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Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« on: November 13, 2015, 06:40:34 PM »
Ok so I removed both to put new gaskets on (had a small leak). I know this is probably a dumb question as I am learning as I go but should I clean out the insides and if so how should I do it?  Motor is a bbc 454. Thanks for your help


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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2015, 08:49:34 PM »
Well....anything that eats that soot and oil deposits, carb cleaner,oven cleaner(careful it eats aluminum if you leave it)on inside only,small wire brush etc.  Ware mask,read and follow label directions. While you got um off,match gaskets to logs,then same treatment to the heads,you'll be amazed what you find! After all that,polished those baby's. Then have a cold one,you deserve it,have fun with it.
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2015, 09:13:06 PM »
A little Parsons will clean some of the corrosion up.
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2015, 10:55:27 PM »
While I am working on the boat this winter what add on can i do that can add some more power? I saw these headers (looks like China) but i couldn't find any first hand reviews. being so cheap i know i cant expect much but could they give some more power? link below

http://xs-power.com/other-specialty-marine-6.htm
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2015, 06:00:28 AM »
Back drag a razor blade. I'd cut off the step on the snail an go larger on the hose. If your ss or aluminum tips aren't larger then add a small piece of hose on them an run the larger over it all.

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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2015, 10:27:18 AM »
While I am working on the boat this winter what add on can i do that can add some more power? I saw these headers (looks like China) but i couldn't find any first hand reviews. being so cheap i know i cant expect much but could they give some more power? link below

http://xs-power.com/other-specialty-marine-6.htm

The most proven method of gaining performance on a log style exhaust is a crossover.

It also makes them sleeper quiet.

GT
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2015, 10:36:33 AM »
The most proven method of gaining performance on s log style exhaust is a crossover.

It also makes them sleeper quiet.

GT

how would you do a crossover on this type of exhaust?
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2015, 10:42:03 AM »
how would you do a crossover on this type of exhaust?

If you have more than 8" of exhaust hose between the rusts ant the tips,  you use 3" aluminum  tubing. You need to make two tees the size of the hose and an inverted elbow to connect the two over the pump.

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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2015, 10:42:31 AM »
how would you do a crossover on this type of exhaust?

If you have more than 8" of exhaust hose between the rusts ant the tips,  you use 3" aluminum  tubing. You need to make two tees the size of the hose and an inverted elbow to connect the two over the pump.

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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2015, 11:05:09 AM »
So something  like running a X pipe on a car
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2015, 11:06:45 AM »
So something  like running a X pipe on a car

No,  exactly like an X pipe. Hee hee.

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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2015, 12:08:59 PM »
Got any pics of this set up? I think i have enough room to pull it off, but since i havent done it before (or seen it) it would help me plan it out in my head.


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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2015, 12:59:53 PM »
Hahaha like this!? No not really I found it but just had to post this craziness


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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2015, 01:08:35 PM »
Ok another issue is I keep snapping the bolts on the alternator (3 so far). I am using grade 8 bolts. Do I have it mounted incorrect? Should I have a longer belt. The adjusting arm never seems to line up correctly and the alternator seem to be slightly slanted when bolted on. Pics below. 


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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2015, 01:15:18 PM »
Use a grade 5 bolt and flat washer to make up that offset. The bushing looks too thick to me.

Use a lock washer and a hardened flat washer where the bolt goes through the bracket.

A grade 8 bolt is too hard.
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2015, 01:23:55 PM »
At second glance,  flip that bracket over.

The alternator  bolt should go through the front. Not the back.
Jmo

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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2015, 01:30:19 PM »
Like this? The belt seems to small as I can't get the bolt thru the adjusting arm.


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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2015, 01:33:01 PM »
Ok another issue is I keep snapping the bolts on the alternator (3 so far). I am using grade 8 bolts. Do I have it mounted incorrect? Should I have a longer belt. The adjusting arm never seems to line up correctly and the alternator seem to be slightly slanted when bolted on. Pics below. 


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Also,  I use turnbuckles. Not a slide bracket.

Might work great in this case.

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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2015, 01:37:55 PM »
Like this? The belt seems to small as I can't get the bolt thru the adjusting arm.


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Really?

The bracket should be at the front of the alternator. You may need to use a grinder on the bracket so it fits the block flatter. And yes, the belt is a couple inches short imo.


The turn buckle.

http://www.amazon.com/Tensioner-Turnbuckle-Adjustable-Alternator-Steering/dp/B00MI7Q1TC
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2015, 01:51:38 PM »
From the pic on cp website it looks like it should go behind. When it is in front it is very close to touching. Thanks for all the help


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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2015, 01:56:45 PM »
You are going to likely need to notch the floor and buy a longer belt,  nearly touching is better than touching. Lol

Good luck

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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2015, 02:46:39 PM »

No,  exactly like an X pipe. Hee hee.

GT

The mod makes sense on paper. Is is popular? If so, people have done a good job keeping it a secret. I cant find pics anywhere. Haha


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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2015, 02:59:12 PM »
We did about ten back in the day.

Most popular on aluminum fishing river jets.
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2015, 03:04:27 PM »
Toyota uses it in their tow boats. I think Master Craft did it for a short time.
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Re: Exhaust manifold and logs questions
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2015, 09:40:29 AM »
The theory of the cross over pipe is to equalize back pressure which helps equalize compression ratio's so the motor runs smoother. It also helps the exhaust pulse to even out which is why it makes the motor quieter at idle and off idle.
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