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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 11, 2009, 07:39:37 AM »
You have yoo much bowlift....Down wedge?

Do you have a ride plate? looks to me like a degree or two of down ride plate would do wonders.... ???

GT

Agreed Glenn, this thing carries the bow like a mutha and runs so dry it's wierd.  I'm not a big fan of the roost either and usually have run it in the 3rd from the top notch on my diverter handle which put the diverter inline with the pump.  The shot with Brian in the boat is actually one click down on the diverter. 

I do have a ride plate that's set 2.4 degrees in relation to the keel.  I don't have a wedge or droop.

The search for the good tune continues......   Thanks again...........john

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: September 10, 2009, 10:49:46 PM »
Here is some of my on board footage taken with my GoPro wide angle HD camera mounted to the dash of the boat. There are a few passes on the video that show how little the porpoise is when im goin flat out, with the diverter down some i have little to none at all.

Enjoy! Ian

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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 10, 2009, 12:12:30 PM »
And now thinking about it and this pic from a previous post of mine, you can see how high my boat is riding with the diverter down even more (check roost)



Hmmmmm,

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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 10, 2009, 12:02:08 PM »
Do you normally get to drive it solo like that, or with a passanger?  The extra weight of a passenger could make the difference between  porpoise and no porpoise.  Just a thought

Hi Josh,
I "almost" always am solo when I run it hard.  I did run it hard with Droppy in the boat so between my 6'3' 250lbs and Droppys 6'6' 290lbs weight, it definately stuck to the water better. 

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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 10, 2009, 08:37:48 AM »
Crap, didn't work again but NOW it does....





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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: September 10, 2009, 08:37:15 AM »
I think we'll try to rob the Brendella of the lines from my tanks to the tee and see if that cures it. That will give it full -8 througout the entire fuel system and make it comparable to mine (cept fo the regulators).  That should eliminate the uncertainty there.... 

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: September 10, 2009, 06:56:24 AM »
Yup, the exact reason I wanna swap out the rubber lines but we ran out of home stock AN fittings so we had to go with what we had.  I hadn't even considered the regulator but that would be a easy swap as we have a couple spares here in my box of goodies.

Thanks again Glenn and keep in touch

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: September 09, 2009, 10:41:43 PM »
Bust away Glenn. I'm still learning all this stuff. We're running a Holley :HP150 billet pump and a Holley regulator. Other than a short section of 3/8" rubber from each tank to a tee, its all -8AN to the pump, regulator and to the carb.
The reason I'm getting concerned is that it worked perfect leading up to the weekend and all day Friday. From that point on it has great pressure (8 or so (it drifts a touch)) until he leans on it. From the is lays down to less tha 2 pounds and the boat won't get up on plane,  Makes for a looong idle across that reservior.
With some time we'll swap out the last of the rubber lines as well but we just ran out of time. Besides, it was working fine up to Friday. Thanks for the help Glenn. Take care

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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 09, 2009, 10:30:57 PM »
What a dumbass, I had it set to private.  Now try it

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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 09, 2009, 10:21:53 PM »
RRRR, bring me the cabin boy and the boy butter.......whoops, too much info huh???

Here's a video Glenn



I cant recall if this pass is in the second from the top or third from the top on the diverter handle but you can see that about 6 seconds in, you can damn near see my intake.....


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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 09, 2009, 09:45:54 PM »
John is this a "hopping" or "porpoising issue" some thing new since last year?


Here's a short video. 6 seconds into it you can see that damn pump intake.  Unfortunately, when I was making the bulk of my passes, nobody was filming but we do have this one. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

It seems to be brandnew. Didnt seem to have it earlier in the summer and I'm sure much is due to the rollers that we all were dealing with BUT, everyone else seemed to be able to work thru it but me.  This was in the second notch from the top on the diverter. I also tried it on the third notch but that clearly was dragging the nose more. 







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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 09, 2009, 09:23:17 PM »
Okay, I'm a bit frustrated.  Seemed like over the weekend I couldnt keep the damn thing in the water long enough to keep it loaded.  As a recap, this is a Energized Panther with a SS AA impeller. No droop and the ride plate set at 2.4 degrees.

Any ideas of where I might be able to start???

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: September 09, 2009, 09:20:15 PM »
Thanks guys.  Yep, we're getting close.  Fighting fuel pressure issues though.  I hate to mess up those beautiful plates but I may need to clearance it so we can run a mechanical pump.  Measuring the Carter 170gph I have, we all we need is a slight slot to accomadate the wide flange and it would fit.  Get rid of that electric "is it gonna work or not" worry.


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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: September 09, 2009, 08:12:42 PM »
Here's some footage of a pass past me.  The water looks smooth but it has some rollers that drove everyone crazy.

This was with the diverter up and you can see the bouncing till he leans on it and then it starts to carry the nose.  Maybe a bit more power needed???  Obviously he could lose most of it by lowering the diverter or touching the plates but nevertheless, we're getting there..



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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: September 06, 2009, 07:24:53 AM »
Hah!  We're at the lake and he's running the piss out of this boat. So much so that he ran himself out of fuel at the other end of the reseviour!!!

