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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2008, 11:53:58 AM »
Free polished motor plates to any buyer who has a non Chevy motor going in. Buyer must supply a bare block with oil pan so I can make the patterns though. A built engine being used in this capacity will slow down the process but could possibly be done...
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crewchief22

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2008, 12:38:19 PM »
I'd like to compare some pictures to the bottom of my Hondo.  I sure it has never been touched.

You mentioned improved mph, but what does it do for handling?  (not that it really matters, mine isn't fast enough to have a handling problem)  ;D
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2008, 01:11:49 PM »
Ive got the pix but they are on my old computer. If you have pix of yours post em up. I am intimately familiar with the bottom of my boat. Ill try to get the pics up tonight otherwise.

no noticeable change to handling. The mod is done to increase pump loading efficiency at high speeds.


Example:
Take a knife or spatula and hold it vertically under running water, notice how the water runs off in a sheet. Next hold the backside of a spoon under the water vertically, notice how the water follows the shape of the spoon.

The knife example is the delta pad, the spoon example is of the modified entry. Im not saying the delta pad wont work, my boat ran fine without it(before the big power came). The goal was to go as fast as possible with my power though. The spooned entry loads harder than the delta pad does. Perhaps a pump with a delta pad entry could be loaded as hard, but it would have more shoe & loader which would create drag and scrub speed and potentially cause ill handling.

Also, if you dont know who Jeff Bennett is, he is a long time jet racer and happens to be a Rocket Scientist for Boeing as a day job. He knows the Hondo Pantera hull and I trust his word when he tells me to go fast it will require the removal of the delta pad.

As for handling, it handles great. It doesn't have a turn fin so I never got crazy with it, however the hull was used as a circle racer back in the day and did a good job. Most notably the Hurry Round Hondo was of the same design. That boat won lots of races. Its a safe hull.
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2008, 06:32:19 PM »
Damn I WANT this boat! It's just what I want... a nice old style hull, white with clean lines!
Let me see what I can do...meaning I'll be doing my taxes tomorrow!!
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2008, 07:06:13 PM »
Brendellajet,
I don't have any good pics of the bottom at this time, but I'll see what I can do when the rain stops.
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2008, 07:26:48 PM »
Free polished motor plates to any buyer who has a non Chevy motor going in. Buyer must supply a bare block with oil pan so I can make the patterns though. A built engine being used in this capacity will slow down the process but could possibly be done...
I have a ford block and oil pan you can use. Let me know by Sat I am coming up that way to go to Brads.
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2008, 07:55:25 PM »
Thanks, thats nice of you to offer. But Im not gonna make a set of ford mounts until someone gives me the cash. Hopefully someone with a chevy buys it... O0
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2008, 08:08:14 PM »
Here are some misc. pix I have. (Ive got several hundred of the boat in varying stages...)

Impeller-This is aluminum. If someone wants to run big power Id recommend going stainless(I have one for sale). The good thing about the aluminum Jacuzzi is that they are fairly stout. With the extra vein there is more material holding it together, but the fact remains, its aluminum.



Here is the delta pad just in front of the intake starting with the green stuff.


Bottom



Intake & Cav plate recesses, just like Hurry round hondo.


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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2008, 07:50:51 AM »
Well yesterday was almost your day until I had to buy the ole lady a plane ticket for $1200. Her uncle is dying and she had to be there right away, so family first I guess.
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2008, 08:27:49 AM »
So, its almost like winning the lotto but picking the wrong #'s ;D

Sorry to hear about your wifes uncle though. Family comes first. I have a feeling this thing will be around for a little while longer. Phone has been ringing more in the last 2 weeks though. Only a matter of time, I hope...
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2008, 09:10:08 AM »
I bought the ticket yesterday at 11AM took her to the airport this morning at 4. Short notice tickets are a son-bitch.
Any thoughts on hull less the pump? Intake can stay...
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2008, 10:14:14 AM »
I've considered doing it less pump. Id have to take the intake though. Id sell just the boat for 3k.
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2008, 11:35:11 AM »
hmm, without intake would actually be better. When I scrap some spare change back up I'll see if you still have it.
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2008, 11:47:47 AM »
Lemme know. I wont pull the pump/intake without a $500 deposit in hand. might want to think about keeping the jacuzzi though. Its an ass kicker for sure. Setup and ready to run. But if you have another pump then I can understand. I can make room for the pump. Its the boat thats in the way.
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2008, 12:09:36 PM »
Light enough without anything in it... Why don't you hang it from some rafters and keep it?
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2008, 12:37:56 PM »
There is a huge truss in my garage that hangs down about two feet, otherwise thats a great idea.
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2008, 12:54:37 PM »
Free polished motor plates to any buyer who has a non Chevy motor going in. Buyer must supply a bare block with oil pan so I can make the patterns though. A built engine being used in this capacity will slow down the process but could possibly be done...

Hey Brendella how much to have you fab up a set of those? Most likely a SBC.
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2008, 01:04:12 PM »
If its for this boat, its free :)

Otherwise, not really sure. I would do it if someone wanted, but its helpful to have the boat handy, as every rail kit/boat install is different. If someone just wanted the plates drilled for the bolt patterns and they do the final trimming(for shape & placement) I would do it for $100 bucks plus shipping & materials.

My plates cost me about $35 to make, not including my time of course. Im pretty sure I've got access to a SBC block too.
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2008, 02:12:22 PM »
I've got the block, and may have a hull pretty soon. I will keep you posted. Came across a 1 of 3 built tunnel hull. Thinking about it. I would like to pay you whatever you feel is reasonable. $100 sounds a little low considering you will also have time invested, I don't want to low ball you as you would be doing me a favor.
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Brendellajet

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2008, 02:21:24 PM »
Like I said, that would only be for locating the bolt holes & locating pins and drilling to proper sizes. I would leave enough material so you could cut the final shape. Let me know. I can actually give you a great tip for making them. Without the boat in my garage you'd end up with a lot of work to do to them, be better to make them your self.

As long as you have a jig saw and a drill motor you can make them. There will be a couple more little things to buy, but it can be done on a budget.

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2008, 02:43:42 PM »
its not hard to do, just time consuming. and the material is $$$$$$$
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2008, 02:57:30 PM »
If you are local, go to Schorr Metals in Placentia, near the corner of Kraemer & Orangethorpe.

They have a nice "drop" section. Pick a clean piece and sand the scratches out. Takes a little longer, but it is much cheaper.
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2008, 03:06:00 PM »
i think the material was 190.00 for 6061, thats for both plates

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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2008, 03:16:23 PM »
Damn, you got killed on the pricing...My plates came from a piece of 2x2 6061 and I paid no more than 35.
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Re: 1977 Brendella(Hondo Pantera bottom) for Sale less motor
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2008, 03:32:32 PM »
yeah i know :-\
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