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Thank you folks for all your knowledgeable input here, I do appreciate it.  Another quick question, were the original Berks enamel, epoxy, powder coated, ????
The bowl is at the media blaster in town now, when he calls me I'll get to clean up the inner vane work with a port/polish kit, the casting is a little roughly done, just want to smooth the vane to bowl transitions a little. Then I'll paint or coat it.

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Folks, I am taking my JE housing down to get it blasted clean, then coated/painted.  What I'd like to inquire is, what do you recommend painting/coating it with?  Brand, # of coats, type of primer, etc, etc.  What do you think or recommend on this?

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Anybody Running Procomp heads?
« on: February 27, 2014, 02:43:06 PM »
Amen, absolutely a great video.  I DO run a set of ProComp BBO heads.  These I bought bare casting.  I did the port work, matching and a little deburring, mic'd the guides (OK), took the heads to my machinist.  Had Pat mill the heads .0015" for truing, and set the RA for the gaskets.  I also handed him a new set of Farrea 2.07" Intakes and 1.71" Exhaust stainless 1 pc valves which I had him set the seating angles at 45 degress as opposed tio the normal 30.  I then set the heads up with Comp Cams springs, retainers and locks and seals and guide plates and studs.  The block is studded and have Diamond 11.88:1 custom forged pistons.  My cost on all this is still less than a set of Ebrocks that would need massaging. 

I do agree whole-heartedly to never buy & bolt out of the box equipment for any engine or trans, or drive unit.  Take your time, measure EVERYTHING 2or 3X.  Make sure the equation will work.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Boat fixin
« on: February 21, 2014, 03:02:07 PM »
Between doing the stringers and interior in addition to the motor and pump, when the wife let's me have the time, I also am about to start w/ a contractor on the master bath. AHHHhhhhgggggg!!!!!!!  This shit never ends!  I set the externals on the motor early last summer to take some measurements and it looks pretty good.  I just gotta wait till I get it in there for real to set the driveline angles and measure for the thru transom headers from Bassett.  Here's what it looked like on the mock up.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Boat fixin
« on: February 21, 2014, 08:41:45 AM »
After making love to a calculator for awhile, and my calculations with swept volume, head flow, temp, etc, etc, etc.  the numbers are pushing 545HP/565TQ off the bottle and with a 100 shot of N2O (and the damn thing holding together) around 650/650, all between 5500-6000.  Pushing an A2 with an inducer and SS loader on a Berk JE. :banghead:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Boat fixin
« on: February 20, 2014, 10:18:08 AM »
Sweet!  It's nice to see Oldsmo-bubbles rockin' the water again.  I'm steadily assembling mine this winter too.

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Jet Pumps / Re: Maxium HP and RPM's for aluminum impeller?
« on: February 07, 2014, 06:09:45 AM »
Thanks abunch flusher........now to convince the wife.....Hmmm :o

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Jet Pumps / Re: Maxium HP and RPM's for aluminum impeller?
« on: January 30, 2014, 06:17:08 AM »
I've got a Berk JE with a new 17-4 shaft and inducer and am looking for an SS "A" impeller.  You say B-1 racing?  Do they have a website or phone #?  I couldn't fine them on the web, but probably just me.   :banghead:

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I was interested in enclosed engine compartment Thru transom headers as well.  I realize that virtually all with knowledge say no but how are the offshore guys able to get away with it.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Mild 468 Olds build
« on: January 23, 2014, 06:04:04 PM »
Nah! She was a 2 door, all steel, 10pt roll cage, 400hp shot of N2O, back halved and big tired w/ wheelies.  My way in was 3980lbs.  She was about 5 colors of primer and Emeron blue.....found out that I ain't that good at body work so I stuck to what I am good at.....drivetrains.  I love Olds just because of the fact that everyone thinks ".....it's fathers' Oldsmobile".  Funnier 'en hell when the poor bastards in Chevys, Putz-stangs, Mopars were left on the line when I dropped the trans brake and two step and 200hp of nitrous carried the front wheels out and 80ms later another 200 of N2O kicked in and wouldn't let me set the fronts down till after the 60" mark.  Just love the torque monster Olds-mo-bubbles.  This new engine has 76cc chamber heads, roller hydraulic Lunati voodoo cam, Harland Sharp rockers, gear drive, Diamond pistons......etc, etc, etc.   

It's just fun as hell to stay out of the mainstream and still kick ass and take names. >:D

This Glastron's got a JE pump, SS loader, 17-4HP shaft, Billet inducer, "A" SS impellar, Hydraulic place diverter, Hot foo pedal, seating for five + a 36 qt cooler, + approx.535HP/585lbs.tq.

