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Jet Pumps / Re: Starting time..on Berkley
« on: August 23, 2011, 02:17:09 PM »
Sometimes it's impossible to disconnect the driveline with 3 point, or sometimes even 4 point, mounting systems. A lot depends on which driveline you have as well. If theres a PTO adaptor used on the flywheel, usually you can. Especially on 4 point engine mount systems, and sometimes on 3 point systems (I could on Moo, it had a huge access hole in the bellhousing with a body plug in it you just popped out).

We all say "don't run it without it disconnected", but then we all have and do. What it really damages is the wear ring on the impeller and burns the front seal packing. Best solution I ever heard, and use often, is three garden hoses when you cannot disconnect. One to the motor, barely open, really, then two more basically wide open, one stuffed up the rock grate and one up the nozzle. Be prepared to make a mess......... :sly:

Ray

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Headers vs Logs and Snails
« on: August 23, 2011, 01:58:45 PM »
I've already had two people get burns from my OT headers, and one of 'em was me! So.... any preference of log manufacturers, or are they all pretty much the same?

This for a Chebbie?



These are very nice, polished, and if you notice, staggered length so the snails are even and the same length hose used on each side.

I also have a set of OT pipes for these, not the best, but I've definately seen worse, that are same length for use with these if you're interested.
 (the pipe on the bottom. The top one is from another set to show how most are staggered for std logs)



Beware, the OT pipes part gets just as hot as headers, although the logs are cool when running.

Ray

PS, every snail I've seen can be cut off to the 3 1/2" step. I have had Harmans, Hardins, even got a pair of nice Nicsons here that can, just FYI

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Headers vs Logs and Snails
« on: August 22, 2011, 10:27:12 PM »
You wanna see badass? I'm kicking myself I didn't get a pic of it. I thought I did, but wasn't on the camera. Anyway, Hallet Dave's new setup is cool as friggin hell, retains the rear jump seats, and would work VERY well with a blower engine in that thing!

Ray

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Headers vs Logs and Snails
« on: August 22, 2011, 09:39:16 PM »
I'll be perfectly honest with you, blowers do not really gonna care much which exhaust you use from a "real life" performance standpoint. You can split hairs on a dyno, but in reality we use these things at a multitude of different elevation levels, quality of fuels, etc and I know none of us tunes for that routinely either that would net more HP gain than the headers vs logs scenario.  Yes, TT headers are every bit as loud as OT headers when I tried them on Moo.  Maybe quieter in the NWZ and at low cruise speeds, but WFO or 3000 RPM or so? just as noisy, just as hot, etc.

At the end of the day, if the logs are quiet, cool, and make you happy, I don't think headers are going to make the MAYBE 25 or so HP increase you'd get worth it compared to the aggravation of them on a blown engine. I would, however, make sure you cut off the ends of the snails to the 3 1/2" step and use 3 1/2" or 4" tips.

I don't think thats a bad move at all. I got more than my share of header burns, and if you look around while out on the water, I see less and less blown motors with headers and zoomies than I used to. Everyone going to Center-risers and logs, and I AM seeing more blown engines out there also.  :thumbup:

Ray

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Events / Re: Big River/Towning's 21st/Gord's Trip South PICS THREAD
« on: August 22, 2011, 09:20:29 PM »
I'm not real sure, did we ACTUALLY drink Gord and Mary Lou out of Canadian Beer???   :sly:

Ray

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Who's Leg
« on: August 22, 2011, 09:06:14 PM »
   x2 ray Ive found the best way to get stuff is show up at an event    :beer:   :beer:  :beer:

I know huh? Kinda resembles a swap meet in the parking lot! We've echanged engines and pumps more than once....... :thumbup:

Ray

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Seized olds
« on: August 22, 2011, 08:36:25 PM »
Could be a few things JT, most of em pretty bad. Rule out the pump first though.

First things first, open up the handhole to the pump and look/feel around in there for something jamming the impeller. Look up through the rock grate as well.

Next I'd look closely at the driveline condition, and check that all the bolts are in place on the flywheel and in the driveline. If one of those backs out, could cause an issue.

Other than that, pull the engine or at least the heads and see whats up. If it's in the engine, I'd guess broken timing chain or cam and pistons are jammed against valves.

