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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2008, 10:15:42 PM »
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2008, 10:22:31 PM »
 Just a mock-up shot but heres what I got so far  :-\ .

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #77 on: April 08, 2008, 10:59:07 AM »
This is the only pic that has the same underslung diverter I have. Seeing how I have to start drilling holes in the transom adapter, I'd really like to see underneith that swim step and see how the cables are routed.

Josh, any other pics you can share? (Or if someone else can post the same style so I can see the cables.....)

Your diverter is a Low profile system as oposed to the one on my glastron which is an "E" style diverter.  As you can see they took the reverse cable concept from the E diverter and applied it to the LPS(with slight variation).  The LPS is most common for use under swim platforms, so the platform does not have to be cut out for the cable/s.

On the E pump (glaston) the reverse cable goes straight back in to the hull, through the bello right above the steering cable.  On the LPS the cable is intended to be re-routed to the port side of the transom adapter to create an S bend.  The cable ataching point on the LPS is also about an inch higher than the one supplied with the E version, to better alow for the cable routing over the bowl.

Heres an advertized picture of the LPS

cyclone

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #78 on: April 21, 2008, 04:25:12 PM »
my current configuration...
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #79 on: April 21, 2008, 04:27:34 PM »
thats a crazy bowl extension....are your studs that long?
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #80 on: April 21, 2008, 04:30:26 PM »
after taking another look.....your diverter adjustment is static and you have a hydraulic controlled bucket...crazy setup man.... i want a ride!  >:D
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #81 on: April 21, 2008, 05:00:56 PM »
my current configuration...

Very Cool! nice setup

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #82 on: April 21, 2008, 05:13:10 PM »
thats a crazy bowl extension....are your studs that long?
now there you go getting all gay on us. :-*

nice set up
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #83 on: April 21, 2008, 05:57:26 PM »
now there you go getting all gay on us. :-*

nice set up
This is what my dads working with built by GS marine, need to install the ride plate.

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2008, 05:59:13 PM »
I'd be looking into building a guard for that thing when its on the trailer.  I feel like people are aiming at my jet when towing and that thing has got to hang out at least 2' farther than mine.

Looks bitchen.
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #85 on: April 21, 2008, 07:59:27 PM »
my current configuration...


So what is that canister that replaces the inlet cover for? I see it has a hose going to it - for engine breather possibly? Something else?
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #86 on: April 21, 2008, 08:01:39 PM »
So what is that canister that replaces the inlet cover for? I see it has a hose going to it - for engine breather possibly? Something else?

its a pop off valve....its for drag race application....it relieves pump pressure on shutdown
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #87 on: April 21, 2008, 11:33:50 PM »
That's on the inlet side, so I assume it is really to help the shaft not snap and not really for the pump per se? am I close?
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #88 on: April 21, 2008, 11:41:39 PM »
That's on the inlet side, so I assume it is really to help the shaft not snap and not really for the pump per se? am I close?

on shutdown (expected or not)...either the impeller stops (ie blown motor) or slows down to a speed too slow to allow water to pass though at high speeds....this causes back pressure to be built up in the suction housing and cause wild results at high speeds. because that water being forced into the pump has no where to go and will lift the back of the boat out of the water and cause violent bow steers. that valve relieves that pressure automaticly (at a designated pressure) or manually with an override button.

i do believe these are required in some NJBA classes.

now the above statements might not be 100% accurate as I dont have any first hand experience with them, its just what ive learned from talking to some of the drag guys at the races. If anyone would like to chime in with any corrections or additional comments, feel free.
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #89 on: April 22, 2008, 09:21:49 PM »
thats a crazy bowl extension....are your studs that long?
they are about 7-inches long, which is enough for the extension and wedges should i need them.
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #90 on: April 22, 2008, 09:22:45 PM »
after taking another look.....your diverter adjustment is static and you have a hydraulic controlled bucket...crazy setup man.... i want a ride!  >:D

the bucket is actually air-actuated. same principal as a hydraulic cylinder but without the mess when it leaks.
i switched to a fixed nozzle angle because i didnt like the amount of play that is present in a brand new morse cable. I measured 13 degrees of slop in the nozzle when the handle was in any one notch. Not a good thing at high speeds. I switched to a hydraulic diverter with up and down stops to solve the problem but after realizing i didnt need to move the nozzle during a race i took the hydaulic system out. I only use the adjustable rod now to set the nozzle angle where i want it depending on water conditions. 
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #91 on: April 22, 2008, 09:23:29 PM »
Very Cool! nice setup
thanks josh and thank you for the intake cover. i put it on the trailer today and it works great!
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cyclone

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #92 on: April 22, 2008, 09:26:32 PM »
So what is that canister that replaces the inlet cover for? I see it has a hose going to it - for engine breather possibly? Something else?
the cannister has a piston inside that closes off the hole where the handhole cover would normally go. Its air actuated so when i have 125psi inside the can it pushes the piston down. If inlet pressure spikes above that or if i think the boat is doing something i dont want it to, i hit a button of my steering wheel and vent the excess inlet pressure. It makes slowing the boat down from 125 mph much easier and it also enables me to hang the shoe down below the keel pretty much anywere i want without the boat hopping badly on shut down. Its called a pop-off.
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cyclone

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #93 on: April 22, 2008, 09:27:27 PM »
I'd be looking into building a guard for that thing when its on the trailer.  I feel like people are aiming at my jet when towing and that thing has got to hang out at least 2' farther than mine.

Looks bitchen.
no kidding. i hate towing in traffic because i'm always worried someone will rear end me and total the boat.
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cyclone

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #94 on: April 22, 2008, 09:28:47 PM »
on shutdown (expected or not)...either the impeller stops (ie blown motor) or slows down to a speed too slow to allow water to pass though at high speeds....this causes back pressure to be built up in the suction housing and cause wild results at high speeds. because that water being forced into the pump has no where to go and will lift the back of the boat out of the water and cause violent bow steers. that valve relieves that pressure automaticly (at a designated pressure) or manually with an override button.

i do believe these are required in some NJBA classes.

now the above statements might not be 100% accurate as I dont have any first hand experience with them, its just what ive learned from talking to some of the drag guys at the races. If anyone would like to chime in with any corrections or additional comments, feel free.

that's a good explanation of how it works.
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #95 on: April 22, 2008, 10:50:39 PM »
thanks josh and thank you for the intake cover. i put it on the trailer today and it works great!

 Intake cover  ???  Whats this secret part all about ?   If it keeps debris out of the pump while towing , I need some info about one !!
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cyclone

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #96 on: April 24, 2008, 11:17:29 AM »
Intake cover  ???  Whats this secret part all about ?   If it keeps debris out of the pump while towing , I need some info about one !!

Its not a secret. i'll snap a pic of it next time im in the shop. its a canvas cover that goes between the trailer bunks to cover the intake up. it keeps rocks and stuff out of it when i'm towing to the river and back. I got it from the cool cats at jet boat performance.
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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #97 on: April 24, 2008, 02:05:18 PM »
Not mine, but I dig it either way.
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hotrod56cars

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2008, 02:12:29 PM »
Another one that I like, painted and asembled I think by TRG Fiberglass, I'm going to be copying a little bit of this one as well...
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hotrod56cars

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Re: this place is dead. lets see the back of your boat
« Reply #99 on: April 24, 2008, 03:20:39 PM »
Another one that I like, painted and asembled I think by TRG Fiberglass, I'm going to be copying a little bit of this one as well...
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This is not TRG's work, I was mistaken...  ;D
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