Fun fun fun     I just need a set of thru transom headers for it.........oh the fun

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Mild 468 Olds build
« on: January 23, 2014, 02:29:27 PM »
I take Andy's advice with a grain of salt.  He does go off on you'll blow up if you don't...    The last conversation I had with him, he wanted me to run (have braized into my oil pan) cooler pipes with which to run my cooler water from the oil cooler assembly to better assure a cooler temp. :screwy:  Much of my advice has come from many of the BBO's & SBO's I've built and had both successes and failures with, also a few friends.  Before moving to Illinois from Va, I ran a '76 cutlass with an 1100HP nitrous fed 468 turning in mid 9's.  Bill Travato and Joe Mondello have given me a ton of advice from which I have cured many failures or prevented them.  I realize not everything is applicable to many of the milder mills out there, I just have the shittiest luck in the world. And with me, I am a pessimist.  I plan for the worst and hope for the best, so if the worst happens, I'm prepared, and if the best occurs, hey, a benefit.  I don't mean to push anyone into anything they don't want to do.

I teach for Chrysler Technical, so as far as picking a good truck, the Rams are nice and reliable, but remember, there is no such thing as perfection, every manufacturer has hiccups and inherent failures.

Here are some pics of my mill going in my Glastron CV21.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Mild 468 Olds build
« on: January 23, 2014, 10:08:38 AM »
You are doing a lot of ass u meing ! I don't see how you got the picture that he is re using those exact rods! I don't even think Stevie wonder would venture to re used them!
But you obviously think that was what his plans were!

And Andy miller...let's not get started on that subject!


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As for Andy Miller.  I know from multiple other forums that some people don't like the guy.  I will state that I have never been steered wrong or done wrong by him   YET.  Of course, I only purchase parts, he does not do any of my mill work or assembly or design.  That is where I think most people don't like him.  Just me though.  The parts I've purchased, A+ top notch.  No complaints.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Spark plug reading
« on: January 22, 2014, 06:55:40 PM »
Uh, just out of curiosity, but isn't that idling vacuum a weeee bit low for vacuum secondaries to pull open?  Has the secondary vac. spring been changed out to a light more reactive one?  Just curious. 

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Mild 468 Olds build
« on: January 22, 2014, 06:40:45 PM »
Alright, let's not make this a pissing match about all this.  I'm stating from my experiencethat the OE rods are not as strong and a a weak link.  In regards to GlassCutter's response with the PHR article, I've read it also.  Gotta remember one thing, those types of magazines are not by any stretch of the imagination gospel or close to it.  Most articles are sponsored, in other words, someone got paid, so there is a percentage of bias that must be suspected.  A very good series of articles written by Joe Mondello, not by a magazine,            http://www.oldsmobility.com/oldsmo/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=385   
Also, this is a forum where we all try to help one another out.  I have never ever gone with just one builders recomendations, I've contrasted and compared build & engineering notes by multiple Oldsmobile builders.  Mondellos book costs $30.00 and is a wonderful resource, as well as Dick Miller's book, and a great one is Bill Travato of BTR Performance, his is about the same cost.  These investments are priceless when it comes to how many years these builders have been doing their magic.

Gentlemen, white flag, we're all here to have a good time and not put shots across each others bows.  Are we cool on this?

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Mild 468 Olds build
« on: January 22, 2014, 03:05:34 PM »
I have read every Olds hop up article I could find for years and RARELY does any pro recommend replacing the OEM rods.  On a motor that will never see 5000 rpm?  A set of rods will add 20% to the cost of his build.  Why would you advise this exactly?

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Who were the builders in those articles, someone who decided to build an Olds and got lucky?  Given that he's got many hours on that engine, at a mere minimum, he needs to have them reconditioned, which whill cost atleast half of what new H beams cost.  Good and reliable builders, such as Joe Mondello (God rest his soul), Dick & Andy Miller, and Bill Travato, and pretty much anyone who has built stout, reliable BBO's will tell you the factory rods have are a weak link and have a definitive life span in a car-in a boat it's shorter because of the higher RPM's.  I've built many SBO's & BBO's and, have had a rod failure bite me in the ass once 'cause I got cheap.  If you have a rod failure at high RPM's, and let's say it is under 5K, say your 4800, the potential for it or pieces to exit that assembly are high.  I wouldn't want that to happen in a boat because I don't think they make a bilge plug that big nor a pump that good.

And by the way, OEM rods, haven't been OEM since 1976 when the last BBO came off the line.  So how much fatigue do you think the rods he has currently have given the failure he just experienced?

Also, look at the picture of what was left of what appears to be a rod bearing----do you really think that rod is any good to use anymore?

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Mild 468 Olds build
« on: January 22, 2014, 10:07:55 AM »
In all seriousness, replace those POS I-beam factory rods with H-Beams.  The Eagle 6.735" bushed rod is affordable and very reliable.  Also, are you stabilizing the lower end with a halo or a girdle?  As big as the journals are, bearing speed, and amount of torque, I would at a minimum stud the lower end and put a 4 or 5 cap halo on it.  Tying in all the mains together is key so if any contortion were to try to occur, it's distributed across all the mains.  Dick Miller makes a great 5 cap halo kit.  Olds Performance Products has a good alternative to the pound in oil restrictors, drilled/threaded plugs w/ tap kit. 

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The BBO flow path is pickup, pump, filter, cooler, engine, sump.  This is why I was considering the cooler return line, Tee'd in, just before it re-enters the engine for dispersal into the bearing and lifter galleries.

