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« **Reply #25 on:** June 10, 2016, 05:59:04 AM »

I know when we put the new engine together we accidentally put the distributor 180 out, lots of popping out the carb with white smoke.
Also had a vacuum leak. After fixing that stuff she ran.

« **Reply #26 on:** June 10, 2016, 07:45:31 AM »

Quote from: KoryFreck114 on June 09, 2016, 10:57:10 PM

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I changed dizzys for cosmetic purposes

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And never choose form over function.

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« **Reply #27 on:** June 10, 2016, 07:57:32 AM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 10, 2016, 07:45:31 AM

And never choose form over function.

GT

No doubt. My pops always said if it aint broke dont get cute and make changes.

« **Reply #28 on:** June 10, 2016, 12:03:28 PM »

Make sure your distributor is not 180 out. Did the same on mine, pull it, set TDC and Re stab.

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« **Reply #29 on:** June 10, 2016, 05:36:58 PM »

Gotta have spark first. If not, it's not wired right.

« **Reply #30 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:44:49 PM »

Hey guys there is spark coming from both magnetic distributors both work ok ran all of the tests i could think of. Checking also the magnetic pick up from the msd box. Everything is checking out fine. I have it on the number one spark plug and have checked all continuity from the cap to the end of the spark plug.. All is checks fine. Both distributors are not working. Even changed out the coil. I have set it 12 ntdc and tdc.

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« **Reply #31 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:46:04 PM »

180 out would imply i would be on the exhaust stroke correct?

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« **Reply #32 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:47:54 PM »

Quote from: Blue2184 on June 10, 2016, 04:45:05 AM

Does he know that ford firing order and say Chevy firing order is not the same? Just checking... Someone that has never played with a ford that can throw them off lol

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Yes i know the difference haha

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« **Reply #33 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:48:56 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 10, 2016, 07:45:31 AM

And never choose form over function.

GT

They both now how ever are working correctly

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« **Reply #34 on:** June 10, 2016, 09:50:05 PM »

Quote from: KoryFreck114 on June 10, 2016, 06:46:04 PM

180 out would imply i would be on the exhaust stroke correct?

Proud American.

yes, 180* out would mean that it is trying to fire on the exhaust stroke instead of compression.

1 more thing to check is make sure your firing order is in the correct direction it could be all right but going in the wrong direction.

Is it backfiring out of the carb at all?

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« **Reply #35 on:** June 11, 2016, 01:52:59 AM »

Short builders tip-

When the timing chain 'dots' are lined up, the engine will be firing on the cylinder that is 180* from #1. (#6 on a BBF, BBC, SBC)

After the motor is buttoned up, turn the crank 1 full turn before dropping the dizzy in.

Dan'l

« **Reply #36 on:** June 11, 2016, 06:55:25 AM »

Where do you live? Maybe someone is close and could stop by and help

« **Reply #37 on:** June 11, 2016, 11:33:37 AM »

Quote from: koby686 on June 10, 2016, 09:50:05 PM

yes, 180* out would mean that it is trying to fire on the exhaust stroke instead of compression.

1 more thing to check is make sure your firing order is in the correct direction it could be all right but going in the wrong direction.

Is it backfiring out of the carb at all?

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Its going the correct way. I going to pull off the timing chain cover and check out the gears and chain. Some thing one timing has to be off or a stuck valve? Idk

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« **Reply #38 on:** June 11, 2016, 11:34:03 AM »

Quote from: Onthenos on June 11, 2016, 06:55:25 AM

Where do you live? Maybe someone is close and could stop by and help

Im in yorba linda ca

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« **Reply #39 on:** June 11, 2016, 11:35:23 AM »

Quote from: mash on it on June 11, 2016, 01:52:59 AM

Short builders tip-

When the timing chain 'dots' are lined up, the engine will be firing on the cylinder that is 180* from #1. (#6 on a BBF, BBC, SBC)

After the motor is buttoned up, turn the crank 1 full turn before dropping the dizzy in.

Dan'l

Ya dude im going to try this.. Ill let you know the results.

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« **Reply #40 on:** June 11, 2016, 12:12:42 PM »

Quote from: KoryFreck114 on June 11, 2016, 11:35:23 AM

Ya dude im going to try this.. Ill let you know the results.

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So if I'm reading this right, it ran up until you replaced the distributor?

« **Reply #41 on:** June 11, 2016, 12:23:18 PM »

Ok who's in Yorba linda that can cruise by and help ? 2 heads are better than one. I personally suggest setting #1 piston TDC, assure mark is lined up on balancer @ zero and pull dizzy cap and see if the rotor is pointing at the #1 hoke on the cap. If you've done this exactly you should know what direction to go to correct.

« **Reply #42 on:** June 12, 2016, 08:29:39 AM »

A quick check of the firing order on the cap?
Counter clockwise from number 1: 15426378

« **Reply #43 on:** June 12, 2016, 02:25:50 PM »

So everything in the timing category seems to be okay.. Unless you guys see something im overlooking. Fuel pressure is at 6 to 7 psi and i have spark at the plug. But i doesnt look strong. Thinking it might be the msd box.

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« **Reply #44 on:** June 12, 2016, 02:26:17 PM »

Quote from: Boatwidow on June 12, 2016, 08:29:39 AM

A quick check of the firing order on the cap?
Counter clockwise from number 1: 15426378

Check out the photos

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« **Reply #45 on:** June 12, 2016, 02:31:33 PM »

So bypass the msd.

« **Reply #46 on:** June 12, 2016, 02:34:22 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 12, 2016, 02:31:33 PM

So bypass the msd.

How do you do that with a magnetic distributor?

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« **Reply #47 on:** June 12, 2016, 02:44:30 PM »

Quote from: KoryFreck114 on June 12, 2016, 02:34:22 PM

How do you do that with a magnetic distributor?

Proud American.

Trigger wire from distributor straight to the negative dose of the coil, 12v to the positive side of the coil, disconnect the box and hit the key.

GT

« **Reply #48 on:** June 12, 2016, 05:00:21 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 12, 2016, 02:44:30 PM

Trigger wire from distributor straight to the negative dose of the coil, 12v to the positive side of the coil, disconnect the box and hit the key.

GT

This will trigger the magnetic pick-up? Im sorry im slightly confused.

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« **Reply #49 on:** June 12, 2016, 05:07:53 PM »

Quote from: KoryFreck114 on June 12, 2016, 05:00:21 PM

This will trigger the magnetic pick-up? Im sorry im slightly confused.

Proud American.

You don't need a cd box to run a conventional ignition system.

The box just modifies the signal to coil. It doesn't "create" anything. So if you remove the wires from the box, why wouldn't it work?

GT

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