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Bradbury831

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Clogged water jackets.
« on: May 22, 2018, 11:59:01 AM »
Hi Guys,
  First off I will give a little boat info. 1974 Hornet. Mild built chevy 427 BB with logs and snails hooked up to a berkley 12jg. Just had the boat out at the green drink a couple weeks ago without any issues. So this past weekend I took my boat out to parker for some weekend fun and on my first run the boat started to over heat. Pulled her over to the beach and started troubleshooting. First thing I did was check my gate valve which was open and still set at my sweet spot from my previous trips. After doing some test I found the water was coming into the logs and then to the front of the motor inlets but not coming out the tstat ports and out to the exhaust. My understanding is the water jackets through the motor must have corrosion or sand build up after doing some research on here? Im looking to see if there is any solutions to clearing it out without having to pull the motor disassemble it and have it hot tanked. Has anyone used rydelme marine or any type of flush kit with success?   
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MillerKiller510

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2018, 02:03:13 PM »
Pop the freeze plugs out first and flush with hose you should be able to get to them with out taking any thing a part thays were I would start

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2018, 07:53:40 PM »
Keep it simple first. Did you pull the t-stat housing yet? Are you running a t-stat?
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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2018, 07:31:12 AM »
Pop the freeze plugs out first and flush with hose you should be able to get to them with out taking any thing a part thays were I would start

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I will do that. I read you can use a clothes hanger or small barrel brush to loosen alot up through there and then try to flush the motor.
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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2018, 07:32:16 AM »
Keep it simple first. Did you pull the t-stat housing yet? Are you running a t-stat?

Yes I pulled the housing. No water inside at all and no tstat.
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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2018, 10:05:17 AM »
I took your guys advise and disassembled some of the motor this weekend and then pulled the freeze plugs. Motor was full of course river sand with small rocks. Took several hours to get it all out and then ran rydlyme marine through the motor to help clear out any rust and corrosion. Runs great and stays cool now. What do you guys recommend to help keep this from happening again?
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bobjthomson

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2018, 10:40:10 AM »
U could run a sea strainer with fine mesh , or put on drain taps on the block and flush with hose .


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MillerKiller510

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2018, 03:47:52 PM »
Right bye the freezer plug there should be a plug put a drain tape it there and drain and flush after you take it out

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2018, 08:51:58 PM »
Right bye the freezer plug there should be a plug put a drain tape it there and drain and flush after you take it out

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This. I'm not sure about BBC, but my Olds has a pipe plug on each side.
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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2018, 08:43:16 AM »
Great im going to add the drain that way I can flush it after river trips. Does anyone flush with distilled or de-ionized water to keep rust and corrosion down?
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bobjthomson

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2018, 11:35:20 AM »
U could but getting it in would be a pain in the ass , all blocks will rust if u don’t have antifreeze, just drain and leave the drains open and call it good . If storing in cold climate then pull the thermostat housing off and pore antifreeze in and ur good .


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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2018, 01:44:51 PM »
Thanks for all the reply's and info guys. Trying to gather as much knowledge as possible to keep my boat running for many seasons to come.
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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2018, 07:13:37 PM »
Anytime brother


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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2018, 09:30:00 AM »
Alright so I took the boat out yesterday to the green drink and I have a couple more questions. First, I now have to run the gate valve all the way open to keep the motor at 165* and it preformed great. Should the valve need to be all the way open to keep a mild built bbc cool? I also noticed a lot of water getting out the jet right where I installed the new place diverted nozzle. Could that cause any issue with the motor getting water from the jet? Last question , even with the motor running at 165* and verified while running that water was coming out the exhaust , when I stop and shut it off you can hear water boiling and some weird sounds coming from the logs and snails. What could be causing that noise?


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mash on it

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 12:21:49 PM »
IMHO, 165° is too warm for the conditions. With the lake temp at 65° ish, the temp should be ~130-140°. My 454, logs and snails, wouldn't register on the gauge if the valve was wide open.

Could the logs have sand/blockage also?

By the way,  you can nearly keep your hand on the tstat housing at 140°.
At 180°, about 2 seconds.

I'd say keep looking.

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bobjthomson

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2018, 02:30:15 PM »
The noise that ur hearing is water boiling off , not a good thing , pull the logs off and hit them with a soft mallet to knock out the sand , pull ur thermostat out and get a new one and drill 4 holes in it , pop the freeze plugs out and use a air hose to blow them out , jet boats love to suck up sand lol 


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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2018, 02:32:30 PM »
Thermostat


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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2018, 07:58:19 AM »
Mash on it - I agree that it is running to warm for the cool lake water and wide open valve. I took both exit lines off the t stat housing and started it and water came out full blast so im sure the motor dosnt have blockage any longer. I never even thought about the logs being clogged. Im going to pull them off this week.

Bobjthomson - The boat dosnt have a t stat. Its open loop and my only control is one gate valve right where the water line comes off the jet. I never even thought about the logs being clogged. Should I take them apart and try to clean or will the rubber mallet and rinsing with a hose do the job?
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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2018, 10:45:40 AM »
I have Hardin marine logs an snails and I too them off and some sand came out , so I took the rubber mallet and tapped all over them then blew them out with air then I used a hose , couldn’t believe how much sand came out lol it looked like I was panning for gold lol


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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2018, 10:46:39 AM »
I have Hardin marine logs an snails and I too them off and some sand came out , so I took the rubber mallet and tapped all over them then blew them out with air then I used a hose , couldn’t believe how much sand came out lol it looked like I was panning for gold lol


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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2018, 01:49:12 PM »
I have Hardin marine logs an snails and I too them off and some sand came out , so I took the rubber mallet and tapped all over them then blew them out with air then I used a hose , couldn’t believe how much sand came out lol it looked like I was panning for gold lol


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Awesome thats what I will do. I took the inlet block off plates, t stat housing and freeze plugs out and cleaned the inside of my motor with a piece of wire , air compressor and water hose and could not believe the amount of sand and pebbles that came out. Would make sense the logs would be just as clogged. Thanks again for all the help.
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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2018, 02:29:46 PM »
Lol , it’s amazing how much crap gets in there lol


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Bradbury831

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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2018, 08:35:18 AM »
I pulled the exhaust last night and gave it the ol rubber mallet , water hose and compressed air treatment. Decent amount of sand and some little rocks came out but didnt seam like enough to cause a problem so I kept digging around and found that my water inlet line coming off the jet to T fitting and then the logs was pinched under the motor between the pan and a bolt. Got that freed up and it flows much better now. Water test this weekend to see if its fixed.
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Re: Clogged water jackets.
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2018, 09:26:08 AM »
Sweet bro , now that u have gone through it all should be cool lol


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