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Title: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 06, 2016, 12:16:47 PM
Short story on this boat, I bought this boat brand new in Feb 1986, we ran it for over 20 years and decided we needed a bigger boat, sold it in 2007 to a guy in Albequerqe New Mexico.
saw it for sale last summer in New Mexico and me and my son drove out there and bought it back. Memorial day this year motor gave out, perfect time to start this build.
Pulled motor, pump,interior and did some clean up, after work today it is going to B-1 for Chris to start on it! Here are some pics to start with.
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: azadvantage on October 06, 2016, 04:18:28 PM
Looks awesome !! I love these hulls, great riding boats. I have a 1983 advantage with the open bow version. One of my favorite boats I've ever owned. I have a 1/4 stringer though. They must of put the full stringers in the closed bows. Keep posting pictures


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: 08chevyguy on October 06, 2016, 05:34:06 PM
i dont blame ya and would have got it back too. its beautiful. good luck with her and i look forward to watching it get put back together
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: crewchief22 on October 06, 2016, 08:37:17 PM
Looking forward to seeing the progress.  From what I've heard, its going to be a very cool project.

Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 07, 2016, 06:40:52 AM
 dropped it off yesterday, Chris is going to remove the intake and reset it back a liitle further, installing a jet away, new shaft,impeller,inducer,shoe/ride plate, upgrading to a hydraulic place diverter
and calgo steering with extended steering post. The stringers,bilge area,transom and front toe kick area will all be getting sprayed black. Also getting new rail kit and moving motor ahead a couple of inches.
I will be posting pics as I receive them from Chris. The goal at this point is to be ready for the Bluewater race in Feb and posibly run the NJBA season next year
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: Kroggy3771 on October 07, 2016, 07:02:05 AM

dropped it off yesterday, Chris is going to remove the intake and reset it back a liitle further, installing a jet away, new shaft,impeller,inducer,shoe/ride plate, upgrading to a hydraulic place diverter
and calgo steering with extended steering post. The stringers,bilge area,transom and front toe kick area will all be getting sprayed black. Also getting new rail kit and moving motor ahead a couple of inches.
I will be posting pics as I receive them from Chris. The goal at this point is to be ready for the Bluewater race in Feb and posibly run the NJBA season next year

Awesome can't wait to see it finished. My boat is also at B-1 right now.


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 07, 2016, 09:15:44 AM
Awesome can't wait to see it finished. My boat is also at B-1 right now.


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Which one was yours?
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: Kroggy3771 on October 07, 2016, 10:26:14 AM

Which one was yours?

The open bow charcoal gray and lime green Shockwave


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 07, 2016, 11:17:56 AM
The open bow charcoal gray and lime green Shockwave


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your old motor was out on a pallet and they were working on some new motor plates etc. nice boat, my buddy has one just like it but with a small block/outdrive package for power
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: Kroggy3771 on October 07, 2016, 12:10:28 PM

your old motor was out on a pallet and they were working on some new motor plates etc. nice boat, my buddy has one just like it but with a small block/outdrive package for power

Thanks brotha. Yeah getting rail kit, motor mounts, and pump work done for a new motor going in it


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: 88 Baker on October 07, 2016, 12:25:46 PM
Looks good. Can Only Get Better!! Good Luck N Keep It Posted!!


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 07, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
Thanks brotha. Yeah getting rail kit, motor mounts, and pump work done for a new motor going in it


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Chris was telling me about your new motor, that thing should rip!
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: mach1_557 on October 26, 2016, 06:09:33 PM
A pic from b1 from last week
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: capogniracing on October 26, 2016, 06:44:18 PM

A pic from b1 from last week
Gonna be a Bitchin boat when finished!


BECKY WITH THE GOOD HAIR!
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: TrollerDave on October 26, 2016, 09:26:04 PM
Clean looking boat. I remember seeing it in Hot Boat years ago.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 27, 2016, 11:06:26 AM
A pic from b1 from last week


Thanks John, how's Larry liking the cp? Stevie has shown me pics of you and him at different events
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 27, 2016, 11:35:49 AM
Chris sent me a bunch of pics, had some oil impregnated wood that had to be removed and some glass work to be done, pump is back together,steering post adapter steering post coming along,
they are going to start on rail kit etc., while all stuff is at powder coating Chris is going to take it to the glass shop to spray stringers,bilge,transom and bulk head black
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 27, 2016, 11:42:45 AM
more pics
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 27, 2016, 11:48:08 AM
and more
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: Kroggy3771 on October 27, 2016, 11:50:03 AM
Coming together very nice. Looks great


