Need help with place diverter! Please

« **on:** December 15, 2016, 08:00:07 PM »

Try to make this easy. Bought my new jet boat a few months ago and the guy didn't know much. I have a Berkeley 12-JE pump with a diverter on it. I think it's a older place diverter without the ride plate. So the guy didnt have the diverter controls or something and made a bracket to keep it in a fixed position. Cpperformance thinks it may be a diverter for a JC or JG pump and may bind with new brackets.I ran the boat and it steers fine and doesn't bind. My question is can I buy the upper and lower control arms and add a hydraulic pump without it interfering? Is there any different between the nozzles other than the the control brackets? Basically if the diverter nozzle the same specs other than the bolt on upper and lower control brackets? I have pics of it. Any help is greatly appreciated. I just want to see if I can buy the 2 brackets and hydraulic setup instead of buying a whole new setup. Thanks guys

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« **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2016, 08:29:30 PM »

Is that lower arm below the bowl the steering? I don't see what actually actuates the diverter trim. Does the nozzle freely move up and down?

Yes, you can just add the hydraulics and the appropriate arms.

Call Place directly. Cash will get you the best deal.

« **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2016, 08:32:47 PM »

You can probably scare up and make enough stuff to make that work.

In all honesty, you will be better off buying a kit specifically for the JE pump.

I would not know where to start with what you have going on.

GT

« **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2016, 12:43:46 PM »

Quote from: Flusher on December 15, 2016, 08:29:30 PM

Is that lower arm below the bowl the steering? I don't see what actually actuates the diverter trim. Does the nozzle freely move up and down?

Yes, you can just add the hydraulics and the appropriate arms.

Call Place directly. Cash will get you the best deal.

Yes it moves freely up and down after I removed the black bracket. If you at the last pic I have the bracket off and a jack stand holding it up level

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« **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2016, 12:50:00 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on December 15, 2016, 08:32:47 PM

You can probably scare up and make enough stuff to make that work.

In all honesty, you will be better off buying a kit specifically for the JE pump.

I would not know where to start with what you have going on.

GT

They sell all the brackets for the JE pump diverter in the event you break or lost the parts. Mine is a bit older so I wasn't sure if it would work, or if it's the wrong model.If I buy the 2 brackets and a hydraulic kit, it's $550. For a full new kit for a JE I'm looking at $1000 after shipping and tax. I was going to order the brackets first to mock it up and if it doesn't work, return em and lose $35. Just thought I'd put it out there and see if anyone new for sure before I buy parts.

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« **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2016, 04:23:16 PM »

Quote from: Flusher on December 15, 2016, 08:29:30 PM

Is that lower arm below the bowl the steering? I don't see what actually actuates the diverter trim. Does the nozzle freely move up and down?

Yes, you can just add the hydraulics and the appropriate arms.

Call Place directly. Cash will get you the best deal.

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« **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2016, 04:52:26 PM »

I missed how the black bracket locks out the diverter in your earlier pictures.

It's possible that the way your existing steering and reverse cable are, they will interfere with the hydraulic cylinder. You may be looking at buying an E steering arm, E/LPS control arm, E/LPS reverse bracket, E/LPS reverse gate, and possibly an E steering plate. If you replace all that, you will still have the old grappling hook style nozzle. I'm not really familiar with how your steering is run, you may have to monkey with that as well.

http://www.placediverter.com/home/product-category/place-diverter-parts/

« **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2016, 06:59:26 PM »

Quote from: Flusher on December 16, 2016, 04:52:26 PM

I missed how the black bracket locks out the diverter in your earlier pictures.

It's possible that the way your existing steering and reverse cable are, they will interfere with the hydraulic cylinder. You may be looking at buying an E steering arm, E/LPS control arm, E/LPS reverse bracket, E/LPS reverse gate, and possibly an E steering plate. If you replace all that, you will still have the old grappling hook style nozzle. I'm not really familiar with how your steering is run, you may have to monkey with that as well.

http://www.placediverter.com/home/product-category/place-diverter-parts/

Still say, better off buying the whole enchilada.

I really dislike the old style nozzle.

You may be able to sell off the stuff you have to offset the cost.

I'm too old and tired to screw with this sort of stuff any more.

If you have the energy, more power to you.

GT

« **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2016, 10:34:34 PM »

Thanks for the insight guys. I'll talk to the guys at place diverter.I'm a hands on kinda guy and like working on the boat and doing fabrication if need be. I'd love to buy a new one but, like a lot of us I'm on a budget. Don't need a giant roost but if I can get a working diverter for half the price with a little work, I'll do it. If you guys come across anyone with a12JE place diverter or parts please let me know!
Thanks

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« **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2016, 10:57:34 PM »

Quote from: 427taylor on December 16, 2016, 10:34:34 PM

Thanks for the insight guys. I'll talk to the guys at place diverter.I'm a hands on kinda guy and like working on the boat and doing fabrication if need be. I'd love to buy a new one but, like a lot of us I'm on a budget. Don't need a giant roost but if I can get a working diverter for half the price with a little work, I'll do it. If you guys come across anyone with a12JE place diverter or parts please let me know!
Thanks

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You would almost be better off converting it to top tiller and cables.

Used JE Diverters are as rare as a pretty AMC car.

GT

« **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2016, 11:18:20 PM »

Ha, it seems to be my luck I get the projects with the hard to find parts. I emailed place, see if they know if I can salvage what I got

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« **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2016, 11:20:45 PM »

Quote from: 427taylor on December 16, 2016, 11:18:20 PM

Ha, it seems to be my luck I get the projects with the hard to find parts. I emailed place, see if they know if I can salvage what I got

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Tim can salvage ANYTHING! .

He's very helpful and straight up.

GT

« **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2016, 06:00:20 AM »

Quote from: GT Jets on December 16, 2016, 10:57:34 PM

You would almost be better off converting it to top tiller and cables.

Used JE Diverters are as rare as a pretty AMC car.

GT

The AMC Javelin wasn't to bad lol
Just saying GT

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« **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2016, 08:10:11 AM »

Quote from: GT Jets on December 16, 2016, 10:57:34 PM

You would almost be better off converting it to top tiller and cables.

Used JE Diverters are as rare as a pretty AMC car.

GT

That reminds me, an old friend of mine restored a Javelin. That thing hauled the mail. He let me drive it one night and that shit was fun. It was a manual and he took it to the track a lot. To bad he sold it. Cool car.

« **Reply #14 on:** December 27, 2016, 04:27:35 PM »

FYI if anyone comes into the same situation the new place diverter parts WILL work on the older diverter just fine.

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« **Reply #15 on:** December 27, 2016, 05:27:23 PM »

Quote from: 427taylor on December 27, 2016, 04:27:35 PM

FYI if anyone comes into the same situation the new place diverter parts WILL work on the older diverter just fine.

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Sweet.

GT

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