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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: MBlack on April 19, 2010, 02:28:38 PM

Title: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: MBlack on April 19, 2010, 02:28:38 PM

What do you guys have? I can get a set of car tires for around $180 and the trailer tires are about $350. A few people have said that the car tires sway more and can cause you to jacknife or flip. Im sure this is an extreme case but is there really a difference in that regard? I just got my new rims shipped to me today and Im gonna get the tires tomorrow. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Here's a pic of the new rims BTW

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: MBlack on April 19, 2010, 02:33:06 PM

...and if it matters, I have a tandem axle trailer.

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: Luckie Stiff on April 19, 2010, 02:57:28 PM

MB-

I run light truck tires on my trailers, never had a problem (knocking on wood)

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: Hot Shoe on April 19, 2010, 03:49:54 PM

In our situations i dont think its a problem since jet boats dont way very much but if you were hauling 10,000 lbs, yes theres a big difference. The sidewalls on a trailer tire are stronger to hold more weight than a car tire. But i dont think its a problem here. But i have been wrong before...
 Russ

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: beerjet on April 19, 2010, 03:51:51 PM

Tires dont know if they are being pushed or pulled.
"trailer" tires are constructed diffrently for vertical loads because the suspension on trailers sucks and I dont think your boat weighs anywhere near what a car weighs so why bother paying extra for ugly tires.
I run car tires.
Here are 8 that came from the trailer manufacture.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10034/IMG00091-20100225-1741.jpg)

-beerjet-

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 19, 2010, 05:00:19 PM

Go with the car tires and you will be good to go. STAY AWAY FROM THE CHINESE CRAP :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: flytime on April 19, 2010, 05:05:11 PM

I ran light truck tires on my tandem trailer and never a problem. I think they towed better than trailer tires IMHO.

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: RitcheyRch on April 19, 2010, 06:21:33 PM

Car tires on my boat trailer as well.

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: crewchief22 on April 19, 2010, 07:44:27 PM

I put Maxxis Trailer tires on mine and have had good wear and no failures (yet).

http://www.maxxis.com/Industrial/Trailer.aspx

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: h2oicon on April 19, 2010, 09:08:47 PM

go with car but the lower profile they are the better the trac on the trailer it rides like on a rail and u can haul ass..................o

oh beerjet if u got 8 from the trailer builder where is the other axle cause i count 3 on this side and u may have 5 on the other side :sly: :sly:

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: svssr95 on April 19, 2010, 09:27:36 PM

Quote from: h2oicon on April 19, 2010, 09:08:47 PM

go with car but the lower profile they are the better the trac on the trailer it rides like on a rail and u can haul ass..................o

oh beerjet if u got 8 from the trailer builder where is the other axle cause i count 3 on this side and u may have 5 on the other side :sly: :sly:

you must not run spares, photo clearly shows 2. :screwy: :screwy:

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: beerjet on April 19, 2010, 10:14:46 PM

Quote from: h2oicon on April 19, 2010, 09:08:47 PM

go with car but the lower profile they are the better the trac on the trailer it rides like on a rail and u can haul ass..................o

oh beerjet if u got 8 from the trailer builder where is the other axle cause i count 3 on this side and u may have 5 on the other side :sly: :sly:

 :D Yeah , I have 2 spares on there.

-beerjet-

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: MBlack on April 20, 2010, 04:40:45 PM

First Id like to say thank you to those who responded with your advice....the more I looked at the car tires currently on the trailer, seeing how the side walls were all cracked but the tread was still very good I decided to go with the trailer tires. Today was the first time using my girlfriends new M350 to tow my boat. As I backed the car to hook up the boat I realized how damn low the drawbar is. When I hooked up the trailer the stand part up front (dont know the correct term) was touching the ground! I still had to drive it down the driveway another few feet. I scraped the shit out of the driveway and when I got to level ground I saw that there was only about a 2.5" clearance! I also noticed that when uhaul hooked up the wiring under the chassis they mounted it so that it was too far away for my harness to reach. I decided to drive it VERY SLOWLY over to uhaul, I was nervous as shit but I made it there safely. I got a drawbar that was a little longer and flipped it over. It made a world of difference!

The first picture is the aftermath of dragging the trailer.
Also shown are the new rims and tires. I like them a lot better than the moons.
The last 2 pictures show my sweet piston shift knob (I think its so damn cool) and my new steering wheel.