He's getting definatley getting the hang of it and we continue to try different settings.

We have some onboard camera footage from his little helmet camera setup and we'll try to post that up when we get home. Thanks again Tommy and JetBoatPerformance. He's gotten nuthin but compliments (we have 144 boats here) and one guy wanting to buy it. What a great time.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: rotten foam
« on: September 03, 2009, 12:01:21 AM »


You guys keep laughing, but a big shop vac and a gas powered weed wacker always worked for me to get the old stinky foam out....Takes under an hour and you can go right down to the fiberglass  :thumbup:

GT

God knows I luv ya Glenn but that there is some funny shit!!!  Ian and I were rolling on the floor imagining you get-n-after-it with a weedwacker.......

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: August 30, 2009, 09:18:49 PM »
Skips Precision Marine in Redlands is a couple shops down from mine (I hang out over there at lunch to get away once in a while  ;D ).  Anyway, Skip and His Brother Troy ran Riverside Boat & marine in the 70's-80's and was the Sanger dealer in the area.  Both were involved with race boats at that time and might know something about it.  I''ll try to drag him down to the shop to show him some pics because he don't do computers.

That would be awesome! Thank you very very much for the effort!
Ian

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Projects / Re: Project 1979 Sanger Super Jet
« on: August 30, 2009, 06:20:21 PM »
 :thumbup:

Thanks again.........john 

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The No Wake Zone / Re: JBP mobile office
« on: August 30, 2009, 02:07:55 PM »
Congrats Tommy.  That looks like a really nice rig. The In-laws have a Flair as well.  Been a very good rig.


And for what it's worth, I worked at a RV place about 34 years ago.  Much has changed but the principals are the same and they're really simple to work on.  I've picked up, rebuilt and sold a number of them over the years and finally just splurged a few months ago for a new setup.


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The No Wake Zone / Re: so fuked!!...........
« on: August 30, 2009, 02:02:41 PM »
Crap!!! I'm really sorry to hear this.  This a a bummer of the thread but the way folks stuck together is a good testimate to the gang on here.  Best of luck on the next motor....

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: August 30, 2009, 11:48:46 AM »
The UFO had distinct similarities to my Older Sprint when I had them side by side BUT.. Josh and I still believe the keel for nearly the entire length of the hull is "dropped" about 1/4 to 3/8 inch, look real hard at the approximate 20 wide section of the center (betwen the Balsa sections ) to see this!  Harlan is by far the "man" but the person I was working with that gave me the most insight into this was Jeff Bennett (the guy is a boat bottom God) Tom


That's a good tip Tommy.  I hadn't thought of pestering Jeff about this.  I've pm'd Harlan and Billy B but will give Jeff a try as well (specially since you've already discussed with him). 

Thanks again everyone......john

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: August 30, 2009, 12:31:55 AM »
Thank you sir! We have exchanged a few PMs with billy b a few weeks ago. The search will continue!

Ian

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: August 30, 2009, 12:15:59 AM »
Thanks guys! I guess i wasnt too far off on my idea then! Id love to know more about this thing! The more and more i find, the more and more i realize how much it truely is different! I love it!! Also, have any of you heard of a guy that goes by the name.... "Sano" Don La Franchi? in the process of cleaning the boat up i took a few pics of the very very faded pinstriping on the dash, then took them to microsoft paint and tried to redo what the striping once said. this is what i found. " PREPARED BY: "SANO" DON LA FRANCHI" the word "sano" is hidden under the gold plate for the dash brace                                 Thanks again, Ian
 


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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: August 29, 2009, 11:53:30 PM »
Also note that the superjets picture above all have two stringers for each side of the boat (3 lifting strakes per side), and the sprint has one(two lifting strakes per side).......... the UFO has one stringer per side(and two lifting strakes per side).....

FYI: im counting the outside edge of the boats with the lip as a lifting strake also, mainly because i dont know what else it would be called.

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: August 29, 2009, 11:49:32 PM »
OK guys, OC2Vegas just took some pics of his 1979 Superjet for me. And when i started to compare the two... man did that open a can of worms!!!

Im just throwing this out there, BUT what i believe is that the UFO may have a Sprint bottom (along with added drop keel) with a SuperJet deck. From what i have read throughout the research is that the sprint has a very narrow "cockpit" especially back by the motor, and has a longer deck than the super jets. The deck of the UFO definatly matches every other superjet ive seen, but the bottom seems to be different, more then just the drop keel. it appears that the super jets have very shallow lifting strakes, where-as the UFO has very deep and "swoopy" strakes, much like the sprint that i have a picture of. i will post a few pictures for you to give your input on. Just thinking outloud on this one!!

Ian
OC2Vegas' 79 superjet bottom

another super jet pic i have, matches the one above

and again



NOW, this is a pic of Sprint. Notice the very narrow engine compartment, and different bottom then the superjets above.



Ok, now from seeing those pictures. here are some of the UFO. It is hard to get pictures that show the bottom like the others posted because of the cav plates but i think these will do just fine. The bottom sure like like a sprint bottom to me, and the boat definatly has the superjet deck. Could it really be possible that the boat was special ordered with that combo or am i just dreaming?



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