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1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« on: April 14, 2014, 09:11:00 PM »
Well guys, I'm new here and thought I would share my recent project with the masses. I'm not a "hey look at me" kinda guy, I'm more of a "hey look what you could do too" kinda guy.
I'd like to share my updated boat to help motivate some of you that are thinking about doing something similar.

So much for the disclaimer.  ;)

I purchased my Eliminator in '96 to help me get over a recent divorce. The boat was old, worn but still ran good and had some potential. I enjoyed the boat as it was for 8 years, each year promising myself that NEXT year I would do some much needed updates, but each year as the winter snow melted, and boating season arrived I said hell with it, I'm going boating.... and put the update off until NEXT year.
Finally in 2006 I decided that I HAD to freshen up the engine. It was nearly THIRTY years old and still running. I averaged probably 1 or 2 days a week on the water from May through Sept. By now even though the engine fired every time, and wasn't using oil or making any ugly noises, it seemed to struggle to pull 4000 RPM on the Berkley JG-A pump.

SO in 2006 I pulled the motor and took it to my Fav local engine builders, C&T machine.  Bart and Rod are the owners, and they are responsible for helping My dear friend Lance Faulkner build some record setting engines.

I asked C&T to freshen up the 460, and add a little fire to it, but make it as reliable as a stone. I wanted it to run for at least another 10 years. They took the block to .060 over with TRW forged dished pistons, added some mildly worked over D0VE-C heads, a Ford Motorsport hydraulic flat tappet cam and topped it off with a Weiand Stealth and a 750 Double pumper.

So boating I went again. The interior had LONG since gone bad. There were holes worn in the carpet, the seat vinyl was faded, stained and split in several places. Each year I promised myself, THIS year I will do the upholstery....

In 2012 I received a sizable tax return. I filed early, and saw my money in March 2012. THIS year I am updating my boat and building the upholstery that I always wanted. I will get it done BEFORE boat season in Utah arrives.

This is where the pictures will start.

I believe this pic to be from '01 and in the all original condition that I had ran it from '96 to '06:



and one more, just because:

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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2014, 09:30:33 PM »
I always hated the seating layout of my boat. It 'featured' a bench seat in the front, rear facing seats a dog house engine cover and small jump seats on either side of the engine. The odd thing was, that there was an in-floor ski locker that was completely unusable for skis, because the front seat covered it. Who's idea was this?







I removed the seats, and began to survey the damage of years gone by.



I removed the tattered carpet (what was left of it) and had a look at the floor.





The flooring had come delaminated from the hull where the floor meets the sides



So I removed the floor





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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2014, 09:45:30 PM »
I laid a new floor using marine grade plywood and West Systems products.



The flooring under the bow was still in good shape, but it had also come loose from the hull, so I laid glass along that seam to reattach it.



Here is a look at my glass work. I scuffed the surface of the wood, and beveled the edges for a nice flush mating surface along the hull



I had always wanted a more modern seating layout, with front buckets, rear bench and a nice sundeck and a pro-stock style scoop.... and access to my damned ski locker.  :D
So thats what I built. I have to say though, that the somewhat spacious interior of a 21 foot jet boat starts to get small very quickly when you choose this interior style.


I was never a fan of the tall-ish turtle shell style sun decks on the smaller boats, thats why I decided to build a flush sundeck and use a scoop to provide the needed room for the engine.
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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2014, 09:46:28 PM »
That boat is so gaudy it's beautiful... Eyes peeled on this one...

Killer project. keep 'em coming!

GT
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2014, 09:50:09 PM »
Thanks GT.... I think.   ;)
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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2014, 09:52:35 PM »
Thanks GT.... I think.   ;)

Compliment only buddy..

I am a sucker for greens and purples and all the odd combos in between...   :thumbup:

Let's face it. If someone explained to you over the phone that boat your first thought would be "what the hell?"...

Keep it coming my man.

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2014, 10:06:06 PM »
After the initial front seat test fit, I realized that I didn't like the shape, and that the vinyl couldn't be done the way that I had seen it in my head, so I made a few more cuts and changed the shape of the seats. Along the way I had built in as much storage as possible, under the seats and other places.



I also decided I needed to come up with a way to let my passenger seat be mounted in the observer position or forward facing, so I came up with a simple and effective way to do this. Unfortunately I forgot to take pics. Basically I attached a couple of aluminum L brackets to the bottom of the seat. I think its 2" x 3" by about 10" long. The short side is bolted to the seat bottom, while the long side of the L slides INSIDE the seat base along the front and rear. I reinforced the interior and exterior of the seat base with several layers of glass. I then drilled through the front and rear of the seat base, and through the aluminum brackets. A pair of stainless quick release pins are inserted through the seat base and through the aluminum to secure the seat in place



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1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2014, 10:21:32 PM »
Love the green. Mine's Orange with classic wood grain. It has original buckets in it.


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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2014, 10:25:45 PM »
Pics.


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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2014, 10:48:59 PM »
By this time in the project boating season was quickly approaching and I wanted to be on the water by Memorial day. ( I missed that dead line due to problems with the vinyl shop)

I put down the camera and started working away, finalizing design, fitting and finishing parts that I hadn't originally thought of, but seemed like a good idea along the way.

