Bad ground or bad ground cable. 

Ray

as pissed as she looks youd think you kicked her in the ankle. hope shes ok for BR 

Owwww! I was gonna say, she don't look happy about it either........

Ray

If you're going to do a setback install, PM Propless. His came out awesome and had his own little method for how he got it as square and as tight as he did. His acutally will not need those aluminum plates because he glassed the transom back in very tight to the pump. A little silicone around the pump and viola! You have the advantage of merely cutting out so it fits that snug and very little glass work.   

You'll probably spend a day or two with a grinder underneath once the intake is in reshaping the keel to work with the new jet intake, but shouldn't be too bad.

Ray

Not sure Ray. A neighbor of mine's dad used to own a boat repair shop. He has since retired and moved to Havasu, but I believe it came from one of the dad's buddies (via my neighbor). Do you see any major issues or flaws?

Not really no. I don't think I'd run a HV pump with it is all.

Ray

Yep! As these guys said, a little drip is ALWAYS good........

As stated, that is packing, and unlike hydraulic packing, it is water lubed. watch a backhoe, trackhoe, bulldozer, skid-steer or bobcat work and wou can wipe a film of hydraulic fluid from the hard chrome hydraulic pistons. Kinda the same thing, but you need a little more "leakage" in this case to keep them cool.

Ray

The Olds 455, Chevy 454 and Ford 460 are really almost identical in performance in stock form given the same pump, hull, etc. It's when you start hot rodding the engines the differences rear their ugly head.

Chevy is the cheapest to build and add HP to, as parts are everywhere and dirt cheap, and every engine shop in North America probably does 2-3 Chevy engines for any sum of all other engines they do combined. Some will argue because parts break so often the aftermarket floods to cash in on this, or the same for "inferior" parts. I beleive it simply stems from the fact that the smalll block Chevy has been in existance nearly untouched for going on 60 years, and the BBC just benefits from "guilt by association" and nearly the same for 40 years. 

The 460 Ford is popular, and was with the boat builders, because it's so damn strong to begin with, for one, and you can build BIG hp fairly easily and inexpensively while not changing a thing on the bottom end as far as rods, main caps, crank, etc.  In fact, a little birdie told me of a rumour of a dyno pull only engine being built. Stock 2 bolt block, cast crank, twin turbos and hoping for 2000 HP just to prove a point. But it is far more expensive to "Go Big" on this engine vs the Chevy.

The 455 is simply the odd man out in this arena. Probably why you see more of them on CL. BBF and BBC boats command higher prices, and if you notice, at least I do, Pump brand is mentioned early and often if it's  Berk, rarely if at all on a Jacuzzi or Panther.

Ray

Digging your hoses and routing!  Very different!

Only time I ever saw that stuff used was on a beer bong! 

Ray

Not too sure what pan it is. My father refered to it a a jet pan but is unsure of the manufacturer or intended application. I do know I can't see the drain plug and the pan comes within 1/2 inch of the bottom of the boat so i doubt I can install a valve and hose to the plug hole. Thanks for the tips on running the boat. I'm not planning on upping the RPM's. I'm just going to run it a bit to make sure everything is kosher.

If it's a jet pan, it'll have a drain plug at one of the bottom, rear, side corners of the pan. I HAVE seen a couple with them in the middle rear, but those have also had another in the former location. 

And yeah, what Bob said! 

Ray

I'll make an office table out of the blower...

Mine tend to see some time on the Kitchen counter.......long standing Joke around here.....One loved member sold his boat, then his wife got a new kitchen......no more boat.....So a few of us, whenever we get new shiney parts, make sure we take the pics of the parts in our old, beat up kitchens........but WE have BOATS!   

Seriously though, Turbos on a jet boat is something I've only seen a few times. Makes absolutely perfect sense, and rock harder, probably more efficient than the blower. They will, and do rock! Most of us come from a time when our experiences were Turbos always broke, were a marketing gimmick that really did nothing a half point more compression wouldn't do, etc. Today is a little different, but I will stay with the old skool look of a huffer. When someone sees a huffer, it's WOW! When someone see's Turbos, well, they can see those on their Subaru..........

Ray

Heres pics of the ones I had, as you can see, the nozzle looks a LOT different than the nozzle you have. These were off 12 JG's as well.



These are all the steering cable/through transom parts. Seems you have all this...




Ray

Score one, well, actually, more than a dozen!, But thank you 75Fantasy for finding the smoking freaking deal of the century pump! Thanks to Tom JBP for telling me exactly what I was gonna run into, and did, Ralph, Proppy, the rest. This all actually worked out tits and just over a grand!

New Energized Jacuzzi YJ "Golden Eagle" pump installed complete with Place Diverter, 1 header installed, the other has serious issues hopefully we can get taken care of tomorrow, new cables, helm, plumbing (Flytime, you're NOT gonna beleive how those logs were plumbed......could be the root of all that was evil in the world), alternator,

Took awhile, but as most of you know, I sold the boat to a friend with contingincies and wasn't leaving my money out there to hang again.

But it's in, cool as hell, rerouted cables O/T, a lot of other little things that I did not realize about the boat until Serg told me the issues he was having.



Ray

I wanna know just HOW MANY GUYS, and HOW MANY BEERS it took to sink that tube completely underwater to check for leaks..........    Any pics??

Sent this to my Aunt....She's looking for one! 

RAy

Somebody call Mythbusters or get those "Searching for Bigfoot" guys to do something worthwhile.....Saw that for the first time the other day....don't watch much TV....but what a bunch of idiots running around doing nothin'.....

The harmonics thing? maybe. Combination somewhat of both? Who knows?

The fact that BOTH happened directly under the pickup, almost completely different designs and manufacturing technique, I think is very important. And I can honestly beleive that suction/vacuum created by a HV oil pump through the pickup tube theory could honestly cause enough flex do this over a relatively short period of time. And probably your answer, completely feasible.

Back in HS, yes I know, back when Dinosaurs roamed the earth and Girls actually said "no", my Physics teacher showed us how vacuum worked by hooking up one of those little compressors (Older version and probably not as efficent) that everyone uses nowadays to inflate water toys or beds to a 55 gallon drum through a T fitting. Took about a half an hour before the first loud noise of something cringing from the strain, but in the end, about 2 hours, the thing looked like a smashed and squashed beer can. Those pumps only put out about, what, 10 PSI???  I couldn't get the side of an oil drum to flex without a LOT of effort either. Any cavitation, however unlikely, would cause extreme flex both ways if that theory proves true.

I would repair VERY carefully or replace the pans. Welding on them in this high stress area that apparantly showed it's ugly head doesn't seem like a very good idea to me. I would also make sure, next time, that the pickup is maybe a bit higher off the bottom than we would normally do. I think 3/8" is pretty much as close as any of us go, but I think after seeing this, I may just go to 1/2 inch or more on those types of pans. 

Just thinking out loud.

Ray