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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: sevans01 on October 29, 2013, 07:10:18 PM
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First full day of work, with many more to come
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Removed gauges, steering, forward/reverse, pump, and the rest of the carpet under the bow.
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Next on the list remove intake, sub floor, stingers, give a good wash, then start sanding
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I'd try to save the gel on it before shooting it with paint
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It is saveable
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I'd try to save the gel on it before shooting it with paint
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x2 little color sand and buff will make that thing bitchen again. So what if there's a re scratches on it. 👍👍
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As much as the colors are kinda growing on me. I'm not too sure it's savable, we'll have to see.
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Based on the pictures if a good color sand and buff doesn't bring it back you can always just have a clear shot over it. Bam all shiny again. Thing would look awesome if it was restored to its retro styling
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Removed floor and found pizza dough.
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There's more behind the bulkhead
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Slowly but surely
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lookin good! an angle grinder with a wire wheel will have that floor lookin clean in no time! love the progress pix! ^-^
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Are those stripes gel coat? They look like paint to me. If they're paint, they may not be easily salvageable, at least not like new. Nice looking project though.
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Sanger generally did a single color lay up and painted the seam area in lacquer. That's why it's common to see the painted areas around the fuel fillers jacked up.
Good start to what looks like an ambitious project :o Good luck and looking forward to the progress pics.
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Another problem Sangers had, is they tend to crack under the drivers seat. Looks like a line there along the strake. Is that a seam in the glass or a crack?
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Thanks for everyone's tips! This hole project is going to be a learning process for me.
The stripes are painted on like crewchief stated. I'm not a paint guy so I don't know if the stripes can be sanded down to get to the gel, or just paint over em. I haven't found any cracks in the hull. There are some areas along the bottom where the glass is thin from I would think beaching it.
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No cracks thats good.
The beaching has probably just worn through the gel so the light shines through.
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Thanks for everyone's tips! This hole project is going to be a learning process for me.
The stripes are painted on like crewchief stated. I'm not a paint guy so I don't know if the stripes can be sanded down to get to the gel, or just paint over em. I haven't found any cracks in the hull. There are some areas along the bottom where the glass is thin from I would think beaching it.
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You should be able to just sand them off. Otherwise I would shoot a sealer coat over them before applying any paint. Today's paints are much different than the paints were back them. They're more sensitive and can do weird things if the prep isn't right. If your not doing your own paint work, I'm sure your painter will have a handle on dealing with them. Since there's no historical value in trying to save this paint scheme, I would just make it what ever you want it to be.
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Close up of paint. After thinking about it, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get rid of the stripes
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Before I get a little to far ahead of myself. I'd like to get some input/opinions. I've been throwing the idea around in my head about full length stringers. 1/4 stringers in it now seem to be in great shape. I'm not putting in a big hp eng. when this thing is done. I guess full length is not necessary unless producing big power. True? Another thing that the hamster has been spinning is. Setting back the pump. I know I'll have to reglass the intake, which equals a lot of work. Would it all be worth it?
From what I've read so far is that Sanger purpose a lot depending on set up. Would putting full stringers and setting the pump back help with the purpose?
When I get home I'll get a snap a couple pics of the stringers.
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Well, if it were me? I would do the stringers. But I've done a few sets. Just takes time and a lot of work.
The set back..... Is that Sanger a delta pad?? If so, I wouldn't do it. Are you going to pull the intake and have it cut for a shoe and ride plate???
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The set back..... Is that Sanger a delta pad?? If so, I wouldn't do it. Are you going to pull the intake and have it cut for a shoe and ride plate???
I'll have to get back to you about the delta pad. Shoe and ride plate are on the list to have done
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SuperJets are a delta pad hull
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SuperJets are a delta pad hull
Cool, thanks for the info!
Out of curiosity. How's your boat set up/ ride?
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I have a mild(very) 460 ford and a newly rebuilt pump. I only took it out once this summer and changed the plate angle. With the old set up. The plate was 1 degree down and the boat rode very wet at almost 75(gps confirmed) the season I raised the plate to 1 degree up and the boat freed up a ton. No gps numbers because it was a holiday weekend and the water was a little rough. I also attribute the wet ride to the fact that I have a bit of water logged foam under my sub floor. This summer I plan to really do some hardware adjustments(money allowing) I would like to hit 80. Which I hope isn't to much of a stretch.
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Also im running a standard rock grate
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I have a mild(very) 460 ford and a newly rebuilt pump. I only took it out once this summer and changed the plate angle. With the old set up. The plate was 1 degree down and the boat rode very wet at almost 75(gps confirmed) the season I raised the plate to 1 degree up and the boat freed up a ton. No gps numbers because it was a holiday weekend and the water was a little rough. I also attribute the wet ride to the fact that I have a bit of water logged foam under my sub floor. This summer I plan to really do some hardware adjustments(money allowing) I would like to hit 80. Which I hope isn't to much of a stretch.
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Cool thanks for the info!
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If your looking to go fast Sevans I have a 871 with a ford manifold on my bench
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Also if you are in fact looking to go fast. Check your hull. Almost all Superjets I have seen have a slight hook in them, mine included. That will have to go
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Also if you are in fact looking to go fast. Check your hull. Almost all Superjets I have seen have a slight hook in them, mine included. That will have to go
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time for me to man-up and ask....
