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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: 78hallettbbc on July 21, 2015, 11:07:01 PM
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Does anyone have a Berkeley 12JG or 12JR for sale? Preferably not one that I have to sell my left nut for. PM me if you have one.
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You not the only one looking for a 12jg everyone I have found 700-1000 bucks my boat will sit on the trailer for the rest of the season if I can't find one for under 400-500 bucks
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You not the only one looking for a 12jg everyone I have found 700-1000 bucks my boat will sit on the trailer for the rest of the season if I can't find one for under 400-500 bucks
Well I have a pair of IMCO gunal tanks that maybe someone will trade. I just need a pump that can handle some HP. Like over 750 hp off the bottle.
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Does anyone have a Berkeley 12JG or 12JR for sale? Preferably not one that I have to sell my left nut for. PM me if you have one.
What is your price range?
You are going to be better off building what you want so you know what's in it.
For a built, ready to run pump. My gut tells me you will be in the $2k range pretty easily.
Just the shaft, bearings, wear ring and a quality impeller are going to cost you that.
I had near twice that in my race pump.
GT
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What is your price range?
You are going to be better off building what you want so you know what's in it.
For a built, ready to run pump. My gut tells me you will be in the $2k range pretty easily.
Just the shaft, bearings, wear ring and a quality impeller are going to cost you that.
I had near twice that in my race pump.
GT
X2. You'll need quality parts and build, especially if you're looking at that kind of HP. The HP will do you no good if you can't flow the water efficiently.
Owning a boat cost $$, left nuts, souls, fisrt borns ... ;D
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Owning a boat cost $$, left nuts, souls, fisrt borns ... ;D
Sanity, marriages, parking spaces. ...
Hee hee
GT
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Got a price today. To just upgrade my JC that already has a hardened shaft and and a bronze or titanium impeller is 6500.
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Got a price today. To just upgrade my JC that already has a hardened shaft and and a bronze or titanium impeller is 6500.
What?
Sounds like someone supporting a serious Crack addiction.
GT
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Well that is from a member on here that builds them I guess.
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Well that is from a member on here that builds them I guess.
. Call Chris at B 1 racing.
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It was to mill the intake for shoe and ride plate . pull his intake and reinstall the intake. set his pump back and and blend the bottom And add a split bowl
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Oh and blue print his pump and balance it
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Well before everything gets blown out of wack as it does on most sites lets list out what 6500 goes towards.
1) removal of old intake
2) floor fill in to accommodate a new set back pump position.
3) purchase of a milled H-2155 inatke
4) installation of new inatke
5) shoe
6) Ride plate
7) cradle
8) transom plates
9) Mill current hardin shaft for inducer
10) Purchase of inducer
11) Soft seal kit
12) Thrust bearing
13) purchase of 12JG split bowl
14) Purchase of Hydraulic fine tune race diverter with hi flow hydraulic pump ( 1.8 sec instead of 4 seconds )
15) pump assembly
16) installation of pump
17) installation of transom plates
Now I don't know about ya'll but thats a lot of parts & work for $6,500 out the door ;)
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I WANNA GO FAST!!
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How about we just end this thread. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
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Well before everything gets blown out of wack as it does on most sites lets list out what 6500 goes towards.
1) removal of old intake
2) floor fill in to accommodate a new set back pump position.
3) purchase of a milled H-2155 inatke
4) installation of new inatke
5) shoe
6) Ride plate
7) cradle
8) transom plates
9) Mill current hardin shaft for inducer
10) Purchase of inducer
11) Soft seal kit
12) Thrust bearing
13) purchase of 12JG split bowl
14) Purchase of Hydraulic fine tune race diverter with hi flow hydraulic pump ( 1.8 sec instead of 4 seconds )
15) pump assembly
16) installation of pump
17) installation of transom plates
Now I don't know about ya'll but thats a lot of parts & work for $6,500 out the door ;)
. What hull is this work taking place in? What impeller will be used? Last but most importantly what shop and what's there resume look like for go fast boats.
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For all that work it's definitely in the ballpark. I just dropped some $g's on my JG for all of that minus the set back (it's already set back) and adding a droop snoot. Going out for powdercoat this week. It's a lot of work to do the pumps up right but when you want to transfer all those HP's to the water efficiency is key. Also learned the pump should be built according to the peak power rpm of your motor...
