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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: What to do....
« on: July 11, 2012, 03:15:19 PM »
Ok I need some advice. One of my projects I have going on right now has some engine issues. Here is the link.

http://www.socaljetboats.com/engine-mechanical-electrical/olds-455-with-a-problem/msg171231/#msg171231

I have a guy that is looking to sell a late 70's BBC that is a 2-Bolt main. From what the guy is telling me the engine has been sitting for about 5 years but still turns over fine. It was pulled out of a 80's eliminator and he trashed the boat so now he is selling the engine. He is selling the BBC for $600 and it has all the mounts, alternator, starter, Moroso valve covers, Edelbrock Intake manifold, and Rewarder Headers with lines. Is this worth doing the swap? If you look at the link above you will see that the 455 will need some machine work and new pistons and then need to be rebuilt. I would also rebuild the 454 but I would much rather put money into a 454 over a 455 Olds.

What are your thoughts?

Hard to argue with the cost even if the engine is tired, accessories would cost more than that I think,, assuming it has a marine pan.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Worth swapping to a BB
« on: July 11, 2012, 03:10:14 PM »
I have a 350 in my boat now. Not sure how old it is but I am assuming it hasn't ever been rebuilt. I feel like the SB needs to be rapped a lil high to be in a cruising band. We had a built BBF that would cruise at 3000-3500 no problem. This seems like it needs to be at 3800-4000. I thought about a 383 stroker or just going to a 454/460 set up. Has anybody made the switch or should the SB be fine with a freshen up and some bolt ons? It's 19' Daytona with a berk JC-A.

If the rpm seems high for the speed, maybe you should look at the jet pump first, since a different engine won't change that?  If you are not planning on using your block, I would give some serious thought to building a 400.  You could build one with a stock crank, forged pistons and longer rods (the stock 400 rods are undesirably short)

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Rebuild a quadra jet in SGV
« on: July 08, 2012, 07:32:32 PM »
John Avery at Engine Dynamics in Baldwin Park,,, might tell him Barry sent you. 

Engine Dynamics

    (626) 337-4614

4152 Puente Ave, #B, Baldwin Park, CA 91706

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Starter teeth missing
« on: July 03, 2012, 03:38:57 PM »
Was at the river on Sat heading up river near Lazy Harry's amd ran out of fuel on one side. The elec. fuel pump fed the carb and hit the starter-- and it sounded like a coffee grinder. I suspected a broken nosecone oe a cracked starter mounting pad, but all the teeth are gone on the pinion gear. 4 starters in 2.5 seasons, last one in october 2011. (checkerzone rebuild)

Puttin in one of these:
http://cvrproducts.com/protorque-starters-chevrolet-gm-engines/

ON a side note  :beer: THANKS :beer: to the jet boat guy that towed us to Lazy Harry's, wouldn't take money or beer .

Daniel
Mash on it

If you didn't already order,, maybe try a Proline from RB in Parker. 

Are you putting a new flexplate or ring gear on the flywheel?  If not,, you may end up hurting the new starter fairly quickly.

Make sure you use actual starter bolts to hold the starter in place,, if you use a generic bolt it can allow the starter to shift.  Whatever starter you buy should have instructions about shimming and engagement,, important to get that right if you want it to last. 

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: What are these valves for??
« on: June 30, 2012, 05:56:05 PM »
Thats what i was thinking but nothing comes out even with water in the block  :o maybe the're plugged up?  What are my options to get them functional again?

Remove the drain from the block as was stated, then carefully use a screwdriver or punch to try and dig out some of the sand and debris.  I have had to use an electric drill on some occasionally(usually bare blocks on an engine stand),, whatever you do keep in mind that you don't want to drive something through the cylinder wall. 


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 454 rocker movement, normal?
« on: June 29, 2012, 08:32:41 PM »
Sorrry if this sounds stupid.
 Changed my valve cover gaskets today, while i had them off i took a look at the rockers for anything unusual. Everything looked good but I noticed that some of the rockers have side to side movement if I grabbed them with my hand. Turning the engine over will change which ones can be moved so I'm asuming the ones that can be moved are in the closed position. None of the pushrods could be moved and the rocker movement was maybe 1/4 " side to side. Is this normal? I dont have any noise up there and the valve tips dont look all chewed up, from what I could see.

They will have some free play,, probably not a full 1/4"?  They should run fairly well centered on the valve, that is the roller should not be off to one side or the other too much(really none, but will depend on the engine and who put it together). 


