Logs first, no matter what..IMHO. The logs won't heat the water up too much unless there is a problem. There sounds to be a issue with volume, I have seen engines run at 140-150* with 90* lake water, sooooo..

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I have to concurr. there is absolutely NO WAY your lake or river water in the Pittsburgh area are anywhere near how warm the lake water is here in Phoenix, and the Blue boat held 150 all day long with probably the same long bolt logs. Held a little more than that when she burned and sank, however, but...........

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Yeah, sux  Nordie won't be there. You can bring the Seadoo CoorsHeavy, we can toss roost at ya now!!!!

Keith, your boat looks better than the Moo and you know it!

Marc, bring me up a case of Joe Gibbs Hot Rod oil, you GOTTA carry it, lol, I'll make it worth your while.

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You comin' to big river? Got a set riding around in my truck that came outta Nordies new headers. Still running without 'em, lol.

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Oh WOW, lol

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Lol so does PHX. (A real one at least) Shopped three yesterday looking for a deep groove alt pulley, none had one, and none carry the Joe Gibbs oil I use. Basically none had anything for Fords at all. Methinks we need to start our own chain..........hmmmmm.

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HaHaha! He's got me there Steve, we all saw and heard it run! All it needs now is a little backing up and a simple pin pulled.......

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But what do I know, I own a burning submarine!

Depot forgot that the customers matter...and they wonder why the company is struggling

Exactly! And we fret over why Circuit City went Belly up (Best buy will too, only a matter of a few months), Linens and things, etc etc etc.  I'm done, lol Point made I think on the retail end of it.

If you guys lived in Chandler, you'd see what customer service was, as I DEMAND it. Too bad we got too big for our own britches and went with everyone else on the "let's just pull in cash as fast and however we can" bandwagon.  Our only salvation is that the founding fathers made SURE there was plenty of cash. We're still liquid, there's no other retailer, save Wal-Mart, that is.

There's also this. And this is just a general perspective. I see more and more everyday customers wanting us to solve their problems. Much more and more they're dealing with City/state codes, serious issues where they need or should get an licensed and bonded expert, and they expect, and DEMAND on occasion, Home Depot to tell them how to do it themselves and sell them what they need to do it. In some cases we can help, in most, no. Can I tell you what Electrical code is to wire a 60 amp sub-panel into your shed in Maricopa AZ? Yeah, but am I gonna open myself up to the liabilty when YOU'RE DOING THE WORK, HELL NO!!? Can I tell you how deep you need to run irrigation lines under bermuda grass (Well I can. but won't).

There's Customer Service, then there's lawsuits and retaliation. Everyone's feeling the pinch and they're all trying to save a buck.

I get it, but getting mad at us for not telling you ver batim how to do it, is just wrong. Everyone's brother in law is a lawyer, and you burn your house down, are you gonna blame yourself, or call him and sue Home Depot "Because you did what we told you to do" When you may or may not have. That is why there are licensed and bonded contractors out there who are also starving.

Just my .02

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I know Glenn, sucks huh? no matter how big the title in the room, F'n sux being the smartest one in there, lol

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Realize that these people couldn't find their own ass witout a GPS, a cell phone, 2 e-mails and a detailed study of where it should be, or 411!  But they have a Degree or some relative who got them the job.

I still find it EXTREMELY funny when I did all this, I was being paged, called, pulled all over the building from garden to bricks and sticks for customer questions, issues, whatever, and not ONE of these pricks helped ONE FUKKIN CUSTOMER! Isn't that who we work for??

K Rant and thread jack over, lol.

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Welcome in! And Nice boat! That's the first time....... wait, no. .......the SECOND time I've seen flames on seats! You'rs looks cool. The first ones I saw wasn't cool at all.   

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Yeah, but you're a grampa now Tom! Let Josh do his thing and you spend time with that lil girl! That's what's important and why Dave is so excited! I'm excited(And me too. RJ and I never had a good connection, Becca and I do, but RJ's case is a lil different, the boats have been a blessing in that respect).

Hell I can see myself breaking out the 4 legged walker (on wheels) to get your granddaughter to set up my jet pump!

Well, more realistically, will be MY daughter getting YOUR granddaughter to do it, but still...... lol.

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That;s mine that does that. And yeah, it's running a little lean. Needs to be looked at by someone smarter than me on these marine carbs.

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NAw, I'm an open header kinda guy. My acute hearing long gone from hot rodding that way and too much gunfire without protection, music, etc. I tried the baffles only because of Saguaro lake here I was TOLD was more strict than regulations were. WRONGO!, but that's another matter. Anyway, put them in, then took them right back out (They're still in the truck I think) . Told Nordie they made shit bit o difference to me, only robbed RPM's.

Nordie says I'm just deaf (I don't think that's the case, but close) and a liar because the open headers I sent him, apparently, made his Mohawk stand up like morning wood I guess! lol

Woulda loved to have seen that, lol. (Talk about a Kodak moment!)

Ray