454 vs 460 actually 402

« **on:** September 23, 2014, 04:20:09 AM »

alright ill be the dick that does this!! how do the fords rank with the chevys??? i know that i feel the fords are turds,, but there are some fords that run but at alot more cost then runnin a bbc,, i have a small bbc in my flatty! and it will fuck up my buddys 460 boats, yet i think my boats a turd, so i just bought a set of heads for it, i come from a drag street race background, this is my first boat,alot of learning on my part with the boat stuff, butt big block fords are allways turds on the street,, am i missing something on the water????remember,,i think my boats a turd as well...lets hear it

« **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2014, 06:40:22 AM »

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« **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2014, 07:28:40 AM »

Quote from: aquaholic72 on September 23, 2014, 04:20:09 AM

alright ill be the dick that does this!! how do the fords rank with the chevys??? i know that i feel the fords are turds,, but there are some fords that run but at alot more cost then runnin a bbc,, i have a small bbc in my flatty! and it will **** up my buddys 460 boats, yet i think my boats a turd, so i just bought a set of heads for it, i come from a drag street race background, this is my first boat,alot of learning on my part with the boat stuff, butt big block fords are allways turds on the street,, am i missing something on the water????remember,,i think my boats a turd as well...lets hear it

Aquaholic72,

I'm literally in the same boat with you, I'm big in the street racing scene. I love Chevrolet, because they are cheap to fix and cost less to make them faster. To me fords aren't all there. Moving forward this is my first boat too, it has a 454 BBC in it. Over the winter I will be doing some mods to the powerplant.

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« **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2014, 08:13:51 AM »

As big of a Chevy guy as I am, I'm gonna say it comes down to the builder.

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« **Reply #4 on:** September 23, 2014, 08:21:38 AM »

Not only the builder but also how much do you want to spend bang for the buck and the chevy wins hands down

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« **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2014, 08:33:59 AM »

Quote from: Maker on September 23, 2014, 08:21:38 AM

Not only the builder but also how much do you want to spend bang for the buck and the chevy wins hands down

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I agree I drag raced mopars for thirty years but boats aren't drag cars I think bang for the buck it's hard to beat a BBC

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« **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2014, 12:31:44 PM »

Reliable...Bbf. If your looking for cheap Bbc. Builder X2 but its also parts involved stock/aftermarket. Each have goods an bads an there isnt a magical best motor either way.

« **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2014, 01:54:52 PM »

Cheap, fast, reliable. .pick 2 you can't have all 3...don't care what brand you build

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« **Reply #8 on:** September 23, 2014, 02:03:14 PM »

X2 on that

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« **Reply #9 on:** September 23, 2014, 02:29:49 PM »

My stock Harding 460 is 10000 times better than the olds I had.

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« **Reply #10 on:** September 23, 2014, 02:57:06 PM »

throw enough money at something and even a honda can be fast...

id love to see boats using the coyote 5.0 motors. damn things are 400hp and 600hp+ with easy mods. ford even makes a swap kit with a ECU, etc for $1500 to get one running out of the box.

« **Reply #11 on:** September 23, 2014, 04:47:12 PM »

I like the one running at the end of the weekend. It all depends who built it and what budget was used to build it.

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« **Reply #12 on:** September 23, 2014, 06:15:00 PM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on September 23, 2014, 02:57:06 PM

throw enough money at something and even a honda can be fast...

id love to see boats using the coyote 5.0 motors. damn things are 400hp and 600hp+ with easy mods. ford even makes a swap kit with a ECU, etc for $1500 to get one running out of the box.

That 300 cube coyote motor is heavier than a 454 or 460, and ONLY 400 hp??? 600 hp at what, 7500+ rpm???...useless in a jet...Might as well have that Honda...
My 383 SBC is 365 lbs and 475+ hp, with a Holley.

For VALUE, a 460 would be better, Just sayin'

Dan'l

« **Reply #13 on:** September 23, 2014, 08:49:17 PM »

Quote from: More2LifeThanMPG on September 23, 2014, 06:40:22 AM

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What am I missing? What does the chick have to do with ford vs chevy?

« **Reply #14 on:** September 23, 2014, 08:51:47 PM »

Quote from: 75 fantasy on September 23, 2014, 08:49:17 PM

What am I missing? What does the chick have to do with ford vs chevy?

Stirring the pot...

