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Projects / Re: 79 kachina project
« on: March 02, 2015, 11:09:20 AM »
Looking good, nice checker plate. Make sure you round that edge all the way around with some 120 grit and keep the edge about 1/8-1/4 inch back from the edge of the step. Stuff sharp, I found out the hard way on my old trailer.


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Lower River / Re: Red Rooster park
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:24:29 AM »

Red rooster in vegas is a swingers club lol

Atleast you know all the women are available.


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Jet Pumps / Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
« on: February 25, 2015, 06:18:41 PM »
Well if you can get ahold of a used mini droop it's worth a shot before you go and buy a full droop and ride plate


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Jet Pumps / Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
« on: February 25, 2015, 02:00:58 PM »
I don't think a turn fin will help you at all, try a mini droop. It will bring the nozzle down some but won't stuff it in the water. I had a similar hull and a full drop made it porpoise at cruising speed, only way I could make it stop was dropping the diverter or nailing it and it was never a problem before that. I was gonna go with a mini but never got that far. Sold it before I could try it. So I think a mini would help you lift it some more and help with your turning. Also, any slack in the steering cable or excessive play I'm the rack or anywhere else?


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Jet Pumps / Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
« on: February 25, 2015, 11:05:46 AM »
Well depending on your RPM in the picture and depending on how much gas was in the tanks the boat doesn't look too bad, with the diverter at full up you're basically trying to bury the rear end. So you can really can't rely on that pic. The best nozzle position for performance at speed is usually  between 1/2 and 3/4 up. Basically at that point where the roost is just above the water.

And as far a a better ride quality what are you trying to correct or improve on? Porpoising?


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Scoop opinions needed
« on: February 20, 2015, 07:35:51 AM »
I think it would look good but depending on the scoop height you might run into an issue. Check out http://www.up22.com/scoopw2.htm

Check out the 210, 266, and 714. All bottom mount scoops so you pretty much could just set it on top of the cover and bolt it to the cover.


Either way I say go for it


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 468 or 496?
« on: February 18, 2015, 09:24:37 AM »
To answer your questions flusher


Well...  Who built the 496?  The 468?

Jerry goodhall, he was a family friend who built all my grandfathers boat and drag car engines in the 80's and 90's. His work is something I would never question or doubt.

 Was there a post mortem done on the 496?  If so, what were the results?

First block split the crank at 4/5 and windowed the block, second time around I don't think there was really a way to find out what caused it but there were 2 broken rods, windowed 1/3 cylinders,cracked the block at #2 split the crank in 2 spots, bent the cam and munched a few pistons on valves.

Just thinking, assuming the tune was right...  Most strokers that I have seen use a Scat or Eagle crankshaft, and the vast majority use a cast steel crank.  Some even use cast iron.  As GT pointed out, those are better suited for tow trucks and not performance applications.  The longer the stroke, the less overlap exists between the rod and main journals, the more that crankshaft is going to flex.  Castings don't like to flex.

Internals were scat if I remember correctly and the 468 that's still alive are eagle.

 Was it internally balanced?  External balanced cranks flex more than internally balanced cranks because the because the counter weights on the damper and flywheel are not supported on both sides by a bearing.  What kind of damper did it have and was it in good condition?

The each rotating assembly's  were balanced pretty damn close and a new balancer and flex plate were used on each motor. He said the motors were good to 8k but all the head work and cam profile were set up for 2500-7k. The block was suppose to be over built for the operating range we were aiming for and the valve springs were a little heavy for the cam,to prevent floating and rings were gapped for bottle use.

What about oiling?  How did the bearings look?

Couldn't tell ya.

You didn't mention the pistons.  Did a piston break?  Were they cast or forged?

Forged and yah there were some cracks and breaks both times.

What about the rods?

They came with the cranks if I remember correctly so skat cranks with skat rods and eagle crank with eagle rods in the living motor.

What about the main caps?
Don't know what brand but they were both 4 bolt caps and I don't remember which one but one of the blocks had the outer bolts at an angle.


If I have to sweep up all the little pieces of my life's savings, I would want to know what went wrong. 

Well you and me both but I was fortunate enough to only have to pay labor on the 3rd motor.
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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / 468 or 496?
« on: February 13, 2015, 09:35:25 PM »
No disrespect, but those engines didn't scatter because they were 496s.

Well I'd like to know what caused it because the 468 I'm running now makes the same power and turns a little  more rpm and has lasted 5 years with the occasional150 bottle tap. Both 496's had less than a year on them with no bottle and nothing has changed on the car except the motor.


But I wouldn't take a stock 454 and go straight to a 496, if step up as needed like I said earlier to get the most out of the motor. But me personally, I'll never run a 496 again, bad juju for me.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / 468 or 496?
« on: February 13, 2015, 03:34:07 PM »
Sounds like an rpm kill. Both accounts.