Ray

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Who's Leg
« on: August 22, 2011, 10:40:05 AM »
Snowballs in Vegas???   :sly:

I think B-rad is pretty serious. He even installs!  :thumbup:

Ray

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Events / Re: Big River/Towning's 21st/Gord's Trip South PICS THREAD
« on: August 21, 2011, 08:37:38 PM »
This might be the last of what I CAN post.......... ;D









































Ray

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Events / Big River/Towning's 21st/Gord's Trip South PICS THREAD
« on: August 21, 2011, 08:22:17 PM »
Pics are uploading now..........gonna require some "filtering on my part, but gimme some time here.  :thumbup:

Great time had by All I think!!!

Here's the first of them









































Ray

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Seized olds
« on: August 21, 2011, 08:19:35 PM »
Pull the spark plugs and see if water comes out when you try and turn it over.........Be my first thought on it. I didn't get a close look  at how you plumbed yours.

If no water, maybe broken timing chain and a lot lot else broke...... :banghead:

Ray

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Boat Showcase / Re: NORDIC454's 2011 updates
« on: August 19, 2011, 01:55:03 PM »
Did you put Nordies old cam in that thing? Holy Crap it sounds all sorts if Irate!  :thumbup:

Ray

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Are you kidding me???
« on: August 19, 2011, 10:32:54 AM »
theres no way.. no one is that stupid...

flush the engine and run it with water?? sure... either this guy is pullin everyones leg, or he is the dumbest guy ever...

I dunno, he prolly talked to HDRider.........Terry could con anybody into anything and make them beleive its a good idea........ >:D

Ray

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i dont think it was really that bad :-\ i do feel that your air bleeds are adjustad way to far out and hiding a different problem. I always start at the factory settings and go from there, my bleeds are 1to 1.5 out.

Kinda where I was at. Generally, 1/2 turn to 1.5 turns out is all you need on the air bleeds. Hows the float level? How big a carb? what size engine? Hows the fuel pressure at speed? Almost seems like way too small a carb for the engine maybe?

The lifter noise you're describing could be detonation. Lots going on there and need more info. , but with THAT much vacuum, vacuum advance dizzy maybe causing issues? severe timing issues? Could really be anything at this point.

If one is detonating regularly, so are/have the rest, just not ID'd yet, or the valves/pushrods are all bent, holes in pistons, etc,  IMO.

Ray

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Projects / Re: Re: What have i got into.
« on: August 18, 2011, 08:13:24 PM »
Were all pretty good about keepin that secret, just done EVER let her find this place, you'll be in BIG trouble.  :D

Yeah, really, and if she DOES find this place, don't post pictures of boat/engine parts in the kitchen........that would probably go REALLY bad......Proppy and I are single and can get away with that sorta juvenile behaviour......... 8)

Three cable deal at JBP is smokin. BTW, Tom probably will anyway, but make sure you get the new helm and all and order a couple extra 43C heim joints and bolts.....no matter where you get your cables from......those ALWAYS come in handy, expecially at the lake or river when they fall out even if you use (And you need to) Loctite Red on them..... :thumbup:

Welcome! And I wouldn't necessarily rip it all apart, although we all do eventually, but I would pay close attention to the fuel tanks/lines. That seems to be something popping up more and more. If you smell gas.......could be your a$$........

When you route the new cables, keep a keen eye for potential problems. These boats are usually older than most of the gang here, not as old as me, but some of the hardware in there can be in the same bad condition as me (fuel filler necks, wiring harnesses, fuel lines, etc)........ ;)

Ray

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Hulls / Re: Drilling for Dump Fitting
« on: August 18, 2011, 06:33:17 PM »
I use a 4' level and frog tape, but same idea!  ;)

Ray

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Hulls / Re: Drilling for Dump Fitting
« on: August 18, 2011, 02:01:20 PM »
Not really no, just make sure where you are going from the outside doesn't hit any wiring harnesses or fuel lines on the INSIDE......Huh Ralph?  :-*

And this is probably just me, but when I've done it, mix up a tiny bit of resin, or use some 2 part epoxy glue to seal the wood back to the 'glass again then install the dump.  ;)

Ray

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We pulled in around 2:30 last night....saw Mike in Parker this morning...we're launching in about an hour..