I sanded the floor, and coated the top with a couple of coats of West Systems epoxy. I had already coated the bottom side of the floor before I installed it. I picked up some marine grade carpet and installed it by trowling down the recommended adhesive ( sorry I've forgotten what the stuff was now, but the carpet shop insisted that i use it. It was NOT contact cement )

I hauled all of my interior parts down to a local upholstery shop that I had selected. It came recommended and I had seen some of the work that came out of it. At this point I will be very brief and state that I was VERY disappointed in the workmanship, their ability to keep a schedule, and their promise to stay within the quote. I think you will agree that the finished product looks VERY nice, but those that get a closer look will see that I will be forced to re-do the vinyl work probably as soon as next season. A huge bummer.

While the interior was out getting finished, I decided to address some of the other things about the boat that I wanted to give an updated look to. First up with the windscreen. I used to be a fan of the look, but I was after something a little more sleek, so I deleted the windscreen.

Next to go was the bow rail. Again, lots of people like the look, but I was going more Hot-Rod.

I've done a lot of glass work in the past, but never any gel coat. Seamed like an easy enough concept. So I ground out all the holes in the deck, filled them with a chopped fiber and epoxy mixture. When that hardened I ground that down a little bit, just deep enough to lay some gel coat in it. When the gel coat hardened I sanded it flush and polished it. Seemed easy enough. I have to say... the finish work on the gel was WAY more difficult that I had imagined. I am FAR from pleased with my result. Lesson learned. The boat will be going to a real gel coat guy to get fixed... again.

One of the criteria for the update was that I had to have a stereo system that I could hear... while underway.... at 50 mph. My good friend is the owner of California Audio in West Valley Utah, and helped me select some VERY stout stereo components. The head unit is a Sony that allows you to put your ipod INSIDE the the unit. It was one of the coolest solutions to a few problems that I was facing. Now anyone can bring 'their' music onto the boat and their ipod stays charged and its protected from the elements. No external cords, and no ipod bouncing around on the floor or in a pocket somewhere. The speakers are all Cerwin Vega and are the drivers like the ones found in outdoor concert type of systems. Huge power amplifiers completed the system. After the first outing in the boat it was decided that the stereo easily met the initial criteria.

I also took the scoop to a local custom painter with a very specific yet generic design in mind. With only my brief explanation of what I wanted, he delivered the PERFECT design and colors for me. I was floored at the result. To most it probably wouldn't be a big deal, but I love the turn out, and I love what it does for the finished image of the boat.

I picked up the interior from the now hated vinyl shop and the final install was done.

Here is the finished project:





I wanted the design of the front seats, to carry over into the rear, so I added the small headrests to the rear seat, they also double as a pillow for your head while laying on the deck and dangling your feet off the transom.


The original 1977 design didn't have side panels in the front. I added them as a location to mount speakers, and a way from me to create more storage space in the gunnels.



This picture shows the storage pockets that I had built, it also shows the passenger seat mounted forward. A couple of the previous pictures show it mounted in the observer position



Here is a detailed look at the paint work on the scoop.

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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2014, 10:55:25 PM »
My parents were SoCal natives and owned several boats over the years including Rogers, Tahiti, Schuster (sp?) Hawaiian and others. I grew up at places like Parker, Ski-Land, Marine Stadium and many more like them. I lost both of my parents the year before this build. I had the painter add a little something, so that I could continue to take them to the river and some of their other favorite places.



And finally, here is a shot of the 'finished?' project on the water last year.

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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2014, 08:33:21 AM »
Boat looks awesome man. Great craftsmanship. Do you boat on lake Powell ? I've been there a couple times and we loved it. We camped right on the water and we had my parents 26 foot Sleekcraft at the time. Best memories from there


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its got a big block, berkeley jet and just removed the seat belts to make it go faster

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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2014, 08:42:24 AM »
nice man i hope mine turns out that good
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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2014, 09:31:58 AM »
It doesn't get any better

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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2014, 09:52:51 AM »
Beautiful boat!!! Classic Eliminators are great looking boats.


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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2014, 12:00:33 PM »
Congrats! That thing looks GREAT!!🍻


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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2014, 12:04:53 PM »
great job.  what a great lookin boat, and a 4 stringer under the floor.  niiice!


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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2014, 03:14:07 PM »
Killer boat man! Love the colors project gets an A+


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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2014, 03:27:26 PM »
WOW! That green really pops on the water!!! nice job! :thumbup: :thumbup: :beer: :beer:
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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2014, 03:42:05 PM »
Sweet ride
Are you gonna come out to Laughlin area for one of the meets.



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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2014, 09:14:49 PM »
Thanks for the comments guys.  The end result has been well worth the effort involved.

And there is still more. 

Late last season I ruined the bearing in the pump due to my laziness.

Right now the pump is out. I've just received my new  bowl, shaft and AA impeller.  I decided to try a dominator set up. I've run Berkeley in the past. The pump that I just removed was an Aggressor 9 vane with Aggressor A cut impeller.  Parker gravel bars and negligent shallow water operation took its toll.

While the pump is out I decided to build an engine that belongs beneath the pro-stock style scoop.

I picked up a '71 460 block. Had it bored .030 and ordered up an Eagle rotating assembly.
4.3 steel crank. 6.8 H beam rods and 38cc dished Mahle pistons will end up as a 521 inch beast.
D0VE C heads with 72cc chambers should keep the compression ratio right near a pump gas friendly 10:1

Machine work is near complete.  I will post some pics soon.

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1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2014, 10:53:54 PM »
That is one killer float!! All the sweat and blood as surely paid off on this one.


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Re: 1977 Eliminator 20.5 Sport Cruiser
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2014, 09:15:29 AM »
Awesome boat.  I'm going for the same look with my 20.5 Caribbean.  Purple instead of green. Hopefully it will look a lot faster than it will really go! Keep us posted an any other updates.

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