I would recommend a 496 for a pull truck before a light car.

I would not turn a 496 harder than about 5,800 rpm.

Car torque is non linear, a 427 would be where I would have directed a Chevelle.  (Speaking strictly stroke wise, not total inches ).

Jet pump torque is almost perfectly linear, right up until cavitation occurs.

Feel me?

GT

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No joke, both times that happened were 1-2 shifts and the 1st time was around 6200 and the second was just under 6k. I was that ass that oiled the track and shut it down for an hour both times


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Jet Pumps / Re: Berkeley intake fin broke
« on: February 13, 2015, 01:44:25 PM »
Fix it unless you want it to slide on the water like a wet ass on a toilet seat


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 468 or 496?
« on: February 13, 2015, 01:02:18 PM »

Dogs in the bathtub or nothing bro.

I just ask because it's my opinion that a 496 has a little superiority over a 502.

That is if you're building something from blown up chit.

GT

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I blowed up 2 496's in my Chevelle. And I'm not talkin like pop done kinda blowed up, we're talking 1 piece stuff turning into multiple pieces and a couple windows kinda blowed up. I don't play around. So I put a healthy 468 in the car and it hasn't multiplied and parts yet and is doing fine. So to the op all bs aside. Build a 468 and when it pops then go up. Get more use out of the block that way.


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / 468 or 496?
« on: February 13, 2015, 11:09:17 AM »
Why?

Honest question.

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and I would say why 502 when you can go 540??? 😲


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Well hell, at 468 your playing with the tip at 502 your full on jerking but if your gonna go balls deep screw the 540 and just go 572. It's not like we're spending the money.


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 468 or 496?
« on: February 13, 2015, 08:49:59 AM »
468, wouldn't waste my time on a 496, just go to a 502


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Audio / best amps on alternator
« on: February 11, 2015, 10:03:34 PM »
It is the funky 6 rib serpentine pulley but on those the alternator had its own belt that ran from the crank so it's only a matter of switching the pulley and it's only a matter of a jumper wire if I remember correctly to make any alternator a "single wire"


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Audio / best amps on alternator
« on: February 11, 2015, 07:43:53 AM »
Like crew chief said it really depends on your plans but a alternator will only produce as much as needed so technically you can never have to big of a alternator but you can definitely have a alternator that doesn't put out enough. So it really depends on how much you wanna spend vs what you really need.

But if you are not afraid of a little electrical work and research a early to mid 90's caprice alternator may be your best bet. Just google "caprice alternator swap" and dig through a few forums. The caprice alternators are roughly a 140 amp alternator and are considerably cheaper than going out and buying a labeled "high output" alternator.


Edit: after a quick look it seems 90-93 alternators are a 120 amps and run around 100 bucks and 94/95 are 140 amps for around 140amps

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Engines / Engine Parts For Sale / Re: bbc tunnel ram $150.00
« on: February 10, 2015, 06:02:57 PM »
Square port or oval?


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Projects / Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« on: February 08, 2015, 09:46:51 PM »

If you're putting a subfloor in, putting drain holes in those bulkheads?

No sub floor goin in. The bilge separator has a brass threaded coupler in the bottom center of it to be used for a drain and the glass just has to be cut away from around it.  That way he can either put a plug in it or put a check valve on it.


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Projects / Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« on: February 07, 2015, 07:41:05 PM »
And now the blower motor goes in


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Projects / Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« on: February 07, 2015, 01:12:34 PM »
Now the sanding


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Project Boats For Sale / Re: FS: 1978 Spectra 20
« on: February 04, 2015, 12:46:57 PM »
You interested in a quad......


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WTB / WTB fiberglass scoop
« on: February 03, 2015, 01:09:06 PM »
Do you have a shot of the front opening area, does it come with the base and what's your price


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WTB / WTB fiberglass scoop
« on: February 02, 2015, 08:19:46 PM »
Just like the title says, looking for a fiberglass scoop.


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WTB / Re: Looking For Harman Marine Water Pump Plate 460 Ford
« on: February 01, 2015, 06:04:20 PM »
I have one laying around somewhere in my storage. I'm in riverside if your interested


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SCJB Featured Boats / Featured: Keith & Michelle's 1977 Hondo Pantera GT
« on: January 31, 2015, 11:18:57 PM »
Had it not been for that third pic if someone told me they saw you driving your boat I would of called them a lire..... Boat is awesome though, should definitely be a shirt worthy pic.


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Projects / Re: 1974 Hallett bubbledeck
« on: January 31, 2015, 04:40:33 PM »
Should measure to make sure they will fit


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