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« **Reply #15 on:** September 23, 2014, 09:20:29 PM »

Quote from: More2LifeThanMPG on September 23, 2014, 08:51:47 PM

Stirring the pot...

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Omg... there was a pot!

« **Reply #16 on:** September 24, 2014, 01:28:53 AM »

Quote from: 75 fantasy on September 23, 2014, 09:20:29 PM

Omg... there was a pot!

LOL you passed the gay test

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« **Reply #17 on:** September 24, 2014, 02:28:31 AM »

Quote from: jimpen on September 23, 2014, 04:47:12 PM

I like the one running at the end of the weekend. It all depends who built it and what budget was used to build it.

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as you know... I'll be runnin.. And still have enough fuelin my tanks to help out whoever runs out... HAA

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« **Reply #18 on:** September 24, 2014, 05:38:16 AM »

That's very true I guess BBC

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« **Reply #19 on:** September 24, 2014, 08:47:24 AM »

Quote from: ka0tyk on September 23, 2014, 02:57:06 PM

throw enough money at something and even a honda can be fast...

id love to see boats using the coyote 5.0 motors. damn things are 400hp and 600hp+ with easy mods. ford even makes a swap kit with a ECU, etc for $1500 to get one running out of the box.

Funny you bring this up, GS Marine has a Daytona/TP with one of these being rigged right now. Should be interesting to see what numbers it puts up, I believe it's going to be full race rig.

I'm a Chevy guy but getting into boats I found that the 460 Ford has the most potential to build power with stock components. They are also probably the most expensive engine to build since the market is not flooded with parts like with GM. I dig the uniqueness that comes with having the Ford but with my budget getting tighter the Chevy is looking better every day. There is a lot of good info on Paul Kane's site www.highflowdynamics.com that will enlighten the Chevy guys a bit.

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« **Reply #20 on:** September 24, 2014, 10:15:39 AM »

Quote from: HaulsBalls on September 24, 2014, 08:47:24 AM

Funny you bring this up, GS Marine has a Daytona/TP with one of these being rigged right now. Should be interesting to see what numbers it puts up, I believe it's going to be full race rig.

I'm a Chevy guy but getting into boats I found that the 460 Ford has the most potential to build power with stock components. They are also probably the most expensive engine to build since the market is not flooded with parts like with GM. I dig the uniqueness that comes with having the Ford but with my budget getting tighter the Chevy is looking better every day. There is a lot of good info on Paul Kane's site www.highflowdynamics.com that will enlighten the Chevy guys a bit.

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Just what we need, a bias opinion.

-beerjet-

« **Reply #21 on:** September 24, 2014, 01:46:01 PM »

Quote from: beerjet on September 24, 2014, 10:15:39 AM

Just what we need, a bias opinion.

-beerjet-

I know, it was going so well until I showed up!

Omar I'd like to set up a date with you and that big red ride of yours one day soon. I need to do some research as I'm building mine, let me know if I can climb around and check her out.

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« **Reply #22 on:** September 24, 2014, 02:04:59 PM »

Quote from: HaulsBalls on September 24, 2014, 01:46:01 PM

Quote from: beerjet on September 24, 2014, 10:15:39 AM
Just what we need, a bias opinion.

-beerjet-

I know, it was going so well until I showed up!

Omar I'd like to set up a date with you and that big red ride of yours one day soon. I need to do some research as I'm building mine, let me know if I can climb around and check her out.

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There is always a seat open!

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« **Reply #23 on:** September 25, 2014, 11:45:08 AM »

Aquaholic72
Here is the thing that I have found out so far we both know that we are new to this scene. I'm finding out that chevy is less expensive to build and there are more parts out there. In the ford community ford's put out a lot of hp with little needing to be done to them and the parts that are out there are more expensive due to the demand in boats but that is just what I see from forums and what we both have tried to find but all I know is when my new Ford blows up I'm going with a BBC

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« **Reply #24 on:** September 25, 2014, 11:20:16 PM »

If I did not buy my heads my motor build my Ford would have been around 3100 with ported and polished heads witch you can get them from Paul kane over at high flow he done for about what I paid for mine about 13 to 1500 my motors making 470 horse with 22cc dish pistons and a custom cam, manly push rods guide plates roller rockers runs like an ape I could be happier with this ford. Flat tops of would put me me well into the mid to high 500s.

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