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: 08chevyguy on October 27, 2016, 04:10:33 PM
absolutely gorgeous boat! gonna be killer!!! keep the pics coming
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on October 28, 2016, 01:19:11 PM
got a couple more pics today
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 08, 2016, 09:13:47 AM
Update, went to see mom and dad for thanksgiving and took the boat with me, dropped it off @ Advantage Boats to get glass work done, They started on it yesterday, removed rub rail
to cap boat, also will be repairing inside of gunnels where the original interior had wore down the gel, spray stringers,bilge area,bulkhead and transom black.
Motor longblock is done, will post pics when I get them or go to Team C instagrm page, it's the 540 being built
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 09, 2016, 08:16:37 AM
more pics from Advantage
capping in progress, had 2 stress cracks in back corners that were ground out
filling 4 holes where overboard water,bilge,forward reverse and place diverter cables were
hydraulic place diverter hoses will come through transom adapter
were going to relocate where the overboard water is, need it to be further away from the pump so we can catch it with a bucket at the races durng warm up
and it was discoloring the pump
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 09, 2016, 08:27:30 AM
The serious end to this project!
It helps when one of your best freinds owns a hi-performance center!
Team-C in Bellflower is doing the motor
it's a 540 with lightened crankshaft, 12.1 to 1 comp.
4-7 swap roller camshaft (card attached) milodon gear drive
edelbrock victor jr heads
dart t-ram with holley hp1050 carbs
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 09, 2016, 08:42:00 AM
to top it off
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: FordLover on December 09, 2016, 08:46:05 AM
Sick! Looking sweet!
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 09, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Sick! Looking sweet!

thanks
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 09, 2016, 02:02:56 PM
towing the boat all the way to Havasu is paying off, not only was it cheaper thant other shops around so cal, they are banging it out!
Bob is sending me pics daily, here are some more
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: 88 Baker on December 10, 2016, 08:51:34 AM
Bob is a Great Guy. Helps me out her n St. Louis Mo. B call n her n just a bit about the rudder that's missing on the bottom of my hull. U got a Great look n Float Go On!! Do a 650 hp 496 n a rebuild on pump with mine now. Just for a few more Ticks!!


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 10, 2016, 11:20:43 AM
Bob is a Great Guy. Helps me out her n St. Louis Mo. B call n her n just a bit about the rudder that's missing on the bottom of my hull. U got a Great look n Float Go On!! Do a 650 hp 496 n a rebuild on pump with mine now. Just for a few more Ticks!!


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Advantage 20.5 classic?
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: 88 Baker on December 10, 2016, 11:27:40 AM
Yes 1988. Drove out to Havasu n picked her up from original owner stored indoors her entire life maybe 200 hrs on Her. Like new. Couldn't be happier. Searched 4 yrs n more miles than I care to say to get there n find a piece of Shit. Not what I was sent pics of. N I'll leave it at that.


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 16, 2016, 08:36:11 AM
more pics from Advantage
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: JordanDangerfield on December 16, 2016, 09:23:09 AM
Clean AF!!!!


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: 88 Baker on December 16, 2016, 01:23:52 PM
Dats Sweet!! Be Even Better Back N The H2O!!


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on December 23, 2016, 10:21:10 AM
more pics from Advantage-Merry X-mas everyone!
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: JordanDangerfield on December 23, 2016, 11:56:45 AM
Great meeting you yesterday Steve. You're putting together a beautiful boat.


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: TrollerDave on December 23, 2016, 04:01:49 PM
more pics from Advantage-Merry X-mas everyone!