Steve-O
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Does anyone have a Berkeley 12JG or 12JR for sale? Preferably not one that I have to sell my left nut for. PM me if you have one.
Got a price today. To just upgrade my JC that already has a hardened shaft and and a bronze or titanium impeller is 6500.
Umm, so what are left nuts going for these days? :o
That is a lot of work that you were quoted for. Maybe do the major work (setback) this season and go from there one chunk at a time … ???
We feel your pain. Good luck.
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Umm, so what are left nuts going for these days? :o
That is a lot of work that you were quoted for. Maybe do the major work (setback) this season and go from there one chunk at a time … ???
We feel your pain. Good luck.
I am not bitching about the price. There is no difference from me buying a brand new 12JR for $6600 and have it show up in a box then still have to pay someone to install it. I do think I am getting a lot of work, custom work at that plus labor and the total is actually 5500 because I already have the hardened shaft and impeller. The only problem I have right now is convincing the wife to let me spend another 5500 after spending a couple grand more for the motor. If I can't get her to buy into it I have a mild 496 ok. It mild still kinda wild but my pump as is will handle the 550 to 600hp and then this winter have the pump built.
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While reading this makes me feel blessed I don't have to do as much work but I got intake at JG pump with the droop and an inducer for 850 and then installation with some other work to the hull was like another 900
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While reading this makes me feel blessed I don't have to do as much work but I got intake at JG pump with the droop and an inducer for 850 and then installation with some other work to the hull was like another 900
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Quick story.
Way back when, I was young, broke, working hard and the racing bug bit me for the fourth time.
Me and two friends wanted to get involved in the world of white water marathon racing. Piece of cake right?
We had a good friend that owned Challenger Marine in Oregon. He offered to sell us his previous year race tunnel for a great price. I built a pump and a small block Chevy (cubic inch limit) and we were a team. Well sort of.
The pump I built had pretty much all the best parts of the day. Keep in mind it was 1991.
For a thrown together pile a parts, we actually did fairly well. We weren't the fastest boat by a long shot, but we didn't break. Through attrition, we finished in the top three.
The following year, we sucked up a rock the size of a tennis ball at speed while testing. It blew a hole large enough to get my hand in in the bowl.
I had a spare, but very stock pump in my truck. Burning some midnight oil, calling in some favors and a little luck, we had a boat again. You have to keep in mind that I borrowed $200 from my dad for gas money.
We started the race and the boat actually worked a little better than before. We ended up getting to the fourth leg when we crashed out, our first DNF because of damage I didn't catch from the day before.
The point?
Sometimes you can build the holy grail of pumps, install every whiz bang part there is and a stock pump will work just as well, maybe even better.
Make sure to speak with someone in the know before throwing good money at bad.
I like the above approach of one step at a time. It will show improvements and give an idea of what works and what don't, all while being reversible.
What hull are you dealing with?
Do you know of one that has a set back pump? Does it work?
What does the hull weigh?
What do you plan to do with it?
Do you expect it to be able to cruise at 35mph?
How many seats?
Where does the engine make its horsepower?
What has been done to the hull?
Where are you installing the engine?
There are dozens more questions that help paint the picture. You get the idea.
By the way, that small block spun an aluminum Berkeley BC impeller at nearly 6k. That engine is sitting on my garage floor. I can't bring myself to part with it.
Have fun, keep your expectations in check and research what you want to do, before you do it.
GT
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amen to that.....too...
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If you're really secure in your marriage you can always ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I've finished many a project that way 😳.
Steve-O
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Great story GT, and advice. Building our boats is really a big part of the enjoyment of owning them-when all's said and done it really sets the tone for when you use it.
Steve-O
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If you're really secure in your marriage you can always ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I've finished many a project that way 😳.
Steve-O
Lol.
Been married a long time, going on 24 years. This worked for fifteen of them.
After that it seems to lose it effectiveness......
GT
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If you're really secure in your marriage you can always ask for forgiveness instead of permission. I've finished many a project that way 😳.
