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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: JordanDangerfield on June 16, 2014, 07:19:34 AM
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I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row so I can have the boat ready ASAP when I get home from tour in a couple weeks. I figure now is the time to start a project thread because I have a ton of questions.
The first thing I need to deal with is the wiring. It's a mess at the terminal block and a couple gauges aren't reading correctly so I'd prefer to rewire it all rather try to save the thirty-six year old wiring.
So, here's the question..Do I buy a new terminal block and make a new harness myself or do I just purchase the entire harness from CPP?
http://www.cpperformance.com/p-13228-terminal-block-style-complete-boat-wiring-harness.aspx
I'm capable of doing a clean wiring job myself, but I don't know where to find all the colored wires, etc locally. Do you guys have any recommendations for somewhere local to find all that stuff?
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Just take it to Dana marine, I'm sure he could get it sorted out in a week or so..........
Just order the harness. Yah your probably gonna spend a few more bucks but it's a done deal, not gonna have to search for everything and piece it together, just open the box and put it in.
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So, the boat didn't come with a fuel/water separator and it has an electronic fuel tank selector. I don't know if it even works and would prefer to run a manual valve anyway. I'm also going to add a fuel/water separator. What's a good way to mount the separator and manual valve without drilling into the transom? I was thinking of running a piece of aluminum angle across the transom that bolts in with the transom adapter bolts. That way everything can mount to that.
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The aluminum seems like a good idea, IMO... I mounted mine to transom but utilized two existing holes. Also put the ball valves on it to work as tank selector. Borrowed that idea from ka0tyk's thread.
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Forgot pics!
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On my kona that's how I mounted mine on the kona, I have some left over angle aluminum and a fuel water separator with a spin off filter if you need it.
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On my kona that's how I mounted mine on the kona, I have some left over angle aluminum and a fuel water separator with a spin off filter if you need it.
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You're the man! I'll text you about picking it up.
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Forgot pics!
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Thanks for coming through with pics! That's a sweet setup.
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Thanks for coming through with pics! That's a sweet setup.
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thanks. Anytime!
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How is water getting into the system?
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How is water getting into the system?
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It isn't.
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It isn't.
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Then why would you need a fuel/water seperator? I have one currently but am redoing my whole fuel system and I'm not planning on connecting the seperator... Is it really needed?
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Then why would you need a fuel/water seperator? I have one currently but am redoing my whole fuel system and I'm not planning on connecting the seperator... Is it really needed?
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It's more of a preventative thing.
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It isn't much to look at now, but I made a mount for the fuel water separator without drilling any new holes. I still need fittings and ball valves to plumb it. The new engine harness is hooked up and the gauges are in. My old headers were rusted to shit so the only logical option..new Twisties! I have a rebuilt pump from GS Marine to install today. I found out the nice thru-hull cable seals are actually electrical parts so I tracked down the right size to seal the PD cable. They were $5, btw. I don't want to drill into the hull so I plan on running the cable through the transom adapter. I'm thinking to the left of the B?? (Since the pic is upside down it would be to the right) Any opinions?
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I don't want to drill into the hull so I plan on running the cable through the transom adapter. I'm thinking to the left of the B?? (Since the pic is upside down it would be to the right) Any opinions?
That is how mine was originally routed, to the left of the “B”. Actually, part of the “B” was ground flush to make room for the cable clamp. I believe that there is enough room to drill and tap the transom adaptor for your seals without breaking into the “B” too much.
I really like the look of this under slung reverse bucket bracket. My setback will include similar TA plates and something like this will be integrated into the plates themselves so no additional holes will be in the fiberglass. Pictured is an E pump (different from our setups), but you get the idea.
Cheers,
Joe
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I'm going to the left of the B with it.
It was a struggle to get those old header bolts out, but after some patience I finally got them all..
I put the pump back in the boat.
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Sooooo...I messed up and bought too long of a fitting. My reasoning is that the short section of hose would absorb vibration from the motor. The only way it'll work is if I run a 45* fitting off the motor to the T. Will the T hanging off the 45* fitting be a problem?
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Here's what I ended up doing with the cable seal..
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Taking her out to Elsinore in the am.
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Good move on new headers! Best of luck bro!
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Successful day at Elsinore.
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Updates, sort of..
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Forgot pics!
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Sure hope before boat goes back in water,you slide your exhaust back on
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Check out this nastiness!! All this came out of two fuel water separator filters...