It seems someone made it on Santa's nice list.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on January 19, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
update time, made it through the holidays, my helper (son) piled it up at Superstition Sand Dunes on new years day, dislocated his hip and fractured 3 vertebre's so got some help
coming over this weekend. we picked up the boat last friday from Advantage and got the rail kit and motor plates from B-1
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on January 19, 2017, 09:54:41 AM
dislocated hip or not! here's a chair and some polish
February is coming fast and we have to finish
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 17, 2017, 09:00:33 AM
another update, sons all healed up and a lot has happened, we dynoed motor on  Vrbansic brothers dyno, 815hp and 725 ft lbs @6600, perfect for the jet boat!
installed motor and took boat back to b-1 for Chris to finish his part, he installed pump,calgo,heavy duty diverter pump, made bracket to support  front seats.
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 17, 2017, 09:03:55 AM
started wiring and plumbing trying to make Blue Water race in Feb.
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 17, 2017, 09:11:47 AM
Got to busy and couldn't make Feb at Blue Water, we did make NJBA's first race in March, after a couple of license passes sat morning went into qualifying
at end of Saturday #1 qualifier with a 10.05! letting out going through the lights.
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 17, 2017, 09:15:10 AM
probably my favorite pic, the Advantage taking off with my old Flat "ON-RE!" on the rope
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 17, 2017, 09:21:25 AM
we ran 2 classes this weekend 10.0 and super "e", boat was being super consistent sat afternoon 1st rd of super we dialed in a 9.80 and ran a 9.82
sun morning dialed in a 9.79 and ran a 9.79 next round we broke out or got beat can't remember. Went a couple of rounds in 10.0 and broke out running a 9.96
All weekend we needed to slow boat down but didn't really know how to access msd box to set limiters.
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 17, 2017, 09:36:04 AM
NJBA April race, Got a tuning lesson from Chris and was ready to get after it at this race! We set when the diverter was going to start coming up one tenth of a second faster
a put a rev limiter on it for a couple of thenths. 1st pass off the trailer thing went 9.85 at 102, ok now let's put some more rev limiter in it and try to get to the magic # of 10.0
next round it started to misfire and make some noise on the rope, WTF! drove it to other end and put it on the trailer, start pulling plugs etc. #2 cylinder spark plug looks
all beat up. Exhaust seat cam out of head, should have known better than try and run my old heads that were fixed once before! So pulled motor back out, got some new brodix
heads, had to bore block .030 and 8 new pistons. So this is where we are now, block was bored earlier this week, heads are polished and being worked on and motor will be re-assembled.
Back to dyno and see where we are.  In the meantime we are trying to finish the stuff we didn't have time to do, replace bunks on trailer, get carpet installed in boat, get Brian over
to do lettering etc etc. Should be back 1st of August and do some river time with it and see where we will get on the top 10 list! last pic it's sitting on see-doo cart in my garage
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: 08chevyguy on June 17, 2017, 10:47:07 AM
I love this boat. She is a beauty!!!
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 18, 2017, 08:55:57 AM
I love this boat. She is a beauty!!!

thanks
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 21, 2017, 12:45:16 PM
new heads getting worked on, 1 down and one to go
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on June 21, 2017, 12:51:32 PM
getting boat back on trailer
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: Scottydoo on June 27, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
Awesome!! Sweet sled!

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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on July 01, 2017, 08:29:11 AM

Awesome!! Sweet sled!

THanks
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on July 01, 2017, 08:31:43 AM
Carpets in!

Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on July 01, 2017, 08:34:45 AM

had them make a cover for the bulkhead access
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: River Dad on July 02, 2017, 09:38:48 AM
One hell of a project!!!   Great job and a killer thread....    beautiful boat
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on July 02, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
Thanks Jason, I wish I could pull the trigger on that dolly trailer! 2 more years of college tuition for our daughter and the trailer I got isn't  in that bad of shape,
 I replaced the bent axle and re-did the bunks for now
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on April 14, 2020, 01:14:33 PM
lets get this back to the top! here's some accomplishments since this build
2018 NJBA high points champ M/E 10.0 class and runner up in Super "E" Dennis Capogni with Becky was super e champ
2017 Horsepower fest best V Bottom jet  boat
2019 Horsepower fest best V Bottom jet boat
2019 endless summer regatta best V Bottom jet boat
We won the Lucas oil Battle in Bakersfield(1st and only time Lucas raced at Bakersfield)

Special thanks to Lance for driving the boat and Stevie for helping with all the maint and tuning
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on April 14, 2020, 01:20:02 PM
after all that we got a wild hair up our ass and thought why not try the 9.0 class
it took a season to get it worked out, but the last race of the season we brought home the goods
winner in super "e" and runner up in 9.0
would have won 9.0 but we broke out with a 8.98[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on April 14, 2020, 01:25:12 PM
[attachimg=1]even made the NJBA flyer for a race
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: TrollerDave on April 14, 2020, 01:48:00 PM
Congrats on a beautiful boat and the accomplishments with it.
I remember seeing the feature in Hot Boat. I always thought it was a good looking, well built boat. Good job.


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Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on April 14, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
the race that set up the 2018 season  ADBA at Bluewater, we had raced the 2017 season but had problems, trashed a set of heads, trashed a set of rods, had to take the 540 and make it a 548, put on the Brodix heads, re-dynode, 847 hp, we won the 8.0 (1000 ft) class and runner up in super e, Justin Perkins in white blown flat won, think we broke out, anyway we
had to beat some heavy hitters to win this, we left Parker with some spring in our step and went on to win the 2018 NJBA season
Title: Re: 1986 Advantage
Post by: If Looks Could Kill on April 14, 2020, 02:07:09 PM
Congrats on a beautiful boat and the accomplishments with it.
I remember seeing the feature in Hot Boat. I always thought it was a good looking, well built boat. Good job




Thanks, it was a lot of work, and it was/is still a great father son project, my son is going to start driving it if we ever get back to racing, 1st 2 races have been cancelled this year




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