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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #225 on: January 08, 2011, 09:57:21 PM »
well today I started cutting out the plate I'll be using on the oil pan, then started cutting out the rear motor mount.


this was seriously the longest jigsaw cut ever. 3/8" 6061 plate


Tomorrow I'm mounting the angle iron into the boat so I can level the motor and start getting the mounts fit in right
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challenger

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #226 on: January 09, 2011, 10:00:29 AM »
Nice work.
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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #227 on: January 12, 2011, 05:50:03 PM »


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Marcsrollin

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #228 on: January 12, 2011, 08:23:02 PM »
That straight bar won't allow for any drive line angle to take up the slack , There is a good chance of a pretty nasty drive line noise. Once you get it set move the motor one or two degrees to the side and one or two degrees either up or down.
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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #229 on: January 12, 2011, 08:24:51 PM »
Yeah I know that already, this is to just get the rail kit and motor plates done.
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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #230 on: January 15, 2011, 08:53:52 AM »
Yesterday I drilled the stringers for my rail kit, stringers are thick and the wood looks brand new... Schiada sure builds them right I must say. 1-3/4" thick stringer boxes. The plan is to have aluminum plugs made to seal the holes in the subfloor. And at the same time getting some slots and decorative machining done on the rails and motor plates


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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #231 on: January 22, 2011, 06:23:43 PM »
Got the rail kit in, now tomorrow it's clean up all the edges and finish smoothing and trimming the front plates

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #232 on: January 23, 2011, 10:19:56 AM »
That straight bar won't allow for any drive line angle to take up the slack , There is a good chance of a pretty nasty drive line noise. Once you get it set move the motor one or two degrees to the side and one or two degrees either up or down.

Actually, just be a pain in the ass. You really want to drop both the front and the rear simultaneously and only about an eighth of an inch on the high side....

If you only raise or lower one side, the "bend" needs to be dead nuts centered in between the two joints, no small feat as far as I am concerned...

What this does for you is makes the movement in each joint identical and will eliminate all potential causes of any harmonics and keeps the joints loaded and lubricated properly.

This is just my opinion and how I was taught, but it has worked on everything I have set up in the last 20 years, even an 800 horse marathon motor at 6500 RPM for 40 minutes at a shot. ;)

Not trying to bust balls, just want to see this awesome project succeed to the fullest, extreme skills as far as I am concerned.... :thumbup: :thumbup:

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #233 on: January 23, 2011, 10:25:45 AM »
The intake is set at 4.9 degrees up and the motor is set at 3.7 I believe. These measurements are taken from when the intake was set with the keel level.
I still have final trimming and setting to do once I get new pto bolts. The bolts that were sent to me are unusable and getting new ones are difficult as it's not a common bolt.
The marine company that machined them said to clean them with a wire wheel, last time I checked wire wheels don't put material back on


Would you trust these to hold your driveline on, let alone thread into the crank to cross thread it or snap off inside it?
« Last Edit: January 23, 2011, 10:32:16 AM by sandeggo »
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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #234 on: January 23, 2011, 11:15:44 AM »
The intake is set at 4.9 degrees up and the motor is set at 3.7 I believe. These measurements are taken from when the intake was set with the keel level.
I still have final trimming and setting to do once I get new pto bolts. The bolts that were sent to me are unusable and getting new ones are difficult as it's not a common bolt.
The marine company that machined them said to clean them with a wire wheel, last time I checked wire wheels don't put material back on


Would you trust these to hold your driveline on, let alone thread into the crank to cross thread it or snap off inside it?

Those are scary  :thumbdown:

On the drive line angle, not trying to beat a dead horse, but it is not just the angle differential you need to be concerned with. the angle differential is all fine and good, but.... :sly:  The angle needs to start at the center of the drive line joints, not at the motor mount or the input of the pump shaft.

