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« **on:** February 04, 2016, 08:37:23 PM »

This story from LOTO reads life a play out of every story of s newbie jet boat enthusiasts trials and tribulations.

Unfortunately, this one ended in a tragic drowning.

Install a valve at your water pipes of the pump people.

Also keep your pressures in check. The block casting/freeze plug popped out, they say likely from frost, but being a jet, thinking the pressure pushed it out.

Those rubber plugs work for the short term, never intended to be permanent.

Not sure if this cat was on here, but rest in peace fellow jet boater.

Dude hit the water and didn't make it.

http://m.lakeexpo.com/news/lake_news/boat-sank-in-lake-of-the-ozarks-because-of-one/article_3e1a8808-cb5f-11e5-ba0e-ebf1c764a9b0.html?mode=jqm

Take care of yourselves guys. And don't boat alone.

GT

« **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2016, 07:32:10 AM »

So sad. How or where could you install a pressure gauge to get a tuning on water pressure?

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« **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2016, 07:43:40 AM »

Hard to see but The white face gage behind the fuel line in a water pressure Gage. I put it on so I can keep track of my pressure considering water pumps usually put out 10-15psi and a just not regulated will do more then triple that

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« **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2016, 07:48:44 AM »

Oh no shit that's mint man! Well just another thing to add to the list.

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« **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2016, 11:17:56 AM »

A pressure gauge is not an all around bad idea.

In theory, there are very few instances where one is necessary.

Of you have a valve between the pump and the engine and you can see your engine have a temperature rise, you should be OK.

Just be aware of what's gong on.

GT

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« **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2016, 12:20:40 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on February 05, 2016, 11:17:56 AM

A pressure gauge is not an all around bad idea.

In theory, there are very few instances where one is necessary.

Of you have a valve between the pump and the engine and you can see your engine have a temperature rise, you should be OK.

Just be aware of what's gong on.

GT

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So just a old fashion ball valve right off the pump say hook it up where my line breaks to run it on the garden hose and get a idea of what your base line is and keep the valve set at a good pressure. Now would this void having a pressure relief valve set up and just run the single water dump? Or would a pressure relief valve be a good back up? The set up I have as of now doesn't have either. Just a single water dump and a basset T-valve for the headers with a ball valve before the T valve to regulate the water for the headers. I don't trust the set up was done right to begin with. I think maybe the last person deleted things or was just lucky.

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« **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2016, 12:50:56 PM »

Quote from: eastcoastboys on February 05, 2016, 12:20:40 PM

So just a old fashion ball valve right off the pump say hook it up where my line breaks to run it on the garden hose and get a idea of what your base line is and keep the valve set at a good pressure. Now would this void having a pressure relief valve set up and just run the single water dump? Or would a pressure relief valve be a good back up? The set up I have as of now doesn't have either. Just a single water dump and a basset T-valve for the headers with a ball valve before the T valve to regulate the water for the headers. I don't trust the set up was done right to begin with. I think maybe the last person deleted things or was just lucky.

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Uh oh you said ball valve. Great debate soon to follow!

Search the site for engine cooling.

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« **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2016, 12:52:14 PM »

Quote from: sevans01 on February 05, 2016, 12:50:56 PM

Uh oh you said ball valve. Great debate soon to follow!

Search the site for engine cooling.

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Hahaha I'll take a look around the forums thanks.

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« **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2016, 01:29:52 PM »

Gate valves have a better adjustability and won't move around without your effort. A gauge can tell you where your pressure is at. Once you put one on you will realize how much water is actually going into your motor. Imo the gauge is a great idea. It will keep you from over pressurizing your motor and causing future problems. Old school guys didn't have them but why not have a safety feature that can prolong the life of your motor.

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« **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2016, 02:13:58 PM »

Quote from: sevans01 on February 05, 2016, 12:50:56 PM

Uh oh you said ball valve. Great debate soon to follow!

Search the site for engine cooling.

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Hahahaha...

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« **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2016, 02:15:17 PM »

Quote from: eastcoastboys on February 05, 2016, 12:20:40 PM

So just a old fashion ball valve right off the pump say hook it up where my line breaks to run it on the garden hose and get a idea of what your base line is and keep the valve set at a good pressure. Now would this void having a pressure relief valve set up and just run the single water dump? Or would a pressure relief valve be a good back up? The set up I have as of now doesn't have either. Just a single water dump and a basset T-valve for the headers with a ball valve before the T valve to regulate the water for the headers. I don't trust the set up was done right to begin with. I think maybe the last person deleted things or was just lucky.