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: ski tow
« on: June 28, 2012, 05:37:56 PM »
i would like to make a block mounted ski tow for my boat i hear that the ot headers burn thru ski ropes. i have a few ideas about how to avoid this but i would like to hear the trail and error of others to give me better ideas. if pics could be posted so i can get a visual that would be great thanks kyle

The way we used to deal with that was to make up a short extension for the ski rope with rubber hose over it (maybe 3/8" fuel line if you are using 1/4" rope).  Easy enough to loop it through the end of the ski rope,, not hard to change to use different ropes.  They were called "burn lines", very common with dry headers.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: distributor problem!
« on: June 17, 2012, 05:01:12 PM »
It does have a screw in dipstick. I had replaced the gasket because it was spraying out of there originally. What is a leak down test? I also thought of replacing the distributor. Maybe it isn't seating right on the manifold. I've asked a few mechanic friends what they think and I get the same "never heard of it doing that" response. Very confusing.

A leak down test can tell you if the rings are not sealing, and creating excessive crankcase pressure.  How old or tired is your engine?

If the dipstick screws in, and you only have a PCV valve (or two of them), and the PCV valve(s) stop working, there is no place for the excess pressure to vent off.  I put some sort of breathers on everything I build. 

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: distributor problem!
« on: June 17, 2012, 11:34:26 AM »
It was a new gasket. And the u clamp was tight. I could understand maybe if the oil was seeping out but its spraying out. I was thinking of replcing the pcv valves just to make sure they are working properly. But I wouldn't think them not working would build up that much pressure for the oil to force itself out somewhere. This problem is very confusing.

I would think it would push the dipstick out first, unless your pan has a screw in dipstick.  You may have a lot of crankcase pressure, a leak down test could help determine that.  I would still think there is a problem with your new gasket, I have never seen oil "spray" out of a distributor gasket.  I would say have another look at the gasket, maybe it got pinched or didn't seat right.  Did you replace the gasket because it was spraying out already?

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: distributor problem!
« on: June 16, 2012, 11:20:43 PM »
OK, you are not relaying enough information to know what the problem is.  I assume the distributor hold down is tight, or you have checked to make sure it's tight.  What's the gasket look like,, maybe it's damaged and just needs replacing.  Maybe check to see if a feeler gauge fits into the area where it's leaking?

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: distributor problem!
« on: June 16, 2012, 09:31:59 PM »
Are you saying oil comes out of the distributor,, or just around the distributor base gasket?

If it's actually inside the distributor, the only thing that makes much sense is that the distributor bushings are worn out, and you have excess crankcase pressure.  Do you have oil coming out of the breathers at all, or dipstick tube? 

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: I need a 454 long block
« on: June 16, 2012, 10:49:43 AM »
I would ask lots of questions, I didn't see anything stated about pistons.  Note the extra $1000 if you don't have a core. 

I may be able to put a long block together for you, PM for my number if you are interested.  Here's a write up on one I builthttp://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29409] [url]http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29409[/url]

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: New intake manifold
« on: June 13, 2012, 06:44:48 PM »
The Permatex #2 Glenn mentioned is real good stuff. I simply wipe a little of the same RTV I made the beads on the front and back of the lifter valley because, invariably, I got a lot of extra mess of the stuff from the caulking gun to use anyway. The Gaskacinch would do the same thing.  ;)

Word of note about not using the rubber end gaskets. A LOT of aftermarket intake manifolds won't even fit on the engine when trying to use them. The Weiand Tunnel for the 460 being one, the BDS and Blue Thunder blower manifolds being another. Had an issue with the Torker on my Olds with that also. Just good practice to eliminate them altogether.

Barry's (obnoxious001) has a good article over on PB installing a blower manifold you might want to take a peek at. Manny install is on page 2

http://www.performanceboats.com/user-how-section/25224-blown-injected-540-bbc-build-2.html

Ray

That's the way I still do it,, don't fix what isn't broken.  Note that the Permatex I use is the aviation grade stuff.  I don't necessarily agree at all with letting the silicone ends skin, since it means it may not adhere well to the manifold,, I don't care for leaks!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: BBC Rebuild
« on: June 13, 2012, 06:38:38 PM »
Pfaff is great but they are pricey, barry does great work he's obnoxious01 here on the boards

Thanks, just back from the river testing a turbo engine that I built in a completely rebuilt Hallet Vector.  Happy to talk to you if you are interested,, maybe 30 minutes or so from Long Beach.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: BBC 454 engine oil
« on: June 06, 2012, 11:00:09 PM »
Hi All,

 I just picked up my first jet boat and wanted to change the oil before I take it to the river. I have a 18ft Advantage open bow running a BBC 454. What type of engine oil and weight is recommend?