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: beerjet on April 20, 2010, 04:45:53 PM

Quote from: MBlack on April 20, 2010, 04:40:45 PM

First Id like to say thank you to those who responded with your advice....the more I looked at the car tires currently on the trailer, seeing how the side walls were all cracked but the tread was still very good I decided to go with the trailer tires.

ALL tires are going to do that from sitting 90% of the time .
Looks good though.

-beerjet-

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: Luckie Stiff on April 20, 2010, 04:47:13 PM

Quote from: beerjet on April 20, 2010, 04:45:53 PM

ALL tires are going to do that from sitting 90% of the time .
Looks good though.

-beerjet-

Especially if your boat sits outside. I park my trailer on scraps of plywood, the guy at the tire shop told me this would increase my tire life, true or not, I had the scrap wood and it's done.

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: beerjet on April 20, 2010, 04:52:16 PM

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on April 20, 2010, 04:47:13 PM

Especially if your boat sits outside. I park my trailer on scraps of plywood, the guy at the tire shop told me this would increase my tire life, true or not, I had the scrap wood and it's done.

I was thinkin about getting mine up off the ground all together .
Makes sense what yer saying though.

-beerjet-

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 20, 2010, 05:01:40 PM

Never heard of that one Skip. But Omar is and you are right about the sitting and the being outside part, especially here in Cali.  The ozone,smog, whatever you want to call it, deteriorates the sidewall rubber bigtime :thumbdown:  The best thing for them is to keep them covered :thumbup: Like my 5th wheel trailer I keep at Park Moabi, I cut out 2 pieces of plywood for the 2 tires that are always in the sun. My other trick I use is to put a light coat of brake fluid on just like you would with armorall. If ya think about brake fluid it is used to among other things, keep all the rubber soft and pliable, and not cracking ;)

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: River Roy on April 20, 2010, 05:08:47 PM

Depends a lot what the tires are parked on also, We use a lot of lime stone here, most driveway's and small parking lots are nothing but chipped limestone and that just eats away at tires and the metal when
every time it rains it splashes lime water and it rains here a lot, But like was said already,Plywood helps and trailer tires have beefier sides and that's not needed when hauling light loads like little light jet boats especially double axle trailer hauling light boats.    Roy

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 20, 2010, 05:16:54 PM

Omar I did that once with jackstands, works good but a pain in the ass, if I needed to move it. What I do now is every month or 2 I lift em all and rotate them 45 degrees and put her back down. But the biggest thing  is to keep the ones in the sun covered

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: beerjet on April 20, 2010, 05:34:19 PM

Quote from: 76NORDIC on April 20, 2010, 05:16:54 PM

Omar I did that once with jackstands, works good but a pain in the ass, if I needed to move it. What I do now is every month or 2 I lift em all and rotate them 45 degrees and put her back down. But the biggest thing  is to keep the ones in the sun covered

Good Idea Mark.

-beerjet-

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: IRRebel on April 20, 2010, 05:45:13 PM

I agree with your move on trailer tires. All but one of my boats has brand new or a year old trailer tires on it, including the new project.

Car tires do NOT have the sidewall or bias to handle trailering, IMO.  Doubt this? Tag a curb HARD on a car tire and see what happens.  I'm picky, but I trailer a LONG ways a lot, don't want more problems just bein cheap.

Yes, the desert is not nice to them, armor-all regularly, cover them, check pressures, and drag the thing around a block or two regularly even if not going to the water should keep them in great condition for years. That is if stored outside. I think it's a good idea even if stored inside, myself. But that's just me.

Ray

Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: jet boat performance on April 20, 2010, 08:52:56 PM

After constantly dragging the prop guard (obviously not a jet problem I admit  ;)) a couple years back I switched out the low profiles for STG trailer tires and was stunned at the improvement  in towing on the big boat , clearly the low pros had dropped the trailer but the "feel" behind the truck and the motor home was completely different with the trailer deals  Tom
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Title: Re: Car Tires vs Trailer Tires
Post by: River Roy on April 20, 2010, 09:10:31 PM

I always till now just went by the weight and size of the trailer determines if I put car or trailer tires on, But thinking about you guy's out west and them crazy winds you have got me thinking you would want trailer tires on a light trailer also to keep stable with a steady cross wind while rolling fast...  HHhhhmmm Guess I'm not to old to change my mind.  8)