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Title: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 26, 2008, 05:03:14 PM

I'm looking for a new 1ton diesel truck and leaning towards the dodge but not opposed to others anyone have any input on this pros and cons maybe ? I do a lot of highway miles to the dodge mpg is a big selling point

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: schick on December 26, 2008, 05:41:36 PM

 Hello, The trade off for gas mileage is the noise of Cummins, and the ride of truck. The 1 ton of the Chevy and the Ford is much better ride, (specially in the 1 ton). My father in-law delivered new trailers to dealers for two years. He said the Dodge chassis would fall apart around the engine and tranny. This is what the other drives of the Dodges would say. For me the ride comfort is the most important. I have a ¾ ton. (not disclosing the brand, giving a unbiased opinion) When it was my work, I drove 200-300 miles a day. Being able to talk on the phone was critical, and a smooth ride was number two on my list. Just my opinion. Good luck with your search, now is a great time to buy.

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 2savage4you on December 26, 2008, 06:11:52 PM

Buy a truck that your Radiator will fit in ;D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Mr Plow on December 26, 2008, 06:22:08 PM

Quote from: 82daytona on December 26, 2008, 05:03:14 PM

I'm looking for a new 1ton diesel truck and leaning towards the dodge but not opposed to others anyone have any input on this pros and cons maybe ? I do a lot of highway miles to the dodge mpg is a big selling point

If your looking at long term ownership, anything other than the Dodge is better.  Chevy's and Fords will outlive a Dodge.  Here in ND, they use a lot of Dodge's in the oilfield because they know that they will make it for a year or two and then they can trade it off before it really starts costing them some serious coin.

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: GT Jets on December 26, 2008, 06:24:34 PM

I have a 2005 Ford F250 Powerstroke 6.0L, I love it, My freind has a new F350 and he is not able to get more than 14 MPG out of it, while I can consistantly get 22+ from my '05 providing I don't drive faster than 70 MPH, the Dodge is pretty noisey and I agree on the body crumbling around the drivetrain, Dodge never really had a good body quality wise, I would have to say I would probably go Chevy at this point as far as a diesel goes, I just hate the fact that it's not an American made engine (Isuzu), but it is a quality piece.

Ford needs to figure out how to improve the mileage on the new diesel, IMO it's hurting them big time, the ride is killer and you can't hear the engine going down the freeway, also the fit and finish IMO is superior and their warranty is the bomb...

Dodge has the best engine, but very loud (Cummins) which is owned by Ford BTW, but the rest of the truck is very lacking in quality and durability, besides that, it rides like a truck, pretty harsh. The interior to me just feels cheesy. Their warranty seems weak from the horror stories I have heard.

The Cheverolet has some nice features (Allison) and also has a high quality fit and finish, rides good and gets descent mileage, not sure how there warranty stacks up.

These big ass trucks were not really made to get killer mileage, but I think given the economy and vehicle prices these days it's very important, our lovely new SMOG laws are screwing it up also.

Don't know if this helps, but I would try to find one a year or two old with low miles, the money you would keep in your pocket would be huge and it would not have all the new carbon filter BS on it..

GT

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: FORKEDUP on December 26, 2008, 08:10:16 PM

last truck was an 04 ford f250 4dr short box 4wd, traded it in with 75k, never had a single problem with it, hell it was still on the original set of tires (with some left still), i tow a 35' fifth wheel toy hauler and the boats (extent of my towing ;D), rode good (for a 3/4 ton) towed great, wife loved it, i loved it, great all around truck
new truck is a 06 dodge one ton mega cab 4x4 with a cummins of course, the motor is noisier, with the a/c on and radio on who cares (that is how most people drive right?) you cant tell, i have alot more interior room now, i am 6'6 and 260lbs i can sit in the backseat with more than enough room, and recline the back seat, all this with the front seat set for someone my size to drive, easily more room than my ford, the interior is not as "pretty" as the ford, i did not buy it for a show truck, my wife drives it everyday and has never complained, it currently has 81k on it, so we do drive the hell out of our trucks (figure the average out), the dodge gets good milage, high teens with the wife driving, pulls the trailer like not even there, and i have yet to have any sort of problems with it (except the wife finding trees with the tailgate ;D and me finding the corner of the cab with the 5th wheel :banghead:)  both trucks where/are great trucks, both rode great, i did move up to a one ton and it rides just as good as my 3/4 ton ford, no problems with the dodge body, suspension, trans, motor, nothing (knock on wood), as far as the truck goes, i would not hesitate to buy another one, the shit the company is going through however would make me buy a ford.  unfortunately toyota does not make a one ton yet ;D



and  ITS A DIESEL, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE LOUD, HOW THE HELL ELSE WILL YOU PISS OFF THE DAMN YUPPIES

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: h2oicon on December 26, 2008, 08:38:09 PM

if u decide ford let me know i get smokn deals on ford and trade in values  just PM me i will set it up only in orange county dealership got wife mustang gt out door and lowered for 25k w/wheels and all bells and whistles out the door too

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 76NORDIC on December 26, 2008, 08:45:37 PM

what dealership H2 ??? ???

