motor itself look fine, but for some reason it will  not turn. There are none on ebay right now. If anybody has a fix for this let me know! Its 4th of July weekend, and my boat is down as of 9:30 Saturday night!
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2011, 10:37:22 PM »
I heard somwhere that the motor is a power window motor from the passenger side of a 75 Cadillac DeVille. Not sure if this is true?, but if it is, I would think that one would be availible at NAPA, or AUTOZONE, ETC.ETC. Mine is out of the boat, and when connected to a 12 volt source, it just makes a buzzzing sound, so I am pretty sure it it dead. The gearcase spins freely. The brushes, and armature of the motor itself look fine, but for some reason it will  not turn. There are none on ebay right now. If anybody has a fix for this let me know! Its 4th of July weekend, and my boat is down as of 9:30 Saturday night!

Yeah, it sounds right. '75 Deville used the same power window motor as a '75 Malibu, Chevette, Vega or anything else GM made in the '70's and through, I think, '84.......just so you know.  And no NOT necessarily available at Auto Zone or NAPA. Pretty old there. You're into "classic restoration parts" now for them. 

I'd pull the motor, you have a square drive or 8 point socket? Try turning it over manually without the motor. The device could be jammed, or the short cable from the unit shot, a lot of things. Sounds to me like the motor is trying....... ;)

Again, pictures would help.  As it so happens, I have a couple, working, laying around I could be talked out of.  The ones I have though are the ones set up to work with a trim guage.

Ray
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2011, 10:55:18 PM »
You can use either drivers or passenger side, just need to reverse a couple of wires... ;)

mid 70's GM power window motor..

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2011, 11:03:14 PM »
You can use either drivers or passenger side, just need to reverse a couple of wires... ;)

mid 70's GM power window motor..

GT

Very true. But it WILL change the orientation of the motor, I think, so if there are any clearance issues, just be aware.

Ray
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 06:55:47 AM »
Internet was down all day her eyesterday, so that ended any more online help. Anyways, I took the motor apart, cleaned up the armature, and brushes, even though they did not look very bad. Put it back together, and it worked a little bit. took it apart again, lubed it up, and adjusted the "end play" settup on the gearcase housing, and it ran fine. I ran it for a while in both directions to seat the brushes properly, and put it back in  the boat. After all this I discovered I had another problem. The high, and low limit switches are not working,--allowing the motor to jam the whole works into the housing either all the way up, or all the way down. I was able to use a jumper wire off of the starter solenoid to get the trim back into a mid-way position without tearing it apart again. Long story short, We used the boat all day yesterday and only moved the trim around a little bit just to keep the boat from plowing. Boy do I miss my rooster tail!!! I'm sure I will get it all figured out this week, and since both high and low swithes quit working at the same time, it is most likely just one problem.

   Also, if anybody ever needs the motor for one of these, there is a GM/DELCO part number on it, and all the major parts houses have them----not in stock, but they can order them and have them in 1-2 days.  They are about $55, with a $15-$25 core charge.
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 07:22:15 AM »
If it turns out you decide you want the entire unit , I belive Josh has one that is in good working order , he has talken it completley apart ,cleaned  inspected, adjusted and retested it  Tom
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 07:30:16 AM »
Thanks Tom.  I think I am going to try and come up with a manual settup, but as long as I can get my current settup working properly, the manual convert might end up being an "off season" project.  Seriously,--- we only have about another 1 1/2- 2 months left around here!    Isn't that sad??!!
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 06:23:06 PM »
Got it all worked out!
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2011, 11:47:45 AM »
have any pics of this thing mounted up? I have one and going to be installing it soon, any and all pics would make the job a lil easier
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Re: My TRIM A JUST MOTOR is dead
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2011, 06:25:15 PM »
Sorry Toxic, no pics. I can't figure out how to post pics on this website for some reason. However, the actual "trim a just" motor/gear drive assembly can mount anywhere, as long as the cable to the outdrive reaches, and has smooth bends.  Mine is up high on the inside of the transom behind the motor. The gear on the outdrive is all Berkely trim a just system parts. I don't know for sure, but I think you have to use all the correct outdrive gear for whatever pump you have. Mine is a JE-A. I have modified mine quite a bit by grinding the steering housing, the reverse bucket, and relocating the control cable mounts to allow the nozzle to be angled up way, way farther than a stock settup. It now throws about as big a roost as anything I have ever seen. Let me know how it goes, and if I can help.
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