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I am a huge fan of a gate valve and a tie wrap. Cheap and effective.

GT

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« **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2016, 02:40:29 PM »

Gate valve it is.

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« **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2016, 03:59:55 PM »

While I agree that there should be a shut-off valve in every jet boat, I think that there's more for us ALL to learn here.

The scenario that I imagine is that this guy was out by himself for a simple mid-winter joy ride or a shakedown/tuning cruise. He suddenly notices that the boat has gotten sluggish, or maybe the water got high enough inside the boat that its lapping at his seat bottom.

At this point, PANIC sets in. He realizes he has a no-$h!t 5-alarm emergency! (put yourself in his place). At this point, there's so much water in the back of the boat that he couldn't tell where it was coming in from, even if his heart wasn't racing at 180 bpm. It could be from a lost freeze plug or a loose or burst hose, which the shut-off valve would take care of. It could also be a failed intake seal, cracked suction piece, or a hand-hole clean-out that came loose. There are probably other things I haven't thought of, not related to engine cooling, that couldn't be fixed by shutting off a valve. At this point, the chances were probably very slim that he'd be able to logically diagnose the cause and fix it. I don't think I could.

My point is this: There are many things that can quickly go wrong out on the water, and the cold water compounded his risk. The first thing everyone should do in any kind of situation like this is put on their life vests. I think the urge is to "Save The Boat", when we should more concerned with self-preservation and the safety of our friends and family. He still might not have survived due to the cold water, but I think it would have increased his odds.

A very unfortunate event. It made me think about things I should/could do in a similar situation. Is there anything else we can learn from this???

Be safe out there....

« **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2016, 05:27:05 PM »

Quote from: MPKardell on February 05, 2016, 03:59:55 PM

While I agree that there should be a shut-off valve in every jet boat, I think that there's more for us ALL to learn here.

The scenario that I imagine is that this guy was out by himself for a simple mid-winter joy ride or a shakedown/tuning cruise. He suddenly notices that the boat has gotten sluggish, or maybe the water got high enough inside the boat that its lapping at his seat bottom.

At this point, PANIC sets in. He realizes he has a no-$h!t 5-alarm emergency! (put yourself in his place). At this point, there's so much water in the back of the boat that he couldn't tell where it was coming in from, even if his heart wasn't racing at 180 bpm. It could be from a lost freeze plug or a loose or burst hose, which the shut-off valve would take care of. It could also be a failed intake seal, cracked suction piece, or a hand-hole clean-out that came loose. There are probably other things I haven't thought of, not related to engine cooling, that couldn't be fixed by shutting off a valve. At this point, the chances were probably very slim that he'd be able to logically diagnose the cause and fix it. I don't think I could.

My point is this: There are many things that can quickly go wrong out on the water, and the cold water compounded his risk. The first thing everyone should do in any kind of situation like this is put on their life vests. I think the urge is to "Save The Boat", when we should more concerned with self-preservation and the safety of our friends and family. He still might not have survived due to the cold water, but I think it would have increased his odds.

A very unfortunate event. It made me think about things I should/could do in a similar situation. Is there anything else we can learn from this???

Be safe out there....

That is the entire intent of the thread. Just to help make you think a few steps a ahead.
All good points.

The "life jacket was found under the deck" put a lump in my throat.

GT

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« **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2016, 08:40:50 AM »

My first season with my boat was a real learning curve. The one thing that saved me was the large bilge pump and automatic float to actuate it. First thing that happened was I backed away from the dock to fast and swamped the boat, bilge pump kept it from sinking, A few weeks later I lost a hull plug(I buy new ones each season And keep the last seasons for back up now), then I had a freeze plug pop out. Each time I noticed the boat get sluggish and realized the bilge pump was on, it saved my life because it gave me the time to find the problem before it was to late. Most people might find a large bilge pump not pretty but I see them as a beautiful thing.

« **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2016, 10:59:41 AM »

Woah, that is so sad. What a sobering wake up call.

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