Call me crazy...

« **Reply #25 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:06:58 PM »

You going with quicksilver forward controls or foot pedal and shifter for forward/reverse? You will not like it without power steering... You getting just a bravo unit or the whole kit and kabootle from someone's part-out with the hydraulics and pump for trim?

I sometimes miss the lever throttle I had in my old tuna boat, like cruise control when you have to get up and open the cooler.

And no, you will not be ready this season.

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« **Reply #26 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:12:41 PM »

Quote from: BIG JOHNSON on March 23, 2013, 10:06:58 PM

You going with quicksilver forward controls or foot pedal and shifter for forward/reverse? You will not like it without power steering... You getting just a bravo unit or the whole kit and kabootle from someone's part-out with the hydraulics and pump for trim?

I sometimes miss the lever throttle I had in my old tuna boat, like cruise control when you have to get up and open the cooler.

And no, you will not be ready this season.

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getting the whole kit from a part out boat. ive heard i can keep my current steering but ive been seeing like a hydraulic assist steering setup. how hard is it to steer while under way without power?

as far as controls i was thinking about something like this:

im keeping my eyes open on the offshore boat forums for one.

« **Reply #27 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:33:21 PM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on March 23, 2013, 10:12:41 PM

getting the whole kit from a part out boat. ive heard i can keep my current steering but ive been seeing like a hydraulic assist steering setup. how hard is it to steer while under way without power?

WTF??? I would assume you know that this boat doesn't run a jet drive and an I/O without power steering just don't make sense. Looks like a good amount of work and $$$ before she floats so get a move on, summer is knocking at your door.

« **Reply #28 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:35:08 PM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on March 23, 2013, 10:12:41 PM

how hard is it to steer while under way without power?

I had a 3.0L inline 4 Chevy and Mercruiser's entry level drive. Depending on trim and side to side balance in the boat, it would rip the wheel from your hand one way or another (enough to make passengers scream) if you didn't pay attention or have a good grip.

Back then, the power steering was probably an option for my 4 banger, likely mandatory on all 4.3 V6 motors.

I wouldn't want to hang onto a bravo with a healthy big block unless I had a really big pirate ship style steering wheel.

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« **Reply #29 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:39:33 PM »

Quote from: BIG JOHNSON on March 23, 2013, 10:35:08 PM

I had a 3.0L inline 4 Chevy and Mercruiser's entry level drive. Depending on trim and side to side balance in the boat, it would rip the wheel from your hand one way or another (enough to make passengers scream) if you didn't pay attention or have a good grip.

Back then, the power steering was probably an option for my 4 banger, likely mandatory on all 4.3 V6 motors.

I wouldn't want to hang onto a bravo with a healthy big block unless I had a really big pirate ship style steering wheel.

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got it. order a giant pirate ship wheel.

hopefully rexmar or cpperformance stocks one.

« **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:40:47 PM »

Quote from: HaulsBalls on March 23, 2013, 10:33:21 PM

WTF??? I would assume you know that this boat doesn't run a jet drive and an I/O without power steering just don't make sense. Looks like a good amount of work and $$$ before she floats so get a move on, summer is knocking at your door.

lol of course i know it doesnt run a jet drive. thats the whole point i got it. im just being sarcastic.

« **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:46:00 PM »

Quote from: SoCalPSD on March 23, 2013, 07:00:12 AM

So your intentionally gonna mis summer? Your goin the wrong direction, boats suppose to go together this time of year not apart

both of my boats are right side up...

« **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:50:57 PM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on March 23, 2013, 10:39:33 PM

got it. order a giant pirate ship wheel.

More like open the treasure chest and start buying things.. Good investment though.

I remember the day at lake Perris almost 10 years ago when I let a buddy's girlfriend drive it and I sat in the bow... It was a very sobering moment because my back ended up skipping on the water and almost sucked me out of the boat, and I became aware that it IS possible to spin a boat with an outdrive. Though I told her to use the kung fu grip, she failed. I never did let anyone else drive the boat after that.

Outdrives need power steering, It's like putting an airplane motor and prop on the end of a cat's tail, all of your engines power is converted to thrust implied 2' behind your (rotten) transom and inches below your keel's path.

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« **Reply #33 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:57:29 PM »

Quote from: BIG JOHNSON on March 23, 2013, 10:50:57 PM

More like open the treasure chest and start buying things.. Good investment though.

I remember the day at lake Perris almost 10 years ago when I let a buddy's girlfriend drive it and I sat in the bow... It was a very sobering moment because my back ended up skipping on the water and almost sucked me out of the boat, and I became aware that it IS possible to spin a boat with an outdrive. Though I told her to use the kung fu grip, she failed. I never did let anyone else drive the boat after that.

Outdrives need power steering, It's like putting an airplane motor and prop on the end of a cat's tail, all of your engines power is converted to thrust implied 2' behind your (rotten) transom and inches below your keel's path.

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first boat that'll have an engine hatch... where does your blower hose go to? down in the bottom of the bilge? do the gas fumes go to the bottom or the top? im guessing that most bilge blowers are gas fume friendly?