I have heard lots of you speak of a hook in the hull,
what (so a nube would understand) is this ? :screwy:
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time for me to man-up and ask....
I have heard lots of you speak of a hook in the hull,
what (so a nube would understand) is this ? :screwy:
Hook; a concave depression in the bottom of the hull typically in the rear flat areas between the strakes. They act similarly to trim tabs in the down position.
Rocker; a convex bump in the same area that a hook would be.
Hooks were used by many manufacturers to eliminate ill handling hulls due to porpoise issues. Also made driving the boat more idiot proof.
Rocker was used to help carry more bow lift. These can be sketchy to drive.
You are more than likely to desire a flat keel line vs. either a hook or rocker. More user friendly and easier to tune.
GT
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got it....thx again GT :beer:
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Well over the past couple days I got the stringers and bulkhead out. I'm pretty sure I made it harder then it needed to be, but o'well it's done! I also started grinding out the rest of the subfloor.
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Nice job bud! Looking really good!
Word of advice. When you start sanding. Get lots of white suits and a good respirator. That fiberglass dust is worse than clay dust I work with.
Also, if you don't want to be super itchy after working with that crap. Baby powder on your arms and face before you woke with it, cold shower after. It keeps the glass dust out of your pores.
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Hook; a concave depression in the bottom of the hull typically in the rear flat areas between the strakes. They act similarly to trim tabs in the down position.
Rocker; a convex bump in the same area that a hook would be.
Hooks were used by many manufacturers to eliminate ill handling hulls due to porpoise issues. Also made driving the boat more idiot proof.
Rocker was used to help carry more bow lift. These can be sketchy to drive.
You are more than likely to desire a flat keel line vs. either a hook or rocker. More user friendly and easier to tune.
GT
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so when you talk about hook and rocker how much of the rear of boat are we talking 12" 24 "
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so when you talk about hook and rocker how much of the rear of boat are we talking 12" 24 "
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Really depends on the builder and boat type, but more often then not you will see it on the last 12"or so, just in front of the transom.
GT
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Nice job bud! Looking really good!
Word of advice. When you start sanding. Get lots of white suits and a good respirator. That fiberglass dust is worse than clay dust I work with.
Also, if you don't want to be super itchy after working with that crap. Baby powder on your arms and face before you woke with it, cold shower after. It keeps the glass dust out of your pores.
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Good looking out Jake thanks :beer: :beer:
Got the intake and ride plate removed
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Also was able to get the rest of the subfloor and foam out! It was getting dark I'll post a better pic. Damn time change :thumbdown:
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No problem Buddy! Looking good man! Getting after it!
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Great looking boat! :thumbup:
I'm gonna be watching this thread like a hawk. Good luck and keep the updates coming..................... john
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Great looking boat! :thumbup:
Thanks!
A better pic of the rest of the subfloor and foam out.
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Was the foam under the deck wet? There's similar foam under the deck of ours
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Was the foam under the deck wet? There's similar foam under the deck of ours
Yeah it was wet. I think partly because of me, and also because the guy had it outside uncovered for who knows how long.
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Any updates on this project Sevans01?
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Any updates on this project Sevans01?
Nah sorry Jake. Another member and I tore into the Carrera and found a bigger problem than expected. So now I have two projects going on haha! As funds run low there's plenty of grinding for me.
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Nah sorry Jake. Another member and I tore into the Carrera and found a bigger problem than expected. So now I have two projects going on haha! As funds run low there's plenty of grinding for me.
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what happened to the carrera
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what happened to the carrera
Pulled the heads to replace the gaskets, then found quite a bit of water and rust in a couple of the cylinders. Gonna pull the eng and pan to see if there's any major damage. Heads are getting cleaned and magnafluxed, and gonna replace anything that needs it. So basically rebuilding the eng!
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Pulled the heads to replace the gaskets, then found quite a bit of water and rust in a couple of the cylinders. Gonna pull the eng and pan to see if there's any major damage. Heads are getting cleaned and magnafluxed, and gonna replace anything that needs it. So basically rebuilding the eng!
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stroke it!!!! Lol
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Haha I wish!
Here's my milky mess
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Haha I wish!
Here's my milky mess
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ya that's not good
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Got off my ass and figured this things not gonna sand itself! Little done a lot more to go.
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Got the transom out over the last couple days. A lot of work for one stinking pic haha!
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Got the transom out over the last couple days. A lot of work for one stinking pic haha!
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back at it I like it looks good brother
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back at it I like it looks good brother
Thanks Wes! Deffinantly a good learning experience.
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Thanks Wes! Deffinantly a good learning experience.
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yes it is I'm lovin ot
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Short collation video of my slow process ;D
http://youtu.be/osIaSVY1vKo (http://youtu.be/osIaSVY1vKo)
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Looks great bro!! I hope to have a project like that one day soon.. :D :beer:
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You tube blocked your video
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Looks great bro!! I hope to have a project like that one day soon.. :D :beer:
Thanks its slow going for sure
You tube blocked your video
Its not blocked, but it will not let change the setting to be able to view on a mobile (If thats what you were doing)
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I just watched it..lol
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Yeah on my phone
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