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My only concern with in the pan is that it after it has pulled the heat from the engine, and is not the temp of the oil that it has pressurized in its veins, per say.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: need some cam help
« on: January 03, 2014, 02:14:08 PM »
I agree, what heads do you have and age on the rotating mass?  BBO are great motors but you can easily over cam them if you don't have the right internals or they are well worn.

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Folks,

The build up on my BBO is finally coming to fruition.  Diamond custom 11.88:1 slugs, Eagle H-beam 6.735 rods, fully worked pro-comp heads, Edelbrock Victor w/ 1050 DOminator up top, and the list goes on and on.  I'm still in the midst of milling and slathering in the new stringers for this boat ('75 Glastron CV21).

My question or rather poll is, where would you place your oil temp sensor on this critter?  In the oil pan (10qt) w/ a welded in bung?  Up by the oil pressure sensor on a "T" with the pressure sensor, or tapped into the returning from the cooler (cooled) oil line feeding into the engines pressure circuit, as this is what the engine is acutally using?  I'm kinda leaninng toward the oil cooler line circuit.........what do you folks think?

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 455 olds valley pan ?????
« on: November 14, 2013, 11:24:06 AM »
If you ditch the rubber end seals, don't use regular red, blue, or black RTV.  I would recomend using GMS (General Motors Sealant, or Chrysler Threebond)  They are assembly adhesives that will damn near seem as though you welded the two.  Biggest question is if the heads or deck were milled.  If so, then the intake must be milled to accomodate the change in angle/depth.  Mondello's book can tell you what the per .001" milling will change everything and where to take the measurement on the head to determine if they were milled any.  I have the book but it's not handy as I write this. :banghead:

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The No Wake Zone / Re: New to this forum and here's my project.....
« on: November 14, 2013, 11:13:00 AM »
Out here where I am, middle of the flippin' country, there aren't a whole lot of people with jet boats aside from all out drags, palce called Blarney's Island, 800' stretch.  However, suppliers of parts is difficult out here.  Has anyone dealt with ARS marine, or Performance Jet of Sevastopol, or Jet Boat Performance.  I do deal a good amount with CP Performance as I was recomended by my brother who races Mod VP nitrous outboards.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: New to this forum and here's my project.....
« on: November 14, 2013, 10:33:55 AM »
The cam profile is only in theory at this time.  More than likely as you advise, I'll be dropping the duration down somewhere 240-250@.050".  The injected headers I'm researching a pressure activated switching system.  I know that the pump loads and unloads linearly, and that requires a lot of torque to get it to happen.  The A cut I've got is virtually new, so, I'm going to run that during break-in and setting the tune.  The wife and I have an agreement on this project, what I spend on the boat, I also have to foot on her.  She'd better come back with something really good and not a 20,000 dollar Virsache purse.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: New to this forum and here's my project.....
« on: November 14, 2013, 09:24:12 AM »
Damn! I gotta check back more often to get the questions answered faster but here it goes......
1)  The compression ratio is calculative, stock compression distance w/ Diamond forged flat-tops w/ 3.2cc reliefs.  77cc chambers but, heads were decked to clean and set RA, and are now around 76cc.
2)  The Harland Sharp rockers are the best for any Olds engine on a budget in lieu of shaft mounted.  The have the best shaped pushrod cup out there- Crane has the worst.  I used to be a land-lubber w/ a 1400HP/830lbft. 468 in a 76 cutlass w/ a 4spd Lenco, pulled 9.73 @ 141 w/ a 3980lb car.
3)  The cam LSA (lobe seperation angle) of 112-114 degrees is less overlap than a 108 or 110, dropping the amount of reversion that occurs, not eliminating it, but lessening it.
4)  The headers, thru transom, I am contemplating moving their 4" outlets up about 11" from their stock location.  This would put them above the swim platform, but still well below the top of the transom.
5)  The procomp heads are a decent head for the money, and have plenty of material to work with on massaging the passages and port matching.  I've changed the valve/seat angles from 30 degrees to 45 degrees to pick up a little more on top end.  They don't flow as high as a thoroughly massaged set of Ebrocks, but do nicely.  The original Ga heads I've done a lot of work to but still need more money in them than I want to put.
6)  Because of the short suction housing is why it's necessary to assist feeding the impellar w/ an inducer.  I will be putting in, at a later date, a SS high helix impellar.  I just don't have 1300.00 for one right now.

My first jet was a '79 CVX 20 w/ a 460 and an E pump..........wish I hadn't gotten rid of her.  I got her for what the guy owed on it 8K, and only 16 hours.  Damn that first wife of mine.....bitch.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: New to this forum and here's my project.....
« on: November 13, 2013, 04:28:29 PM »
I'm leaning towards using 2 pcs. of 1"x12"x16' red oak, epoxied/bonded together, mill them to shape and epoxy those into the holes, then glass over the caps and then lay in the flooring, it too will be resined on both sides before installation.

Another quick question-  Does anyone know a supplier of the 4"x4"x3' foam that was under the floor?

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