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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 09:59:03 AM

Title: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 09:59:03 AM
What are the pros and cons of a set back jet ? Is it worth the money to do it ? O0
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: MADSKILLZ on November 15, 2007, 11:43:34 AM
Some boats work better with the pump set back and some dont.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 12:19:41 PM
what will happen to mine 19'daytona
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 12:59:28 PM
and is it worth the money ?
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: MADSKILLZ on November 15, 2007, 01:39:09 PM
I have seen alot of 19'daytonas with set back pumps. Basicly it is a set up to go fast. It puts less of the boat in the water. I had a 18' hondo t-deck with a set back jet and it was set up for drags basicly. It did not turn but it was a rocket going strait. The nice part about a set back pump is if you suck up something in the jet your inspection cover is outside the boat! I dont know how much it will cost you because my boat was already done.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 01:42:17 PM
to reset the intake and move the pump 2500$
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: MADSKILLZ on November 15, 2007, 01:47:18 PM
Ouch! That seems like alot of money. I would just do it myself. :)
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 01:50:26 PM
im pretty new to this stuff so id rather not mess with it
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: FORKEDUP on November 15, 2007, 03:00:05 PM
seems like a hell of a lot of $$$$$, shouldn't the diverter do the same thing (get the boat out of the water)????
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 03:03:17 PM
i dont know  ??? a couple of people have told me i need to chenge the intake if i want to go fast i guess this one is for skiing ?
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: FORKEDUP on November 15, 2007, 03:22:35 PM
can you get a picture of where yours is at in relation to the back of the boat and i will compare to mine
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 03:25:52 PM
yup one minute
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 03:37:03 PM
heres a couple it looks like its about 1.5" off the floor
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: FORKEDUP on November 15, 2007, 03:42:41 PM
i am heading home right now, so i will check mine when i get there, but am pretty sure that my intake is set back further to the rear than yours, will let you know
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 15, 2007, 03:43:31 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: FORKEDUP on November 15, 2007, 07:55:55 PM
ok from the back of the boat to intake is 3 1/2 inches, not sure if this will help or not, but maybe give you something to go on, how far forward is your motor? (putting more weight to the front), mine is 6 1/2 inches off the back off the boat to the back of the block (where mount is mounted), like i said, don't know if this will help or not :)
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 16, 2007, 04:59:26 PM
 :-\ well the back of my intake is 7" from the rear of the boat and the block is 11" so now what ?
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 2savage4you on November 16, 2007, 05:03:37 PM
:-\ well the back of my intake is 7" from the rear of the boat and the block is 11" so now what ?


SELL IT !

 I offer fitty bucks >:D


2sav
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 16, 2007, 05:20:11 PM
let me finish it first then you can buy it for 50$ ;D
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 2savage4you on November 16, 2007, 05:26:54 PM
let me finish it first then you can buy it for 50$ ;D


Ok sounds good ;D

But then you will be boat free, sooo...... you can have the brown boat, The Platipuss ;D

or do you still have the four winns


2sav
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 16, 2007, 05:31:08 PM
i still have the four winns if no one buys it by next summer im just going to use it as a trade in on a new boat
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: Blue on November 16, 2007, 07:11:16 PM
Hey Erik I called you a few times to help you with redoing the floor and seats etc. Give me a call
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: FORKEDUP on November 16, 2007, 08:54:49 PM
where is tom? he might be able to tell us what the differences will be between my set up and yours and what type of gains you would see if you reset your intake or if there is a more cost effective way of achieving the same end result ???
ohhh tom, come out come out wherever you are ;D
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on November 17, 2007, 05:02:23 AM
Hey Erik I called you a few times to help you with redoing the floor and seats etc. Give me a call
pm me your # blue
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: TIMINATOR on December 09, 2007, 07:46:27 PM
We do setbacks all of the time. $2500 seems REAL pricey. Call me. 623-877-8553  TUF-ENUF Marine    TIMM  P.S. I have a 19 Daytona with the pump set waaaay back.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: cyclone on December 18, 2007, 07:56:22 PM
2500 bucks is nuts for a set back.

MPD charges about 1,000 i think.

i dont see why any jet boat out there wouldn't benefit from a set back intake.

things to consider about setting yours back. with most intakes, you can machine the back of them to allow for a larger set back without breaking through the wood in the transom all the way. but, that still puts the hand hole cover right under the transom in a lot of boats depending on the angle of the transom. This means you'll need to fab a transom adapter that curves around the hand hole cover if you still want to be able to remove it.

Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: crewchief22 on December 18, 2007, 08:28:43 PM
The hand hole cover on my Hondo is nearly against the transom and is impossible to use.  Its easier for me to remove the grate for access.  Only problem is its got to be on the trailer.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on December 19, 2007, 03:58:45 AM
thanks cyclone
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: cyclone on December 19, 2007, 08:23:19 PM
no problem.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: UNDONE on December 21, 2007, 04:07:43 PM
Set it way the fuck back there Erik. After the upcoming funeral I'll ask Dave what he and the rest of his racing buddies have figured out to be the best setup for a 19' Daytona. You can't beat feedback from all the top record holders....
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on December 24, 2007, 05:19:05 AM
thanks dude
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: SLCKREG on December 24, 2007, 08:10:03 AM
For what it's worth, on my 21 ,Tom(jbp) set it back just barely far enougph to get the cleanout out the back of the boat. I haven't tried to use my cleanout yet,(looks like it is still useable) he had to notch/grind the back of the cover to make it fit. BTW it was far less than 2500.00
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: hotrod56cars on December 24, 2007, 10:13:31 AM
seems like a hell of a lot of $$$$$, shouldn't the diverter do the same thing (get the boat out of the water)????

A diverter doesn't change the position in the hull of where the pump gets it's water from and where the boat rides at W.O.T. whereas a setback pump changes both.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: Brendellajet on January 03, 2008, 12:16:32 PM
Two of the biggest advantages of the setback are the potential to gain space in the interior and get the cleanout outside of the boat. Some boats wont like the motor moved back, but my 21 doesn't care at 85mph...
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: UNDONE on January 03, 2008, 05:36:42 PM
plus, the potential for less wetted surface... Just do it. $2500 is high. If you're boat doesnt behave well the the engine and pump set back so far, then put the engine back up a couple inches and lengthen your drive line a little.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on January 03, 2008, 05:48:06 PM
Thanks for all the usefull info guys
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: Brendellajet on January 04, 2008, 07:17:17 AM
And definitely do it yourself. I've done two, getting ready to do a third. Its easy. reseach it(hopefully hotboat comes back...) or we can get something started here.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on January 04, 2008, 11:47:33 AM
thanks agian everyone but ive found someone to do it for me
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: UNDONE on January 04, 2008, 04:19:08 PM
good to hear you're gonna do it. When are you gonna be at infinite? I might make a stop up there to check out your truck and drop some stuff off to steve.
Title: Re: Set back jet
Post by: 82daytona on January 04, 2008, 04:45:59 PM
ill be there tomorrow (saturday )
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