« **Reply #34 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:30:02 PM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on March 23, 2013, 10:57:29 PM

first boat that'll have an engine hatch... where does your blower hose go to? down in the bottom of the bilge? do the gas fumes go to the bottom or the top? im guessing that most bilge blowers are gas fume friendly?

Blower intake hose rests on the bottom of the hull, perpendicular. Gas fumes will always sink to the bottom. Always run the blower while getting ready to launch. Most boats with a closed engine compartment have ventilation on the cap, one side scooping in, the other side angled to release. Mine doesn't so I run the sheet out of the blower when in doubt. I run the blower when fueling on the water or extended no wake idling.

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« **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2013, 10:06:06 AM »

If your looking for parts, hit me up. I have drives (late generation) Bravo ones, engine brackets, power steering pumps, hoses, water pumps, exhaust manifolds, ignition sets, I can get transom assemblies.

Be careful with lumpy camshafts with an i/o, they're difficult to shift.

I probably have enough crap to build that boat twice.

Just got rid of a Blackhawk set up.

Also just so you know, transom thickness is critical on these.

Nice find.

GT

« **Reply #36 on:** March 24, 2013, 10:41:20 AM »

Quote from: GT Jets on March 24, 2013, 10:06:06 AM

If your looking for parts, hit me up. I have drives (late generation) Bravo ones, engine brackets, power steering pumps, hoses, water pumps, exhaust manifolds, ignition sets, I can get transom assemblies.

Be careful with lumpy camshafts with an i/o, they're difficult to shift.

I probably have enough crap to build that boat twice.

Just got rid of a Blackhawk set up.

Also just so you know, transom thickness is critical on these.

Nice find.

GT

how thick should the transom be? I'm seeing the original at 2" where the wood is still good. its built up towards the center, im thinking of just doing it 2" all the way across.

it would be great if you could put me together something, bravo or alpha complete with trim pump, etc. im waiting on the reply from the setup i was looking at to discuss shipping right now, havent paid yet. would rather help out a board member.

« **Reply #37 on:** March 24, 2013, 12:08:32 PM »

kinda sad seein the Tahiti up on blocks...but life goes on .

cool project, envy you energy.

hope this ain't a dumb question..is the steering orientation (right/starboard) have anything to do with stern
drive verses jet drive (left/port) , just wunderin

oh ya....your crazy

« **Reply #38 on:** March 24, 2013, 12:20:06 PM »

Quote from: MID-LAKE-CRISIS on March 24, 2013, 12:08:32 PM

kinda sad seein the Tahiti up on blocks...but life goes on .
cool project, envy you energy.
hope this ain't a dumb question..is the steering orientation (right/starboard) have anything to do with stern
drive verses jet drive (left/port) , just wunderin

oh ya....your crazy

i think it has to do with the way the steering bracket is on the transom assembly. i dunno. the mother in laws mastercraft is right hand drive too. weird.

« **Reply #39 on:** March 24, 2013, 12:45:52 PM »

The transom cannot be less than 2"or greater than 2 1/4" for the drive shaft yoke to fit on the torque properly.

I will try to put together a list for you this evening. Diggin' holes right now....

« **Reply #40 on:** March 24, 2013, 09:36:21 PM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on March 23, 2013, 10:46:00 PM

both of my boats are right side up...

Ouch, cut me deep man real deep............and FYI it ain't up side down........it's down side up

« **Reply #41 on:** March 24, 2013, 09:40:19 PM »

Quote from: SoCalPSD on March 24, 2013, 09:36:21 PM

Ouch, cut me deep man real deep............and FYI it ain't up side down........it's down side up

i like that your avatar is upside down, thats the only reason i said it.

« **Reply #42 on:** March 24, 2013, 10:47:32 PM »

Lol yah that was an accident but then I was like hmmm it fits the situation

« **Reply #43 on:** March 25, 2013, 07:59:50 AM »

Quote from: MID-LAKE-CRISIS on March 24, 2013, 12:08:32 PM

kinda sad seein the Tahiti up on blocks...but life goes on .
cool project, envy you energy.
hope this ain't a dumb question..is the steering orientation (right/starboard) have anything to do with stern
drive verses jet drive (left/port) , just wunderin

oh ya....your crazy

You can have the steering on either side on a stern drive.

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« **Reply #44 on:** March 26, 2013, 01:39:03 PM »

Glad you got it. Maybe once its finished we can grab the other Bahners on here and have a little meet :-)

« **Reply #45 on:** March 26, 2013, 01:57:01 PM »

Quote from: steves86ta on March 26, 2013, 01:39:03 PM

Glad you got it. Maybe once its finished we can grab the other Bahners on here and have a little meet :-)

id be down for the first annual Bahner regatta. haha.

« **Reply #46 on:** March 27, 2013, 12:02:21 AM »

ka0tyk ,
I've been holding back for awhile but since you left it out there, I'm calling you crazy. Not really.

BIG JOHNSON

ka0tyk

HaulsBalls

BIG JOHNSON

ka0tyk

ka0tyk

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BIG JOHNSON

ka0tyk

BIG JOHNSON

GT Jets

ka0tyk

MID-LAKE-CRISIS

ka0tyk

GT Jets

SoCalPSD

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SoCalPSD

BIG JOHNSON

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