Hey Ray.... I've got a set of heads for you....when you gonna get here?

Be there tomorrow nite around 8  :thumbup:

Who's gonna be there from the Vegas crew?

Ray

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Stroke Me
« on: August 17, 2011, 02:51:41 AM »
I hope some one can help me with this I am new to the Ford world and I have a 460 all stock and im wanting to stroke it with a 4 and half in crank with 6.7 I beam rods do I have to open the block up so the rods will clear ?

Nope.

Piston/cam selection will be important  as well as proper install to ensure proper valve/piston clearance, etc is all you should run into.

Ray

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Hey Ray, you bringing that blown motor in sumthin' ??? 
I guess your not gonna put in the Pickle,  plans for something else ?
Inquiring minds.  I've seen some big horsepower in semi vees, but not sure of how safe & sane they were.  ::)
You can always put bigger pullies on it.  I know we did, could'nt afford the good gas at this juncture.  :(
Looking forward to seeing you guys.

Danny & Sheree'

No, Blower motor's still not complete. In fact the heads for it are being delivered there, unless Pat has an epiphany on the way and decides to dump his whacker and buld a BBF Jet boat!  ;D . And yes, talked myself out of putting it in Pickle. At least for now. Someone doesn't buy it before the October trip, Probably just gonna do it anyway and see if I can sink it or not. We've found a few SST tunnels around, but until I get some cash for this one, no go.  :banghead:

Not sure what we're bringing. We finished up the pump/header/carb/intake upgrades on the Charger (And MAN does it sound pissed off!) so I'm leaning towards that one. I guess friday afternoon we'll decide what we're hooking up to, either the Charger or Pickle.

See you guys Friday Nite!  :thumbup:

Ray

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: My Blower motor...Blew!
« on: August 17, 2011, 02:05:33 AM »
I wouldn't have a problem at all with the Eddie heads on a blower engine. The trick with the cams is really going to be where your final compression ratio works out to be, compression height, etc. Cams for boats use, particularly jet boats, get a little complicated and more so with a blower.

Overdrive ratios, what impeller, pump condition, play into it in no small way either. 

Once you figure out whats salvageable out of what you have, my first call would be to Barry at Obnoxious Racing Engines. (Obnoxious001 here on the boards). He's probably built more blown BBC jet boat engines than anyone I can think of and can make some very specific part recomendations for you based on a LOT of experience and what you have left to work with. I know on my blower engine build he has been very helpful, Paul Kane has been indispensable since this is a BBF build in my case. Tom/Josh at JBP could help as well. Can't remember the last time they built a boat without a blower on it.

Ray

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Events / Re: August event
« on: August 16, 2011, 12:52:49 PM »
Musta been like the Prohibition days smuggling THAT much beer across the border....... >:D

 :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

Ray

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Basset T-valve fitting
« on: August 15, 2011, 09:55:37 PM »
Fitting or complete Valve?

Just buy the whole valve. Toms got a much cheaper version than the Bassett $90 T, same inside, actually, the same one Rewarder sells..........

Ray

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Basset T-valve fitting
« on: August 15, 2011, 09:42:19 PM »
OK, A: It WAS the correct fitting

B: It's focked up beyond repair now

C: time for a new one, call Tommy in the morning.........805 466 4719

Ray

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Will my boat sink at lake mead?
« on: August 15, 2011, 08:44:12 PM »
The boss man is headed out on Saturday for his annual week long houseboat trip....I was thinking of leaving the river Sunday morning and heading up there to hang out for a couple days....they're launching out of callville and finding a cove somewhere to call home for the week.  I asked about the water and he said in past years it's been like glass......I find that hard to believe.  I've got about 6 inches of free board.  I can handle big water while underway, but i'm still a bit concerned....

You'll be fine Pat. Nordie would be the expert here, but my lil Pickle boat has a lot less freeboard than you and we've had it out there a couple times (While exciting, I'll kid you not) in good 2-3+ footers when the wind kicks up. Make sure the bilge pumps work, you'll enjoy it!  ;)

Ray

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