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Mrblueeyesnick

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A decision to make?!?!?
« on: June 25, 2014, 09:13:53 PM »
I am in the middle of having to make a decision. The 454 that I have right now is in need of a very big very expensive rebuild and that's not taking into concentration if I have a cracked head or block. I have been searching on line for a new engine. I have found two, a Chevy 468 and a ford 460. I'm kinda bias towards fords but the Chevy is another good option. The ford has more upgrades but the Chevy is a newer rebuild. The ford I would have to get different mounts and bellhousing but that would be just about all I would have to change. Both engines are complete. I just wanted to know everyone's opinion on what you all think? Thanks everyone


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Mrblueeyesnick

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Re: A decision to make?!?!?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 09:16:54 PM »
Here are some pictures I forgot to add. The one with the tunnel ram is the ford 460 and the other one is the Chevy 468


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GlassCutter

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Re: A decision to make?!?!?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2014, 09:24:31 PM »
http://highflowdynamics.com/
On the home page you will find a link for all the many reasons why the FORD is superior to the GM from an engineering standpoint.  I think if you compare the prices on parts you will often find the Ford is cheaper to fix than the BBC too.  Bowtie guys lose sleep over this stuff but it is hard to argue with Paul's facts.

Anybody  notice GM announced yet another recall today?  Un freaking believable.
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ka0tyk

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Re: A decision to make?!?!?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 09:52:04 PM »
you're wanting to buy a used motor thats realistically in unknown condition... a mystery.  it could break tomorrow.  tear down the motor you have, you can do it yourself and figure out where you're at.  getting a block magged to check for cracks isnt very costly and then and ONLY then can you make an educated decision rather than just throwing money into another problem...
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GT Jets

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Re: A decision to make?!?!?
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2014, 09:55:04 PM »
you're wanting to buy a used motor thats realistically in unknown condition... a mystery.  it could break tomorrow.  tear down the motor you have, you can do it yourself and figure out where you're at.  getting a block magged to check for cracks isnt very costly and then and ONLY then can you make an education decision rather than just throwing money into another problem...

X2, It could already be puked.

Wouldn't matter if it wasn't. I would still tear it completely down and build it and check balance and whatnot.

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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Busto

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Re: A decision to make?!?!?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2014, 10:29:36 AM »

http://highflowdynamics.com/
On the home page you will find a link for all the many reasons why the FORD is superior to the GM from an engineering standpoint.  I think if you compare the prices on parts you will often find the Ford is cheaper to fix than the BBC too.  Bowtie guys lose sleep over this stuff but it is hard to argue with Paul's facts.

Anybody  notice GM announced yet another recall today?  Un freaking believable.

Are you serious?  Did you just pull the Ford is better than Chevy card? 

The best and safest way to repower his boat would to remove his old 454 disassemble and have a reputable shop rebuild it. This way he can set actual power and usage goals.


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HaulsBalls

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Re: A decision to make?!?!?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2014, 12:11:11 PM »
Are you serious?  Did you just pull the Ford is better than Chevy card? 

The best and safest way to repower his boat would to remove his old 454 disassemble and have a reputable shop rebuild it. This way he can set actual power and usage goals.


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I once had this mentality!  The unknown can be scary for some but once you do your own research there are many plus's and minus's on both ends.  Fords have tons of potential even in stock form.

One thing to keep in mind with a Chevy to Ford swap is mounts, just because your Chevy worked doesn't always mean the same angle and mounting location of a Ford fall into place.  Not trying to discourage you from doing so but it should be looked at if you go that route just to be sure.  I would consider diving into what you have and to see what it's actually going to cost.  Just know that there are always Chevy's and Chevy parts for sale around every corner to put it back together. Just my .02

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Busto

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Re: A decision to make?!?!?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2014, 12:19:07 PM »

I once had this mentality!  The unknown can be scary for some but once you do your own research there are many plus's and minus's on both ends.  Fords have tons of potential even in stock form.

Sure Fords are great. There are tons of proven Fords in boats that have performed for decades. I think his major issue is price. It's always a factor. If he has to rerig the boat just to install the Ford how much money does that take away from the actual build costs. Nothing worse than a boat that is broken. Doesn't matter what brand engine.

I just wouldn't buy a used engine for a boat. It's such a shot in the dark.


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