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JARVIS

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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2015, 05:56:53 PM »


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last time, and only time, i ran my boat it was at perris.....back in 2013 i believe.  told my boat to bend over and cough.....but didnt ask to fire engine.

back then checks consisted of visual inspection of trailer....they asked me to pull bilge plug....open engine hatch....and that was it.  no safety gear, no engine start.....which im sure i would have failed then.  i didnt drain the block/exhaust....in fact, i stopped short of booth out of sight to double check bilge....sure enough, water.  i quickly dried it....and proceeded to inspection.


i knew before hand they were serious about evidence of water.  cant even wash your boat the day before....i avoid puddles and sprinklers on my way there....

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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2015, 07:32:06 PM »
Update on my situation...I called this morning and they told me to remove the cable and Mail the tag back to them.


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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2015, 11:27:02 PM »
dang....

couldve cut the cable long ago.....wow.

figures....
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ghett0man

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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2015, 12:18:26 PM »
Yeah. But it was only a week and I didn't have a trip planned. Didn't wanna risk it.


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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2015, 12:42:43 PM »
They made me do the same thing at Big Bear.  Just made me put my boat on this stupid water pump for 15min.  Hot water at that.  Watching my temp gage rise very high sucked ass.

What harm would that do?   I don't see the concern, we used to run steam through engines all the time. It won't hurt anything...



This is redickeless quarantine in Cali for a boat that comes from vegas to Cali to run on the local lakes what the hell I call at least 10 different lakes by Ventura,Oxnard area and every body said that your boat has to stay here for 20 to 30 days ****.

Makes sense to me.... I don't get the fuss...


Just had to comment.

If this issue gets out of hand more than it already has, it will completely destroy the water supply infrastructure of many cities within California.

I have seen first hand at what these little fukkers can do.

The alternative is for the public officials to shut down recreational boating for good on any lakes, it's not a right, it's a privilege. It's been done before, the lakes aren't there for boating, it's there for a healthy water supply. 90% of the public could give two shits if you were allowed to go boating. Be grateful we have what we do. Stop being a snivley taker.

Take this issue seriously, you cannot even bring a boat into Idaho without going through an inspection... Not at all. And they can and do quarantine you if you fail. Drastic measures have to be taken.

A few examples of what these little bastards can do...







It's real guys, I guarantee you it's not a money maker for California.

Nevada just missed the warning signs. It had to start somewhere... We don't have the water resources to screw around...

Rant over. Sorry if I offend.... (not really).

GT
« Last Edit: July 18, 2015, 12:44:49 PM by GT Jets »
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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2015, 12:54:32 PM »
Even with a jetaway, they would make you put it in gear, actual forward motion!
The person, a few cars in front of me... Had an outboard, they made him put the propeller in forward motion!!
Totally unsafe

It's absolutely ridiculous to have to start the engine in the first place!! If the bilge is dry and the boat is spotless... It fair to"assume" that the boat is clean!
No need to ruin people's day, and have a huge line of people for inspection just to turn everyone away who doesn't have a bow cable for the lake!

Best part of my "fail" receipt - the inspector marked
Last time in water - NEW!
Lake last launched at - Never, brand new!!


Let's not even mention how mad I was!



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If the boat was built in Nevada or Arizona, it very well could have been contaminated.

Not saying I'm not sorry for the trouble, but it only takes one boat.

No one has come up with a solution, this is what we have. I understand it and work around it.

GT
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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2015, 01:50:47 PM »
Aww sh!t, Dad's home.      I wondered when an adult was gonna throw water on this fire.    GT is right, the problem is here, it is serious, and it isn't going away for a long long time.
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RushinEliminator17

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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2015, 01:53:48 PM »

If the boat was built in Nevada or Arizona, it very well could have been contaminated.

Not saying I'm not  d=sorry for the trouble, but it only takes one boat.

No one has come up with a solution, this is what we have. I understand it and work around it.

GT

My boat was originally built in San Fernando valley, and then restored in San Fernando valley as well. It's a Spectra

 LV/AZ have not been part of this boats history for at least the last 12 years. Hadn't been in the water for 10 before I got it, and I restored it over two years time.

I understand, and respect their inspections... There is a reasonable procedure that should be followed, and not crossed into ridiculousness...
Starting the engine on the trailer, and putting it into gear, mind you... Is just plain ridiculous and foolish

My boat was absolutely dry everywhere!!
But starting the motor dripped a drop on the ground...

And my "new " boat failed.
 


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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2015, 02:10:45 PM »
My boat was originally built in San Fernando valley, and then restored in San Fernando valley as well. It's a Spectra

 LV/AZ have not been part of this boats history for at least the last 12 years. Hadn't been in the water for 10 before I got it, and I restored it over two years time.

I understand, and respect their inspections... There is a reasonable procedure that should be followed, and not crossed into ridiculousness...
Starting the engine on the trailer, and putting it into gear, mind you... Is just plain ridiculous and foolish

My boat was absolutely dry everywhere!!
But starting the motor dripped a drop on the ground...

And my "new " boat failed.
 


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Here's the thing. I understand what you are saying, at the same time, do you have any idea how many times this has been said "it's brand new, never been in the water"?...