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So, how is the fuel tank cleaning going? Are you going to get it done in time for the Southwind Regatta?
Hope to see you out there.
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I'm working on it this afternoon. We'll be there!
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The clean up looks good. I like the fittings thru the transom adapter.
Dude that sucks getting towed in after all that work. Did it just plug the filter and kill the fuel supply?
Did any of that stuff get to the carbs?
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The clean up looks good. I like the fittings thru the transom adapter.
Dude that sucks getting towed in after all that work. Did it just plug the filter and kill the fuel supply?
Did any of that stuff get to the carbs?
That's exactly what happened. I haven't checked the carb filters yet, but I have another inline filter after the separator. I tapped that thing out and it was clean so that leads me to believe the carb filters are clean. I'll still check them.
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It's in pieces
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I asked Corey to fiberglass a bilge separator into the boat and this is what happens! At least it's not flipped upside down..
Yesterday was a busy day, but the boat should look a heck of a lot better when it's finished. We pulled the motor, pressure washed it, and painted it. We cut out the gas tanks, dumped all the sediment STILL left in them, and sanded off the old fiberglass and carpet glue. The fuel level sending units are corroded to shit, one was actually locked into place. The hull was soaked in degreaser then pressure washed.
And the most important part..pictures!
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The floor would look great flow coated black Jordan 👍👍👍 nice work.
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At least it's not flipped upside down
Yet....
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The floor would look great flow coated black Jordan 👍👍👍 nice work.
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. Yeah that's a great idea in a river boat 114 degrees black flo coat = blister feet for sure. I'm going with a high low shag carpet in mine. Not to mention to many beers flo coat = busted ass.
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. Yeah that's a great idea in a river boat 114 degrees black flo coat = blister feet for sure. I'm going with a high low shag carpet in mine. Not to mention to many beers flo coat = busted ass.
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Yeah, good point. But it would look good imo.
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Yeah, good point. But it would look good imo.
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Mine are flo coated grey and blue. Definitely gotta watch you step. But they do look cool if they are done smooth. All up to you Jordan. I love mine but you can easily loose your footing. Got to be on your A game if you are fetching beers in your boat.
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Mine are flo coated grey and blue. Definitely gotta watch you step. But they do look cool if they are done smooth. All up to you Jordan. I love mine but you can easily loose your footing. Got to be on your A game if you are fetching beers in your boat.
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Heres mine
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Yeah, good point. But it would look good imo.
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. Oh you are right it looks badass. Believe me it took me a while to talk myself out of it. But I have to remember that I have a family boat not a race boat.
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. Oh you are right it looks badass. Believe me it took me a while to talk myself out of it. But I have to remember that I have a family boat not a race boat.
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Ha ha me too just a mellow river cruiser. Flo coated floors look great just takes awhile getting use too👍. Keep at it Jordan!
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Where are you guys getting your flo coat from and what colors are available?
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I believe Jimpen got everything from west marine. Sure he will chime in to verify that
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I believe Jimpen got everything from west marine. Sure he will chime in a verify that
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West marine does have the flocoat. Make sure you get it with wax added. You mix the color yourself they have a lot of colors to pick from. I'm not sure it's the best place just easy for me.
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I get my stuff from Sher fab in Ontario,the staff there is super helpful. get a quart of Prestec super clear and a quart of the color gel you want. Mix 1:1 and I spray mine out of a harbor freight gun. 👍👍👍. Doing it this way should be a walk away finish. Bad photo example attached.
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Flowcoat is definitely happening now! Thank you for all the suggestions.
So my idea is to lay carpet down the center area between the stringers as well as by the driver's and passenger's feet. The stringers won't have any carpet or flow coat on them, they look nice and I like the look of the wood. I want to flowcoat the bilge as well as the area between the the stringers and fuel tanks. I know a lot of you are anti-carpet, but kids will be on this boat frequently.
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I get my stuff from Sher fab in Ontario. get a quart of Prestec super clear and a quart of the color gel you want. Mix 1:1 and I spray mine out of a harbor freight gun. 👍👍👍 the staff there is super helpful. Doing it this way should be a walk away finish. Bad photo example attached.
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I'll check out Sherfab, thanks for the info!! Do you mind posting more pics of your floor?
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I'll check out Sherfab, thanks for the info!! Do you mind posting more pics of your floor?