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: MADSKILLZ on December 26, 2008, 09:14:11 PM

I have a 2003 F350 4x4 and love it! It tows bitchin and has lots of power. I get around 14mpg but it runs on 38" mud tires ;D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: h2oicon on December 26, 2008, 09:34:31 PM

ford of orange and the gt was a rag top too

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 76NORDIC on December 26, 2008, 09:39:17 PM

Quote from: h2oicon on December 26, 2008, 09:34:31 PM

ford of orange and the gt was a rag top too

    Thats not Villa ford is it ???

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 76NORDIC on December 26, 2008, 09:55:12 PM

back to the subject   I just bought an 08 f250 super duty and love it   Towing my boat is like towing nothing, and towing my old ass 5th wheel trailer is the same, helluva lot of power    Mark

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: crewchief22 on December 27, 2008, 08:50:01 AM

Because the shop I work for is one of only a couple in the area that does diesel repairs, I feel I get to see a good cross section of what is coming into shops after the warranty expires.  We get more Ford PowerStrokes than either of the others.  The problems Ford has with the HEUI fuel injection system and weak transmissions has been very good for my shop.  We have had two Dodges come through in the last week for injection pumps but both were high mileage (one was 324,000mi).  As for the Chevy, we get very few that are more than basic services. 

As for the Duramax being built by Isuzu, I think that is a good thing.  Isuzu dominates the medium truck industry because of good product, decent pricing and the availability of parts quickly.

The future of manufacturers warranty could be a problem, and you might want to do some research into some of the extended service contracts out there.  One of the companies I deal with for RV warranties is now advertising to  owners of coaches that the manufacturers went out of business (National RV, Western RV, Alfa...)

In other words.... Good Luck  ;D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Mark on December 27, 2008, 09:52:56 AM

Quote

I have a 2005 Ford F250 Powerstroke 6.0L, I love it, My freind has a new F350 and he is not able to get more than 14 MPG out of it, while I can consistantly get 22+ from my '05 providing I don't drive faster than 70 MPH,

I'd kill for 14MPG out of my 2008 F350 TD CC Dually.  I traded in my 2003 (same configuration) and was told by the Ford dealer to expect better mileage from the new motor.  After 14k miles I am averaging 7.9MPG (70% city/30% fwy) which is just over half what I was getting from the 2003.  Great truck other than that.  ::)

Cheers, Mark

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: beerjet on December 27, 2008, 10:01:17 AM

I dont think you can get the 3500 chevy in a single wheel . Dually only , if that matters at all .

-beerjet-

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Nordie on December 27, 2008, 02:24:17 PM

i have an 02 duramax crew cab 2500hd 4wd i get 23 on highway with programmer cold air and exhaust truck has had a couple blips but nothing major i wouldnt recommend either the ford or dodge yes dodge has best motor, but the new ho cummings are getting a bad wrap the ford was done with the deisel market after they got rid of the 7.3 and their trannys suck in ford and dodge and just to get something straight the duramax is built here just the injection was copied from isuzu but bosh assembles it...if you wanna go all out get the f550 because then you can get it with a cat or cummings and i beleive allison probably be a great investment

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: GT Jets on December 27, 2008, 02:38:54 PM

Hey 82 Daytona! Just curious, why a 1 ton?, the only thing different from a 3/4 to a 1 is payload capacity, the 3/4 can actually tow more...again just curious.

GT

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 27, 2008, 03:00:33 PM

I do tile & stone so a lot of my hauling will be with a load in the back and ive been wanting one of those over head camper deals but now i gound a sweet deal on a 07 chevy 2500 2wd with 10 miles for 23k or so just waiting for a call back any info of that truck

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: GT Jets on December 27, 2008, 03:05:56 PM

Makes sense, I had a Lance Cabover, I will say a dually would have been nice, and where we went, 4X4 a must...