Thanks

The Valvoline VR 1 is perhaps the easiest to find,, most of the parts stores sell it.  I like Brad Penn oil, but it's not going to be as easy to find.

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I've been having problems with rocker studs ripping out of my aluminum heads. Back at the race in Long Beach of '09, it happened and Pat repaired the 2 studs with a time sert. it happened again recently and i did a quick fix using a helicoil.

I want to time sert all 16 studs. Should I do it with regular steel inserts or should I spend the extra $$ for stainless?



Keep in mind that getting the insert at the proper angle is very critical.  The guy I have used for that type of repair in the past sets the head up at the proper angle in the mill.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Engine shut off
« on: May 25, 2012, 08:12:56 PM »
Did you try switching back and have it die again?  Do both tanks feed a single fuel filter?

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: olds 455 dizzy help
« on: May 02, 2012, 10:57:34 AM »
Olds run counter clock wise opposite of a chevy

Oops,, my mistake for assuming GM would maintain some constancy.  I have done countless big block Chevys, but never have done an Olds.

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Engines / Engine Parts For Sale / Re: 4 bolt 454 parts
« on: May 01, 2012, 07:36:16 PM »
bump

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: olds 455 dizzy help
« on: May 01, 2012, 07:29:21 PM »
My first thought was that you have it 180 degrees out,, because that certainly causes popping and the no run situation.  If you were able to swap distributors without moving anything, than you probably have a problem with your Pro Comp distributor.  A couple of years ago one of the guys at Chet Herbert told me about 50% of the Pro Comp distributors came back.  That was in a discussion where I was telling him that we bought two for a dirt track car that I build engines for, one was bad out of the box, and the 2nd had only 1/2 a roll pin through the gear, since the hole did not line up properly. 

Reading your post again, you state that firing order was counter clockwise, that is not correct.  Starting with #1, you put the wires clockwise on the cap (viewed from top)

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after a rebuild on my olds 455 it took a shlt and locked up after 15 min of run time


Oldsmobiles are very particular about oiling for a "performance" application.   Have you talked to whoever rebuilt it to see if they will do anything for you?  You would want to try and determine what caused the problem so you don't just put bearings in it and have it happen again. 

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Engines / Engine Parts For Sale / Re: RoushYates motors etc.
« on: April 25, 2012, 05:23:11 PM »
Now if I only had lots of cool money!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Don zig mag
« on: April 20, 2012, 10:07:25 PM »
The impeller still sucks, water that is.

For what an impeller costs, you probably should install a new one each season,, maybe keep the old one for a spare if it's still ok.  No sense ruining a trip with a broken impeller, or having to get broken vanes out of water hoses.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Don zig mag
« on: April 20, 2012, 07:45:14 PM »
My motor is relatively low compression and the starter will turn it fast enough I'm sure. You mentioned you didn't play the switch on switch off game with your motor. Are you only talking about the start up? Because you need a switch to kill the ground to the mag right? Otherwise it just keeps running, or am I confused?

Right,, you do need to ground it to kill the engine.  I was talking about for start up,, was not at all necessary for mine.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Don zig mag
« on: April 20, 2012, 12:05:51 PM »
I have a couple set up questions if anyone has ever messed with these. I just bought one that im going to use in my flat bottom. I know that there needs to be a ground switch to turn the motor off and on again. My question is, is there anything to do so that I won't get juiced when the boat is running? My brothers old boat had a shocking problem with an HEI. Also it's a points style, is there a good place to get parts?

If you just bought a used one,, spend the time and money to have it checked out so you don't fight the thing from the  beginning.  Zig is maybe 4 weeks out or so, we are waiting on one that is at his shop for an injected engine that is supposed to dyno next week.

I ran a mag on my turbo ski race engine years ago with no issues, and it always started easily with no switch off/switch on games, but it was a low compression engine (for the turbos).  On a higher compression engine, if the starter does not spin the engine quick enough, it will be hard to start with a mag, thus the concept of spin it and flip the switch.  The .018"-.020" plug gap is also correct and critical if you want it to run.

Some timing lights work with a mag, no problem, can't recall what brand I was using when I ran mine, but my engine always ran well, never burned pistons.  Tachometer is another story, you will need to do some research on that, may be an adapter that lets you run your Moon tach if it's not compatible,, should be able to call them and ask?

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