I hope that makes sense, you don't want to "bend" the horsepower at the wrong spot in the drive line, it puts undue strain on the entire system including the crankshaft of the engine and the pumps thrust bearing.  :thumbdown:

It is actually fairly simple to figure out, use your killer pilot shaft to figure out where the bend needs to occur as far as where the center of the two joints ends up when installed with 1/4" of "slack" on the splined shaft of the pump, then simply raise or lower the rear mount to gain enough height to allow for you to end up with the angle differential needed by adjusting the front mounts height.......OK maybe it's harder to explain in words than it actually is to do....(I talk with my hands a lot)  :sly:

Anyway, I have somewhere a u-joint/CV joint 101 book around here somewhere, I will try to scare it up for ya.... :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Ray

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #235 on: January 23, 2011, 11:21:51 AM »
Best I can do for right now.... :thumbup:

http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html

Notice in the conventional drive shaft (with one joint at each end) the the angle is on "both joints" not just at one end...This is crucial. 8)

The CV example even has the "bend" at the center of the CV, we could use CV joints on these badboys, but it's overkill, not to mention expensive.... :thumbdown:

Really want you to succeed... ;)

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #236 on: January 23, 2011, 11:56:16 AM »
Glenn I am familiar with setting the u-joints. I've done it alot on trucks when I use to make 4link suspensions in my minitruckin days. I'm just waiting until I get the pto on because then it takes the measurement out of it. Right now everything is rough fit. It'll be right.
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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #237 on: January 23, 2011, 11:57:45 AM »
Glenn I am familiar with setting the u-joints. I've done it alot on trucks when I use to make 4link suspensions in my minitruckin days. I'm just waiting until I get the pto on because then it takes the measurement out of it. Right now everything is rough fit. It'll be right.

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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Ray

sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #238 on: January 29, 2011, 06:03:11 PM »
got some welding done today. last weekend i got the motor plates as done as i can get them without a mill.
boxed the oil pan in and modified the pickup tube. the pan was a deep rear sump. so i whacked the bottom off of it. then slotted the "front" part of the sump. Plated the bottom extending it forward. Boxed it in keeping the outside of the "old" pan in place acts as a baffle. this should give me close to stock capacity. would it have been easier to buy a corvette pan? YES, Do i have the money? NOPE




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Your Mom

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #239 on: January 30, 2011, 07:35:59 AM »
Skills.....looking good.

sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #240 on: January 30, 2011, 10:22:16 PM »


sonofabitch!!! :banghead: :banghead: i just realised that i gotta remake these front plates. the outside angle goes down too far and i cant use the mount blocks they sell at rex.

« Last Edit: January 31, 2011, 05:54:40 PM by sandeggo »
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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #241 on: February 16, 2011, 10:40:06 PM »
Well I had some leftover 1/8" aluminum from when I made my gas tanks last year so I decided to try and make a scoop. Got my pillow blocks from htp, and my ignition and fuel pump. Today I ordered a header kit for a sbf and ls1 flanges along with my remote oil filter kit. Should be a busy weekend.

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Nordie

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #242 on: February 17, 2011, 05:43:28 AM »
Nice! looking good, summers creaping up!
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lbhsbz

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My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #243 on: February 17, 2011, 11:46:31 PM »
Hey Kevin, your floor plugs are done

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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #244 on: February 17, 2011, 11:51:44 PM »
Fuckin eh bro!!
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lbhsbz

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My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #245 on: February 18, 2011, 08:08:04 PM »
Or we could go polished.....


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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #246 on: February 18, 2011, 08:37:37 PM »
Dayaummm polished looks sick, really good, you know you're the first person that I've subbed work out to on this thing. Stoked I did.
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sandeggo

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #247 on: February 18, 2011, 08:48:44 PM »
Well I wasn't happy with the way my scoop was turning out so I made another one today.

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77GT

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #248 on: February 19, 2011, 05:39:19 AM »
I really enjoy seeing what people can make in their home shop.

These parts are what make the boat yours.

Keep up the good work.
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GlassCutter

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Re: My first jet. 69 schiada
« Reply #249 on: February 19, 2011, 08:10:52 AM »
I am soooo jealous of the skills, knowledge, and drive ALL of you guys have.   The fact that you are willing to share these things is even BETTER!   SCJB friggin' rocks!  :thumbup:
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