Steve-O
Im a big enthusiast of this method and pretty much every project i have had or still have is funded by this method and believe it or not never once has my wife ever given me a hard time and i have never lied about how much i spend on anything. If you ask my wife she will confirm this but i do what want and spend my money on what i want. I wont ask for permission or go through the hassle of trying to convince her or beg for mercy. Now i havent been married as long as GT or as long at most here, going on 6 years now so that means either I have an amazing wife which i do OR i havent screwed up to the point where shes had to put me on such a short leash and put the bank account on lock down.
But the key to my success soley is.....dont spend it if you aint got it, credit cards are a no go on projects, constant spending on a project brings to much attention, spread out the cash dumping and use cash as often as you can on big pirchases. They cant trace cash..... i said i never lied about how much i spend which she can check with online banking or by finding reciepts. I never said anything about volunteering information, once its been in the garage for 24hrs i have always had it or im just holding onto it for someone.
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Im a big enthusiast of this method and pretty much every project i have had or still have is funded by this method and believe it or not never once has my wife ever given me a hard time and i have never lied about how much i spend on anything. If you ask my wife she will confirm this but i do what want and spend my money on what i want. I wont ask for permission or go through the hassle of trying to convince her or beg for mercy. Now i havent been married as long as GT or as long at most here, going on 6 years now so that means either I have an amazing wife which i do OR i havent screwed up to the point where shes had to put me on such a short leash and put the bank account on lock down.
But the key to my success soley is.....dont spend it if you aint got it, credit cards are a no go on projects, constant spending on a project brings to much attention, spread out the cash dumping and use cash as often as you can on big pirchases. They cant trace cash..... i said i never lied about how much i spend which she can check with online banking or by finding reciepts. I never said anything about volunteering information, once its been in the garage for 24hrs i have always had it or im just holding onto it for someone.
. I think a lot of us use the same methods. I'm not sure there is a different way. Lol
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I never said anything about volunteering information, once its been in the garage for 24hrs i have always had it or im just holding onto it for someone.
lol....this was my favorite part....haha :beer:
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lol....this was my favorite part....haha :beer:
. I think because it hits home for most of us.
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Funny thread now. Wasn't this about finding a reasonable price on a pump? 😆 Just the reality of building a boat and staying [happily] married...
We could start a boat builders anonymous group right here.
Steve-O
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Funny thread now. Wasn't this about finding a reasonable price on a pump? Just the reality of building a boat and staying [happily] married...
We could start a boat builders anonymous group right here.
Steve-O
My name's Dave and I own a jet boat.
It's very common for threads to make a left turn.
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Funny thread now. Wasn't this about finding a reasonable price on a pump? 😆 Just the reality of building a boat and staying [happily] married...
We could start a boat builders anonymous group right here.
Steve-O
i dont know about you....but i dont have a 'boat problem'. i can quit whenever i want to.... ::)
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Funny thread now. Wasn't this about finding a reasonable price on a pump? 😆 Just the reality of building a boat and staying [happily] married...
We could start a boat builders anonymous group right here.
Steve-O
Alright ill spell it out for you, being happily married is like street magic.....its all slide of hand and distractions.
Now you want to build a reasonable priced pump. Good luck, we have all heard it, good fast and cheap, pick two cuse you aint gonna get em all unless your gt and can build your own crap......
1.buy a complete spare pump wait out for a good deal on craigslist. Easy to hide.
2. Start building that stash cash.
3. Drop said pump off to have build. Intake milled and set up for shoe and ride plate.
4. Tell wife boats having issues and you gonna take it in to have it looked at.
5. So now you pay for pump build and machine work with cash and pay for installation and set back with card.
6. Dont slip up and get caught, hide cash reciept and enjoy.
Now this may take a while depending your abilities to save but if you play your cards right you should be set up come next season.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT TIP OF ALL OF THIS!!!! dont let her see this thread or your screwed from the begining and just digging your own grave.
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ha, this reminded me of that book...in American pie....on how to pleasure a woman.
Everyone puts in viable tips n tricks. Ha....
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If you make her eyes roll back in her head, you don't need to hide it ;D
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I just follow up any new toy purchase with let's go shopping for your's now. All upgrades and improvements are made equal, mine always cost more lol just a couple examples and we are celebrating 11 years next month
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If you make her eyes roll back in her head, you don't need to hide it ;D
This is the chapter title.....