Good luck on that '07

GT

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 04:21:28 PM

so here is my new work truck nice and low for easy access to the tools



http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail/photos/multiPhotoPopup.jsp?paId=274552360&tracktype=usedcc&isuper=true&aff=national#4



































j/k ;D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: JWBOYER21 on December 30, 2008, 04:28:24 PM

Quote from: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 04:21:28 PM

so here is my new work truck nice and low for easy access to the tools



http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail/photos/multiPhotoPopup.jsp?paId=274552360&tracktype=usedcc&isuper=true&aff=national#4


j/k ;D

of course, look at the flag on the antenna! had to be  :D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 04:44:30 PM

what mexican american ? ;D  fuk the flag look at the trailer hitch i would love to put my 14000 lbs trailer on that thing  O0

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: beerjet on December 30, 2008, 05:29:00 PM

Quote from: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 04:44:30 PM

what mexican american ? ;D  fuk the flag look at the trailer hitch i would love to put my 14000 lbs trailer on that thing  O0

And then watch it buckle  :D

-beerjet-

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 05:35:04 PM

i wonder how many times a day you would get pulled over in this thing  ::)

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 2savage4you on December 30, 2008, 05:53:16 PM

Quote from: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 05:35:04 PM

i wonder how many times a day you would get pulled over in this thing  ::)

Depends, if your a white boy then they would expect to see you in it..

If your Messican they expect it to be stolen :D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Nordie on December 30, 2008, 05:58:20 PM

messicans only steal work tools so they can goto work themselves...just ask gaytona

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 05:59:53 PM

i can stop looking at it  :banghead: look at the angle on the drive shaft its probally 2wd and looks to be a v10

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 06:01:20 PM

if Im gaytona youre 1980mordick   ;D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Nordie on December 30, 2008, 06:06:36 PM

hahaha ill be first to admit that was good you got me...

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 30, 2008, 06:10:46 PM

+1 for me  :D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Nordie on December 30, 2008, 07:07:55 PM

you coulda done better young one 1980 mor dics may have been a little better...now i feel like 2sav bagging on myself...my self esteem sucks

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 76NORDIC on December 30, 2008, 07:53:47 PM

at least its a FORD !!!! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Nordie on December 30, 2008, 08:51:15 PM

pshhhh not in my nordic...mine is alergic to those blue oval chingaderas

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 76NORDIC on December 30, 2008, 08:57:03 PM

Quote from: 1980Nordic on December 30, 2008, 08:51:15 PM

pshhhh not in my nordic...mine is alergic to those blue oval chingaderas

                :screwy:   ya but you got a coffee grinder behind your nordic so how can ya talk squat about a blue oval chingaderas ???    ;D ;D

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: JWBOYER21 on December 30, 2008, 11:10:28 PM

that truck is garbage for $26k. you want something with a strong build and a good price, look at my buddy's shop and see the stuff he's done.
www.theshop310.com

go find a nice stock truck from an old man and take it too him

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 31, 2008, 04:38:03 PM

what about a 07 chevy with 6.6 with a allison 6speed has about 15k miles anyone know anything about it

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Nordie on December 31, 2008, 05:06:08 PM

that would be really good imo....dont buy any 08 deisels...i may be the only one here that strongly reccomends the duramax

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on December 31, 2008, 05:13:18 PM

i thought 08 and 07 were the same ?

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Nordie on January 01, 2009, 02:54:56 AM

negative...08 duramax has the emission chingadera its terrible...the self heating cat to "clean it out"...my dad has the 08 and hates it...and when the cat clogs it is pricey 07 i beleive your safer...my 02 didnt even have a factory cat...

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: crewchief22 on January 01, 2009, 07:29:26 AM

You are better off with the 07 (IMO) until they have a couple years of the new equipment in production.  The 07 does have a catalytic converter but doesn't have the afterburner POS.

And right now the Allison transmission is the best thing available!

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: GT Jets on January 01, 2009, 09:42:38 AM

Quote from: 1980Nordic on January 01, 2009, 02:54:56 AM

negative...08 duramax has the emission chingadera its terrible...the self heating cat to "clean it out"...my dad has the 08 and hates it...and when the cat clogs it is pricey 07 i beleive your safer...my 02 didnt even have a factory cat...

Quote from: crewchief22 on January 01, 2009, 07:29:26 AM

You are better off with the 07 (IMO) until they have a couple years of the new equipment in production.  The 07 does have a catalytic converter but doesn't have the afterburner POS.

And right now the Allison transmission is the best thing available!

X2 man, that carbon filter delio is el junko, I'm telling you, a couple years old, you will not be dissapointed.  ;)

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: Nordie on January 01, 2009, 12:27:37 PM

yeah my dad said he shouldnt have gotten rid of his 05 duramax...his 08 has been in the shop twice already...my 02 had to get a new water pump...for some reason everyone i know there 02 has had to have the water pump replaced...

Title: Re: truck shopping
Post by: 82daytona on January 01, 2009, 09:23:37 PM

i got a 07 with 17 miles 2wd ltz crew cab diesel long bed so far so good