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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2010, 10:10:37 AM »
Relax....I was done...inside drinking my beer and went back out to snap a couple more pics. 

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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2010, 06:50:05 PM »
Welcome to the site....Just concerned ;D
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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2010, 12:51:59 AM »
Pump ran great at the Tom Papp deal....comes out the hole HARD. 

I fired the boat to run it 20 feet up on the trailer at the end of the day and had a strange groaning/whining noise. 

Tore the pump down again tonight.  Impeller looks good, wear ring looks untouched, bowl bushings look good, thrust bearing is somewhat audible turning the shaft by hand.  The "wiggle" test with the impeller on the shaft showed .032" of clearance between the impeller and wear ring...which is a bit concerning.  I cut the impeller before I had the ring, so I guess I deserved that.  I was gonna yank the motor anyway...and it's easier than dealing with silicone on the transom plates, so I'll pop it apart and disassemble the bearing to see if something looks strange. 

I used valvoline synthethic grease, per the A/T website...about 60 pumps or so....till grease was puking out of the bearing.   Installed the driveshaft and wiped up the excess.  I dunno.  Koyo is a good bearing.  Can't imagine that it failed this quick.  I turned up a little spacer to use on the press when installing the bearing on the shaft so only the inner race was loaded...snap ring is snug against the bearing too.  Maybe it's not the pump but I can't find any thing else that might make noise. 
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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2010, 07:55:23 AM »
Pump ran great at the Tom Papp deal....comes out the hole HARD. 

I fired the boat to run it 20 feet up on the trailer at the end of the day and had a strange groaning/whining noise. 

Tore the pump down again tonight.  Impeller looks good, wear ring looks untouched, bowl bushings look good, thrust bearing is somewhat audible turning the shaft by hand.  The "wiggle" test with the impeller on the shaft showed .032" of clearance between the impeller and wear ring...which is a bit concerning.  I cut the impeller before I had the ring, so I guess I deserved that.  I was gonna yank the motor anyway...and it's easier than dealing with silicone on the transom plates, so I'll pop it apart and disassemble the bearing to see if something looks strange. 

I used valvoline synthethic grease, per the A/T website...about 60 pumps or so....till grease was puking out of the bearing.   Installed the driveshaft and wiped up the excess.  I dunno.  Koyo is a good bearing.  Can't imagine that it failed this quick.  I turned up a little spacer to use on the press when installing the bearing on the shaft so only the inner race was loaded...snap ring is snug against the bearing too.  Maybe it's not the pump but I can't find any thing else that might make noise. 

Depending on how much time you have on the bearing, I would say it is "possible" it was over greased and overheated...

Without touching, tasting and smelling it, that is what I feel could have happened.. ;)

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

lbhsbz

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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2010, 09:27:27 AM »
The bearing has less than 30 minutes of use.  The strange part is...while beating on it all day there was no noise, even while cruising across the lake there was no noise.  Only at idle when I fired it back it did I hear some noise. 

I'll have it with my pasta for dinner tonight and see how it tastes.
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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2010, 06:20:52 PM »
The bearing has less than 30 minutes of use.  The strange part is...while beating on it all day there was no noise, even while cruising across the lake there was no noise.  Only at idle when I fired it back it did I hear some noise. 

I'll have it with my pasta for dinner tonight and see how it tastes.

I think you are hearing driveline noise...Mine used to do it before I started using my secret weapon.....It could be the "slop" in the splines and just giving you an audible run conformation...Somewhat normal. ;)

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Ray

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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2010, 06:44:18 PM »
..X 2 ! :thumbup:
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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PM »
I heard the typical driveline noise when idleing through the no wake zones...this was different...quite a bit more pronounced.  I thought I'd make it home early enough today to light it up with the pump disconnected, but I didn't.  I'll play with it saturday.  If I don't hear anything I'll put the bowl on (no impeller) and hook things up and see if that makes noise. 

It's very strange...I dunno.  The bearing is cheap...I'll replace it again anyway just to be safe.
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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2010, 08:54:38 PM »
This thread....brings to mind a guy running a lathe....alone after hours.
He had been drinking, this happened about 10yrs ago.
Fkn guy falls into the turret/chuck........end of story.

Can't f/around with equip. like this :thumbdown:

I work at a big ass machine shop and my boss sent us these just to remind us what could happen and to watch our asses.If this is too much brad delete it please...

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Re: Blowed up pump autopsy...and the rebuild
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2010, 05:00:41 AM »
a very hard lesson learned :(
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