Better safe than sorry, if California has done ANYTHING right over the last ten years, it is the actions on this epidemic. I still see room for improvement. It may still be all for not, meaning it will have been for nothing if total buy off is not met.

GT
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RushinEliminator17

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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2015, 02:18:03 PM »

Here's the thing. I understand what you are saying, at the same time, do you have any idea how many times this has been said "it's brand new, never been in the water"?...

Better safe than sorry, if California has done ANYTHING right over the last ten years, it is the actions on this epidemic. I still see room for improvement. It may still be all for not, meaning it will have been for nothing if total buy off is not met.

GT

Common sense on inspectors behalf is most important!!
My boat didn't have a THING in it... Not even a rope...nothing!! Everything was in my truck, spotless for their high power microscopes
Carpet easily passes for operating room sterility!

Oh, and registration papers completed day prior👍🏻

What I'm saying is what they are doing is right! But inspect correctly, and use common sense!!

Please! Explain the necessity to put the vessel in gear? 




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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2015, 02:44:26 PM »
Common sense on inspectors behalf is most important!!
My boat didn't have a THING in it... Not even a rope...nothing!! Everything was in my truck, spotless for their high power microscopes
Carpet easily passes for operating room sterility!

Oh, and registration papers completed day prior👍🏻

What I'm saying is what they are doing is right! But inspect correctly, and use common sense!!

Please! Explain the necessity to put the vessel in gear? 

You said common sense... In a government official? Are you on crack?

You got me on the in gear thing. It's simply retarded.  :screwy:

If someone asked my to start my boat dry on the road, I would simply load up my shit and leave, but not before writing Moonbeam a nasty letter stating my distrust in the people they have running the show.

But that would be my choice. Most of the time it is an interpretation issue... Sort of like Facebook, you can say one thing and more often than not it's taken a totally different direction.

GT
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RushinEliminator17

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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2015, 02:59:54 PM »

You said common sense... In a government official? Are you on crack?

You got me on the in gear thing. It's simply retarded.  :screwy:

If someone asked my to start my boat dry on the road, I would simply load up my shit and leave, but not before writing Moonbeam a nasty letter stating my distrust in the people they have running the show.

But that would be my choice. Most of the time it is an interpretation issue... Sort of like Facebook, you can say one thing and more often than not it's taken a totally different direction.

GT

You know why government officials lack common sense...

Like I indicated before... The system!
They are just there as puppets! They do what they are told- no common sense!

Exactly why so many jobs are getting replaced with robots

Some idiot above her told her you must do this this and this... And she does it. Without actually thinking about why the hell she's asking one to do such things!

Writing and appealing any of these irrational decisions takes a lot more time than I care to invest.




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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2015, 03:04:28 PM »
You know why government officials lack common sense...

Like I indicated before... The system!
They are just there as puppets! They do what they are told- no common sense!

Exactly why so many jobs are getting replaced with robots

Some idiot above her told her you must do this this and this... And she does it. Without actually thinking about why the hell she's asking one to do such things!

Writing and appealing any of these irrational decisions takes a lot more time than I care to invest.




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No argument from me, I actually just this week had to educate a building inspector on four different things on a job I just did, he was trying to get me to change a bunch of stuff that would have been not only expensive, but against the codes he was trying to protect.

When it was all said and done and the paper signed I asked him how in the hell did he get this job? He just smiled and said he was a former contractor and was on disability so he could no longer do the physical work....   :thumbdown:

Figures...

GT
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JARVIS

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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2015, 04:51:09 PM »
Aww sh!t, Dad's home.     


Ha ....nowhat thats funny right there.....


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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2015, 06:06:45 PM »
Got a couple ligament questions:

If you have a jet-a-way, how would anyone know if you have it engaged or not?

On a jet boat, are they looking to see the reverse bucket go up and down?  Does anyone look to see if the impeller is actually spinning?

I have never seen a car start cold that didn't have a few drops of condensation drip from the exhaust.  Granted, I have never thought to look for this on a boat, but I can't imagine that it wouldn't occur there also.  Does that mean that everything automatically fails, even if new?

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2015, 06:20:34 PM »
Got a couple ligament questions:

If you have a jet-a-way, how would anyone know if you have it engaged or not?

On a jet boat, are they looking to see the reverse bucket go up and down?  Does anyone look to see if the impeller is actually spinning?

I have never seen a car start cold that didn't have a few drops of condensation drip from the exhaust.  Granted, I have never thought to look for this on a boat, but I can't imagine that it wouldn't occur there also.  Does that mean that everything automatically fails, even if new?

Thanks,

Joe

Legitimate. ;D

I have already sent an email to a buddy of mine who is on the California Parks Ranger service.

Looking for some answers myself.

GT
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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2015, 06:27:53 PM »
Legitimate. ;D

GT

Meaning I am not trying to poke fun.  I seriously want to know.
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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2015, 06:36:54 PM »
Meaning I am not trying to poke fun.  I seriously want to know.

You wrote "ligament". I was poking fun .....

Hahaha...
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Re: Boat quarantine in Cali
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2015, 06:46:49 PM »
Twice I missed that.  I will blame that on my cell phone.
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