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78 PROPDUSTER

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Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« on: June 02, 2008, 04:48:47 PM »
I have found kits but none of the valves have have threaded ends on the hose side, anyone know who sells them?

Thanks
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VAMI

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 08:39:02 PM »
I think moroso sells the whole kit.
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 09:04:27 PM »
summit and mr gasket both also make a kit.....but they are all for push on hose.

i did some light searching and couldnt find anything either...ill look some more.

i am interested as well because i want to replace my black rubber hose with some stainless braided stuff just to clean it up.
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 09:33:11 AM »
Not a thread jack, just a question.  Will this type of system work with wet headers or will it cause milkshake oil ?  I hate that oily film around the breathers after a hard run.
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 09:52:26 AM »
good question....i dont know  ???
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76NORDIC

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 10:30:46 AM »
Hey ya know what I use around the breathers? Cheap, and disposable too. I snake a couple of my daughters hair scrunchies, they being elastic they hold aroung the breather neck and the material soaks up the oil. After a couple of trips throw em away, and get a couple more ;D   Mark
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 10:43:54 AM »
Hey ya know what I use around the breathers? Cheap, and disposable too. I snake a couple of my daughters hair scrunchies, they being elastic they hold aroung the breather neck and the material soaks up the oil. After a couple of trips throw em away, and get a couple more ;D   Mark

That is the best idea I have herd yet!! :o
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slow67

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 11:30:30 AM »
Ima cheap bastard. I went to Home depot, and got a piece of non galvanized pipe, ground it down to the right size. I had also just removed the AIR injection off of my 2000 Camaro, so there are your check valves. All I needed at that point were the valve cover breathers.

Unless your check-valve blows, it will only allow air out, it won't draw any in.
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 12:04:19 PM »
Looks like a puke tank should take care of it. Oh and a puke tank is not something you lean over and hurl after a long night of drinking.

 Here is one I made. I welded baffles in it as well so when the oil/vapors come into the side of the tank they "hit" the wall and the oil vapor droplets fall out. My RPM's are right at 6000 RPMS and I have not had one drop of oil spray out of anywhere.
T.J.


Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 12:07:03 PM »
Hey ya know what I use around the breathers? Cheap, and disposable too. I snake a couple of my daughters hair scrunchies, they being elastic they hold aroung the breather neck and the material soaks up the oil. After a couple of trips throw em away, and get a couple more ;D   Mark

pink ones, right?
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2008, 12:08:00 PM »
Damn, i need a puke tank...

2sav ::)
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2008, 01:15:59 PM »
TJ you have way too much time and talent on your hands.










Could you send some my way???
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2008, 06:06:33 PM »
I have one more catalog to flip through after I eat dinner, but I have seen literally hundres of pictures of emissions check valves and they all have 5/8" or 3/4" hose connections (suprised me), my dad was an auto parts sore owner operator for 30+ years, if he can't figure it out, it can't be done.

If it were me I would just cut the end off them and braze a steel nipple in them and away you go.(they cost $10 so even if you jack it up it won't break you)

Better still, braze in a 1/2 inch nat. gas line adapter which is flare to pipe, and use an AN fitting (AN6 I think) to connect it. BTW the threads are the same but the angle of the flare is slightly different in degrees of angle, but its low eough pressure that a little Permatex #1 will do nicely  8)

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2008, 06:09:55 PM »
i have seen it done before....just gotta look to see how its done next time i see it.
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2008, 06:12:24 PM »
Here is a link to the Banderlog manualhttp://www.banderlog.com/products/waterInjectionValve/waterInjectionValveManual.pdf

These things work pretty good, but I do not have one :'(

I have installed them on all my rich friends boats. :banghead:
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2008, 06:13:40 PM »
Sorry, wrong :screwy: thread
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

76NORDIC

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2008, 06:22:50 PM »
PINK!!! :screwy: :screwy:   Oh Hell no, I have a 13 year old daughter goin on 21   ;D She wont be seen in pink, its all the dark colors these days :banghead:  One mistake I did tho was I came across a couple of the missus scrunchies that were bigger and thot hell these will last even longer   >:D    MISTAKE :o  She saw that on there and what I was using them for, and the fact I was throwing them away after, hell youd of thot I was using something fancy of hers.  Oh well thats what I get for thinkin ;D
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78 PROPDUSTER

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2008, 09:59:28 PM »
Thanks for the interest, I have read that PCV valves from a Volvo were used but can't find info. on those either.  What about a compression fitting to pipe thread as an adapter?
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2008, 10:28:55 PM »
you mean compression to the valve? maybe a little bulky but might work.
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Ray

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2008, 10:31:07 PM »
May have found a valve threaded on both sides, but need to check, I think this sucker is metric :mad:
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2008, 03:00:47 PM »
Im running a morroso vacume pump. pricey but eliminates all blow by and inshures proper ring seal.
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2008, 08:02:32 PM »
There literally no "double ended" gulp valves in the catalog, start brazing, if you need any info I can step by step it for you, shouldn't be too tough. 8)
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Ray

stc315

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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2008, 12:34:01 PM »
Damn, i need a puke tank...

2sav ::)
x2 I'm running those k&n style breathers, man what a mess they make. I think I might try the scrunchie idea with some conventional breathers till I can do the puke tank.
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2008, 01:22:08 PM »
check with tom over at jbp, that is where i got mine, good price and looks nice ;D
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Re: Crankcase ventilation through headers.
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2008, 03:23:57 PM »
this may sound like a stupid question, but couldnt you just route the breather tube back into the intake manifold like they do on a normal car setup or will it kill power?
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