Yeah, I'll have to find them on my photobucket when I get home. If you have any questions shoot me a text if you still have my number 👍👍👍👍
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Might as well flip it Jordan and an and and speed coat the bottom and and and andwhile we're doing that you should pick up a blower and then hopefully
It will
Be ready for boat season 2016
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Yeah, I'll have to find them on my photobucket when I get home. If you have any questions shoot me a text if you still have my number 👍👍👍👍
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I still have it. Thank you!!
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Might as well flip it Jordan and an and and speed coat the bottom and and and andwhile we're doing that you should pick up a blower and then hopefully
It will
Be ready for boat season 2016
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Maybe when that fuck you death metal money starts rolling in...
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Making stuff shiny..
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Is this the vent for the fuel tank?
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That looks like where the pickup goes...
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I should have been more specific. What I'm referring to is the rectangular tab with the small hole in it that is welded on one side.
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I should have been more specific. What I'm referring to is the rectangular tab with the small hole in it that is welded on one side.
That rectangular strip is where the ground wire is connected to so that's your fuel level sender is grounded.
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Your gas caps is what will be vented...
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That rectangular strip is where the ground wire is connected to so that's your fuel level sender is grounded.
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Samsonite! I was way off..
The way the boat came the ground was wired from a mounting screw on the sender to the ground in the wiring harness. I'll wire the ground of the new sender to that tab. Thanks!
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Would it help to do both? Is there risk of static build up in boats?
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It has been working fine for 50 years with vented gas caps? I don't think I would try to reinvent the wheel here? Never a good idea to vent any kind of gas fumes next to a combustion engine? Just my two cents?
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I meant ground both, the sending unit, as pictured, and the tank at the welded tab, per RushinEliminator's post. Just asking, thanks.
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Wouldn't hurt a thing!!
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Now the sanding
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And now the blower motor goes in
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Day time pics.
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Nice work!
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If you're putting a subfloor in, putting drain holes in those bulkheads?
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If you're putting a subfloor in, putting drain holes in those bulkheads?
No sub floor goin in. The bilge separator has a brass threaded coupler in the bottom center of it to be used for a drain and the glass just has to be cut away from around it. That way he can either put a plug in it or put a check valve on it.
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Made some progress on the boat today. I repaired the bulkhead where it delaminated on the driver's side.
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I filled a couple unnecessary holes.
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Looking good Jordan! Floors coming out good.
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And now we have purify white floors! The pics don't do it justice.
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Looks good. Can't wait to see it finished up and on the water.
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Looks good. Can't wait to see it finished up and on the water.
Thank you, Corey and I have been working hard on it. I'll be at the May get-together.
...AND one more pic!
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I'm kinda partial to those eliminator bubble decks! 👍 looking good!
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Thank you, Corey and I have been working hard on it. I'll be at the May get-together.
...AND one more pic!
Turning out great! Seems like the floors take forever to get smooth.
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I'm kinda partial to those eliminator bubble decks! 👍 looking good!
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Nice boat! Can you post a pic of the interior?
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That's about all the pics I have of interior? We used a carbon fiber looking yellow insert in the seats
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That's perfect. I was trying to see what you did to separate the engine compartment. I'm debating whether I should stick with the cocktail seating or go with a bench when I redo the interior.
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Dang jordan, looking badass man! I'm still jealous of the deal you got on this thing... keep it up!
I went from bench style to cocktail style on my old southwind. Only problem was riding with 3 the boat would lean to the side the back seat rider was on.
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You guys are doing some great work, keep it up!
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Ditto, looks really good. Did you do "bodywork" on the inside before laying down the color? Did you clear over the stringers?
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Thanks for the compliments! After glassing the tanks and bilge separator in, the floors and stringers were hit with resin. At that point the stringers were done. The floor was sanded as even as possible with 80 grit per AJ at SherFab's instructions. Then the rest was masked and sprayed. The "flowcoat" is a 1:1 mixture of Prestec 27X1 and gelcoat.
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I figured I'd bump this since I'll be home in a few days to get the boat put together for the AVI.
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Looks great Jordan.
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Nice looking Eliminator... I had to double take.
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Very similar. Makes me want to paint the trailer white.
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Can out so good Jordan! Can't wait to see it at AVI!! 👍👍
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Nice looking Eliminator... I had to double take.
makes me want to put a hitch on the cts-v 😜
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